MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: oo1005 on May 03, 2014, 06:34:21 pm
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Found out my ECU can be repaired so with the saved money I'm going to get stage 1 and thinking about an intake.. I don't want to spend a fortune but I'm more interested in performance without noise - I don't really want the usual associated induction roar.. Wastegate chatter etc however would be nice ;)
So - with that in mind it rules out the usual CAI and leaves me with the likes of the Carbonio/Carbonspeed - are they worth it or should I just swap out the filter?
Cheers!
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Either buy an ITG, Evoms, Revo or Twintake, or save your money
No point doing a half step.
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^^agree with Jay
Carbonio is engine bay bling and does nothing but look nice, I had one ages ago on my GTI before I went stage1
Personally wouldn't bother with the twintake as there's a lot of information about bad airflow regarding the filters compared to the other intakes available
Think the evoms is the cheapest but performs well
Then the ITG slightly better but bigger open filter so noisier
Lastly revo which is considered by many as the top dog at the moment, currently running this on my S3 and am very impressed, had an ITG on the GTI but hard to compare as the bhp is very different between the two cars, it's slightly quieter than my ITG was but can still get some nice chatter :evilgrin:
Dave
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Or make a hybrid like mine! Forge twintake with the restrictive filters removed and itgs in replacement now that's awesome!
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Or make a hybrid like mine! Forge twintake with the restrictive filters removed and itgs in replacement now that's awesome!
pic?
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Or make a hybrid like mine! Forge twintake with the restrictive filters removed and itgs in replacement now that's awesome!
pic?
Page 409 on what did you do to your mkv today :happy2:
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Waste if money doing it in half mate..
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Or make a hybrid like mine! Forge twintake with the restrictive filters removed and itgs in replacement now that's awesome!
pic?
Page 409 on what did you do to your mkv today :happy2:
Do you have a link to the filters? Retail price? What diameter are the piping ends?
Cheers Fredrik
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Or make a hybrid like mine! Forge twintake with the restrictive filters removed and itgs in replacement now that's awesome!
pic?
Page 409 on what did you do to your mkv today :happy2:
Looks MINT lol
But I will just be going for the revo one
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If you're going to stage 1 you simply don't need a CAI for the map/hardware to work properly (you may even lose low end torque which is a big plus with stage 1) particularly if you're more interested in performance without noise as you say. Stage 2/2+ starts to make use of the intake but some stay with OE intake though even at this tuning level.
Keep the spare cash in case your tuner finds something that needs fixing highlighted by mapping. In some cases even a stage 1 car can benefit from a fuel pump upgrade. Some pumps are fine, others seem to struggle. OE manufacturing tolerances probably quite wide. Also paves the way for more tuning.
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Get an intake I made 252 bhp standard with evoms
And I'm now on stage 1 + a car needs air especially with forced induction, I had it fitted on stage 1 initially and never noticed any low end torque missing but I tend to drive in the upper rpm :driver:
I fitted a hpfp before I was on stage 1+ and still on stage 1 it made no difference as I was meeting required it will make a difrence if you have revo ect and can tweak settings
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I would say an intake is more important for stage 1 than a HPFP...... especially for the money / mechanical issues.
Fitting the EVOMs I have noticed no drop in low end torque. And besides that it's a turbocharged petrol they are not designed to be driven like diesels.
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Thanks for the info guys. Will have a think n
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From all of this...find a tuner you trust and ask their opinion and see where you go with it.
Not sure where you are in the country but I'm in Portsmouth so I gave my car to JKM to sort out. My suggestions are just some of the things that were carefully explained to me while I was trying to find a way from stage 1 to 2/2+ economically. I learnt that there are many co-dependencies when considering introducing certain pieces of hardware and it transpired that there wasn't a cheap way to do it so proposals were made based on their expertise & experience to do the best thing by the car.
Just to reiterate, a fuel pump is not essential for stage 1 and most tuners wouldn't tell you need it. I was trying to point out that sometimes they can struggle but probably most are fine.
Not clear on what mechanical issues an intake addresses so can't comment on that.
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As said ITG Maxogen, Evoms, Revo or Forge Twintake. :happy2:
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Or make a hybrid like mine! Forge twintake with the restrictive filters removed and itgs in replacement now that's awesome!
pic?
Page 409 on what did you do to your mkv today :happy2:
There from cam skill mate a itg retailer a friend of mine works there cheapest place you'll find them tbf, after many logs people don't see how restrictive the forge filters really are I took mine out the canisters and actually cut them up to bench test them. The itgs are 78mm and the noise is insane. The forge piping is slightly bigger than the itg kit so with the right filters was a bit of a test but the flow rate after I had fitted them and coupled up with a cold feed was insane. Needed mapping after them that's how much breathing they were doing. Wicked result and look insane too.
Do you have a link to the filters? Retail price? What diameter are the piping ends?
Cheers Fredrik
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I'm in Jersey so tuning options are very limited :(
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In my S3 I originally had the ITG intake. I got the opportunity to try the Revo intake when it came out and the difference in air flow was surprising! My S3 drew in 9g/s more air than the ITG which equated to roughly 11.5bhp
Once I installed the intake, I then installed Revo's throttle pipe and eventually their FMIC - the cars performance was fantastic :) well recommended!