MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: snapey on October 17, 2009, 12:56:37 pm
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Have a read at what it says about the cupra r in this article.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Seat-Leon-2.0-TSI-265-Cupra-R/244162/ (http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Seat-Leon-2.0-TSI-265-Cupra-R/244162/)
I don't know any facts but I'm guessing it's a possible upgrade if it's the case as appose to apr etc.
Luke
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Have a read at what it says about the cupra r in this article.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Seat-Leon-2.0-TSI-265-Cupra-R/244162/ (http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Seat-Leon-2.0-TSI-265-Cupra-R/244162/)
I don't know any facts but I'm guessing it's a possible upgrade if it's the case as appose to apr etc.
Luke
us scn boys are already on it. Need to wait for a cupra r to hit the showroom so we can pull a vin number or part number off the pump to see if it is any different from the one fitted to the normal cupra, and then also need to get it flow tested to see what t is capable of.
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Is that not just the s3 engine fitted to that???
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I'd have thought that by the sounds of the uprated parts..... possibly the same one that their throwing in the golf r?
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snapey,
Your correct mate, same engine as the new Golf and Scirroco R are getting, if this pump turns out to be different over the one we have as standard, I am going to get it instead of the APR etc.
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Really interested in this so keep us updated :happy2:
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snapey,
Your correct mate, same engine as the new Golf and Scirroco R are getting, if this pump turns out to be different over the one we have as standard, I am going to get it instead of the APR etc.
get in line :) we are all on it :P
APR = £650 +
OEM should be like £150-200
no brainer :) cant wait
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How many $millions did they reckon they invested in that fuel pump test rig of theirs??
They'll be pretty p***ed if you can go and get the same thing off the shelf from VW for a fraction. Oops!
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defo keep my eyes on this one !
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defo keep my eyes on this one !
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i posted this over at the vortex lets see what APR and the yanks have to say about this
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4612578
can people back me up in my thread .. they are all stupid !!
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I wonder if the VAG group have addressed the issue of increased wear on the cam follower with there version of the uprated HPFP. This seems to be a problem on all the other uprated pumps.
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IIRC the new engines have a new HPFP that uses a roller type follower insead of the bucket to address the wear issue, this could be the differences they are talking about. The HPFP in the current S3 flows enough for 260 odd bhp so why would an uprated higher flowing pump be needed for the 261bhp Cupra? :smiley:
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IIRC the new engines have a new HPFP that uses a roller type follower insead of the bucket to address the wear issue, this could be the differences they are talking about. The HPFP in the current S3 flows enough for 260 odd bhp so why would an uprated higher flowing pump be needed for the 261bhp Cupra? :smiley:
Exactly my thinking, but hope I stand to be corrected :happy2:
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IIRC the new engines have a new HPFP that uses a roller type follower insead of the bucket to address the wear issue, this could be the differences they are talking about. The HPFP in the current S3 flows enough for 260 odd bhp so why would an uprated higher flowing pump be needed for the 261bhp Cupra? :smiley:
Exactly my thinking, but hope I stand to be corrected :happy2:
read my thread on vortex
arin from APR just said
VAG has not created a roller follower style high pressure fuel pump for this engine.
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Just read your thread on vwvortex CupraK1, made me chuckle. You do have to laugh at these things, lets see what happens.
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IIRC the new engines have a new HPFP that uses a roller type follower insead of the bucket to address the wear issue, this could be the differences they are talking about. The HPFP in the current S3 flows enough for 260 odd bhp so why would an uprated higher flowing pump be needed for the 261bhp Cupra? :smiley:
I have a sneaky suspicion VAG/SEAT are underrating the cupra r and it really has a few more bhp than that. We will soon find out though as it wont take long for one to end up on the rollers
Wayne you should post the press release where it says the cupra r will feature a UPGRADED fuel pump instead of new. Arin from APR might think when the say new they mean the revision k pump.
VAG is fully aware of the fact that the standard pump has trouble keeping up, so I wouldnt be surprised if they did rectify that.
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Ha ha, 'Tex forum gold - takes all of about 5 minutes for handbags to start being waved and horses**t statements such as "VAG has not created a roller follower style high pressure fuel pump for this engine"... defensive FTW.
Fairs doos, VAG might not have made one - but how in the hell would they know??
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IIRC the new engines have a new HPFP that uses a roller type follower insead of the bucket to address the wear issue, this could be the differences they are talking about. The HPFP in the current S3 flows enough for 260 odd bhp so why would an uprated higher flowing pump be needed for the 261bhp Cupra? :smiley:
I have a sneaky suspicion VAG/SEAT are underrating the cupra r and it really has a few more bhp than that. We will soon find out though as it wont take long for one to end up on the rollers
Wayne you should post the press release where it says the cupra r will feature a UPGRADED fuel pump instead of new. Arin from APR might think when the say new they mean the revision k pump.
VAG is fully aware of the fact that the standard pump has trouble keeping up, so I wouldnt be surprised if they did rectify that.
send me it and ill PM him an "in your face" message
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I'd have thought that by the sounds of the uprated parts..... possibly the same one that their throwing in the golf r?
Which is the S3 engine! :booty:
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no one has really helped me in my vwvortex thread :( im a loner hahaha
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no one has really helped me in my vwvortex thread :( im a loner hahaha
I can't be ar$ed with Vortex - hence my exceedingly low post count over there!
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how could possible good news be met with so much hate and resentment?
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no one has really helped me in my vwvortex thread :( im a loner hahaha
I would think you're on to a non starter as It's rumoured to be the TFSi engine ala' S3.
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no one has really helped me in my vwvortex thread :( im a loner hahaha
I would think you're on to a non starter as It's rumoured to be the TFSi engine ala' S3.
it will be a tfsi engine, that we know for sure. We dont know however if it has got a upgraded pump. :happy2:
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Any more info on this?