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Title: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: monte on October 19, 2009, 12:06:47 am
Well I have come to love these sprays, as I find they really do a great job in between washes. They are so quick and easy to use if your car is well waxed. Its no chore at all, and I find myself giving the car a once-over, more and more often. I am sure the neighbors think I have OCD.  :jumping:
I have been using Megs Ultimate Quick Detailer Spray and the results have been great. (and it smells lurvley)  :wink:

I was going to try the Dodo Juice Red Mist next, but I have just seen this  Mega Huge Bargain Bottle of Megs Last Touch Detailer on eBay, and well, it looks a real ....bargain! Its nearly 4lts and can be diluted 1:1 so you will get double for £19. :jumpmove:

What do you guy's use? Anyone use this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Meguiars-Last-Touch-Spray-Detailer-Drying-Aid_W0QQitemZ180314754632QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item29fb98ce48

Any other Recommendations? Its a good price :happy2:
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: Greeners on October 19, 2009, 09:25:49 am
Not a fan of the red mist at all as it's hard work for a QD! You may be ok with a silver car but you have to ensure you remove any excess as dust/salt etc will stick to it! I ended up with a car covered in salt earlier in the year after using this stuff the day before.

If you like stuff that smells good try the Chemical Guys pink QD, smells like strawberry milshake, is easy to work with and gives superb results!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: JPC on October 19, 2009, 09:48:05 am
i use Last touch Monte, its a good value buy and can be diluted really well.
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: monte on October 19, 2009, 11:16:29 am
Not a fan of the red mist at all as it's hard work for a QD! You may be ok with a silver car but you have to ensure you remove any excess as dust/salt etc will stick to it! I ended up with a car covered in salt earlier in the year after using this stuff the day before.

If you like stuff that smells good try the Chemical Guys pink QD, smells like strawberry milshake, is easy to work with and gives superb results!  :happy2:


mmmmm strawberry milkshake  :drool: I am gonna have to try this too now!


i use Last touch Monte, its a good value buy and can be diluted really well.


Great stuff! I will definitely try this Last touch stuff. If you use it JPC, it must be good  :happy2:  (nice to meet you and the others last sat mate).
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: VC on October 19, 2009, 11:51:28 am
ive never use QD's before

so is this something you use between washes without water?  :confused:
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: john_o on October 19, 2009, 12:18:06 pm
I use the Megs Ultimate Quick Detailer Spray too  :happy2: , works great , just wash car and QD spray  :notworthy:

@ Jay , should I use something else??
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: monte on October 19, 2009, 12:19:05 pm
ive never use QD's before

so is this something you use between washes without water?  :confused:

Yes mate, I am finding that 5-10 mins every 2 days with the quick detailer spray and my car is always sparkly clean :happy2: Its really easy too. Spray on (doing a panel at a time) wipe off with clean micro-fibre then buff with another clean micro-fibre, then on to next panel. If your car is waxed, it is so easy.

Hardly ever wash my car now  :smiley:
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: Greeners on October 19, 2009, 12:34:43 pm
ive never use QD's before

so is this something you use between washes without water?  :confused:

I would always wash my car first, maybe not as important with a white/silver.

It's a good top up to the wax that is already there rather than a product to clean!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: RedRobin on October 19, 2009, 01:38:11 pm
....

I use Megs Ultimate Quick Detailer but only to 'touch up' local bird poo or stains. Otherwise I handwash the whole car - Easier since applying 3 coats of Zaino.
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: JPC on October 19, 2009, 02:02:21 pm
Not a fan of the red mist at all as it's hard work for a QD! You may be ok with a silver car but you have to ensure you remove any excess as dust/salt etc will stick to it! I ended up with a car covered in salt earlier in the year after using this stuff the day before.

If you like stuff that smells good try the Chemical Guys pink QD, smells like strawberry milshake, is easy to work with and gives superb results!  :happy2:


mmmmm strawberry milkshake  :drool: I am gonna have to try this too now!


i use Last touch Monte, its a good value buy and can be diluted really well.


Great stuff! I will definitely try this Last touch stuff. If you use it JPC, it must be good  :happy2:  (nice to meet you and the others last sat mate).


no worries mate, was nice to meet you too.
ive never use QD's before

so is this something you use between washes without water?  :confused:

No No No. Dont use it as a substitute to washing. I mainly use it for lubrication for claying. But it can be used to remove water marks on a freshly washed car. It has a multitude of uses for someone like me. i would typically use about a bottles worth when doing a full correction on a customers car.

Some like to QD their car whilst still wet (after washing and not wiping) then rinse the car down as this helps with water sheeting off the car.

Some also like to spray and wipe with their QD.

I use the Megs Ultimate Quick Detailer Spray too  :happy2: , works great , just wash car and QD spray  :notworthy:

@ Jay , should I use something else??


Do you wash, dry spray and wipe?

i have used some ultimate detailer after Megs sent me some free.

It does seem quite rich. I doubt whether or not it will have a detrimental effect of the sealant so if you happy to spend on it, why not! ;)

ive never use QD's before

so is this something you use between washes without water?  :confused:

I would always wash my car first, maybe not as important with a white/silver.

It's a good top up to the wax that is already there rather than a product to clean!  :happy2:

I know what you mean Nath when you say "topping up wax" A QD will make a finish feel softer etc

Topping up wax is a whole different ball game when it comes to sprays.

As a rule of thumb...a QD will do little to add to a protection of a car.

Some people use products that are aimed to be a spray on sealant as QD. This isnt the best thing to be doing. Some sealants contain solvents to flatten out the sealant and create an even finish, but these can affect the underlying wax/sealant coating.

Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: Greeners on October 19, 2009, 03:50:31 pm
I know where your coming from Jay, but after using the QD I use the car does give off a better shine and beads far better.  :happy2:

I just happen to have found a combination that suits me and the paintwork on my car (Dodo Juice Supernatural and Chemical Guys QD)  :wink:
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: JPC on October 19, 2009, 03:52:17 pm
I know CG's Qd is fine for what your doing with it nath. Shouldnt affect any protection. And yep..it does make it feel silky smooth and beads better :)
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: monte on October 19, 2009, 04:06:01 pm
I wouldn't use the QD if the car was dirty, but i have been using it instead of washing the car :ashamed: so this is a no,no? I am sure it said it could be used as a waterless car wash on light grime  :scared:  Suppose i'd better be giving the car a quick wash first.
What sort of shampoo would you recommend Jay? I have been trying to use up the litre of AG Bodywork Shampoo/conditioner. Its ok and its wax friendly but i would like something with more suds. I don't use a pressure washer though, just by hand!
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: JPC on October 19, 2009, 04:24:56 pm
To be honest, im not one for touching the paint on a car unless it has been properly washed, i hate taking anything off the paint without using snowfoam and a pressure washer. I very rarely do this.

I wouldnt want to be taking dust off the car with a QD and microfibre. but that might just be me being a perfectionist. Id rather leave my car dusty than chance marring the paintwork. On your silver car, youd probably get away with it but i wouldnt on my black.

My favourite Shampoo is Chemical Guys Extreme wash n wax. But at the moment im using up some Meguiars Hyperwash, which again is good.
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: john_o on October 19, 2009, 08:01:47 pm
agree with Jay and Greenouse , would never dream of using QD without washing the car first.....
Megs QD doesnt seem to have effected the sealant Jay, should I use something else?

Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: JPC on October 19, 2009, 08:14:00 pm
No no. The qd your using doesn't contain any solvents iirc
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: stealthwolf on October 19, 2009, 09:49:35 pm
Not a fan of the red mist at all as it's hard work for a QD! You may be ok with a silver car but you have to ensure you remove any excess as dust/salt etc will stick to it! I ended up with a car covered in salt earlier in the year after using this stuff the day before.

Dammit and I just bought this stuff. Needed a few things and bought this on a whim. Was going to try it this weekend along with the snowfoam I just bought.
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: keith on October 19, 2009, 10:30:58 pm
For a cheap shampoo that performs well in my opinion i would try Meg's Shampoo+ leaves a nice finish and the price for the amount you get :happy2:.
The Dodo Juice Red mist I find to be great as well I use it all the time after a wash on the car.
Autoglym have a new detailer out at the moment which sells very well in both the 500ml and trade size called rapid detailer( see my Gb thread) If anyones interested in CG's detailers and anything else from them give me a shout as I am hopefully going to get some of there stuff in this week. 
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: pazz on October 19, 2009, 10:54:15 pm
Think I may have to give this Last Touch a try. Thanks for the heads up.

I seem to go bottles and bottles of QD. Trade size sounds a good idea!

The best QD I've ever used was Sonus Canauba Spritz QD
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/detailing-sprays/sonus-carnauba-spritz/prod_74.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/detailing-sprays/sonus-carnauba-spritz/prod_74.html)

But its not cheap @ £10.95 and the bottle is pretty small. The finish after some P21s/R222 though is pretty faultless.
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: Greeners on October 21, 2009, 10:09:37 am
Not a fan of the red mist at all as it's hard work for a QD! You may be ok with a silver car but you have to ensure you remove any excess as dust/salt etc will stick to it! I ended up with a car covered in salt earlier in the year after using this stuff the day before.

Dammit and I just bought this stuff. Needed a few things and bought this on a whim. Was going to try it this weekend along with the snowfoam I just bought.

Hard work on a black car Stealth!!

Talking to the Autoperfection guys at ED38 they weren't overly impressed either!
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: keith on October 22, 2009, 10:45:33 pm
Not a fan of the red mist at all as it's hard work for a QD! You may be ok with a silver car but you have to ensure you remove any excess as dust/salt etc will stick to it! I ended up with a car covered in salt earlier in the year after using this stuff the day before.

Dammit and I just bought this stuff. Needed a few things and bought this on a whim. Was going to try it this weekend along with the snowfoam I just bought.

Hard work on a black car Stealth!!

Talking to the Autoperfection guys at ED38 they weren't overly impressed either!

iirc is there not two types of red mist?
I basically spray and wipe straight away and on small patches at a time.
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: JPC on October 22, 2009, 10:47:28 pm
Red mist and red mist tropical iirc. Not the biggest user of dodo stuff I must admit though.
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: Greeners on October 22, 2009, 10:48:25 pm
Not a fan of the red mist at all as it's hard work for a QD! You may be ok with a silver car but you have to ensure you remove any excess as dust/salt etc will stick to it! I ended up with a car covered in salt earlier in the year after using this stuff the day before.

Dammit and I just bought this stuff. Needed a few things and bought this on a whim. Was going to try it this weekend along with the snowfoam I just bought.

Hard work on a black car Stealth!!

Talking to the Autoperfection guys at ED38 they weren't overly impressed either!

iirc is there not two types of red mist?
I basically spray and wipe straight away and on small patches at a time.

Yep, standard red mist and Tropical!  :happy2:

I think the smell is the only difference!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: stealthwolf on October 22, 2009, 11:04:06 pm
Apparently with the Tropical, you can leave it on a bit longer to 'haze' before buffing whereas with Red Mist you have to spray and wipe almost simultaneously!
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: keith on October 22, 2009, 11:05:39 pm
I am sure there is something to do with the amount of time you can leave the spray on the paintwork the one i use if you leave to long you get a water type mark that is harder to work in with the mf.
The Dodo stuff is good but its not always instructed very well.
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: Greeners on October 22, 2009, 11:09:06 pm
Apparently with the Tropical, you can leave it on a bit longer to 'haze' before buffing whereas with Red Mist you have to spray and wipe almost simultaneously!

That's how I used mine Stealth. Hopefully mine was just a bad batch and yours will be ok!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: stealthwolf on October 22, 2009, 11:12:09 pm
We'll see how the weekend fares. I was hoping to use the extra 'hour' gained by clocks going back this weekend to spend more time on giving the car a scrub. If I can get a coupla decent layers of Collinite (think I prefer it over supernatural), car will be sorted for winter.
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: Top Cat on October 23, 2009, 02:46:39 pm
I have been using red mist since the summer and it gives great results on my candy easily the shiniest by far. But it takes ages to buff off to a decent standard whether you do it straight away or leave it.
For me this makes it practically useless as the clue is in the name.  :rolleye:
It works well on glass though and gives good beading.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: stealthwolf on October 24, 2009, 12:56:58 am
On say the bonnet, how much buffing would be involved? More than say thirty seconds' worth?
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: keith on October 24, 2009, 08:32:13 pm
I did mine earlier and its one spray couple of wipes and its onto another bit, small sprays you dont need much.
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: autoperfection.com on October 26, 2009, 05:37:07 pm


Hard work on a black car Stealth!!

Talking to the Autoperfection guys at ED38 they weren't overly impressed either!
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Urm... you mean "Autoperfection guy and girl" - right?!?! :chicken:

This one's a tricky one because we have to agree with a lot of you who have found it hard work... it is a difficult product to use and completely agree with it being a bit of a contradiction in terms whereby it's a "Quick Detailer" that takes a reasonable amount of time to get right... however, having said all that - if you have got time to use the product and get it completey buffed off, it does give an excellent result and definitely adds a bit more shine.
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: Greeners on October 26, 2009, 09:00:30 pm
 :P
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: Tarmac_Terrorist on October 26, 2009, 11:43:44 pm
My favourite QD spray is Clearkote Quikshine. Not cheap but I find it leaves a wetter finish than any of the Megs QD range.
I'm also on my 3rd bottle of Red Mist. I've gone for the tropical version this time as I found the 'normal' version solvents flashed off a bit quick in the hot summer sunshine.
Red mist gives me 3 weeks visible durability on my daily driver even in winter conditions. I find Red Mist leaves a deeper wetter finish that the Zaino equivelent Z8.

As previously said, it's important not to confuse spray sealants like Red Mist with QD's. If you try to use Red mist on anything other than a perfectly clean and dry surface you will probably end up with a smeary mess - plus seal in any dust / dirt into your paint. Used properly, it can really add a 'something' to even a recently waxed car, although I tend to use it to extend the life of my LSP after say 2-3 months when I should possibly be considering stripping, prepping and reapplying fresh wax.

I have used a QD to remove dust on my cars but only very light garage dust - the thin dust I might find say 3 days after washing a car and garaging it without use. Definitely wouldn't use QD to remove anything heavier for the risk of marring the paint.
I usually just use QD after drying the car to leave a nice slick finish.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: monte on November 04, 2009, 10:32:29 am
What about Demon Shine at Halfords? Is this stuff as poo as it sounds or is it a decent QD? Its on offer at Halfords at the mo. All Carplan cleaning products are 3for2.
1L spray bottles are £6.99
5L bottles are £9.99

So basically you can get 3L in spray bottles for £14 or 15L in big bottles (no spray) for £20. Great value......if it works :ashamed:

Link to 1L spray...

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_556681_langId_-1_categoryId_165527

Link to 5L bottle...

 http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_556669_langId_-1_categoryId_165527
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: keith on November 04, 2009, 10:51:43 pm
I have used it once, its still sitting in the garage somewhere. tells a story.

A few Questions for you guys? I have a new detailing spray coming out, so
what would make you move from your current one?
What do you look for in your detailing spray?
Would you prefer 500ml or 1L?

 
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: Jules86 on November 08, 2009, 05:25:17 pm
I have used it once, its still sitting in the garage somewhere. tells a story.

A few Questions for you guys? I have a new detailing spray coming out, so
what would make you move from your current one?
What do you look for in your detailing spray?
Would you prefer 500ml or 1L?

 


The one thing i love changing is detailing sprays! I always get a different one, they all do what they say on the tin anyway.

The only one i have bought a few times is the clearkote and poorboys spray and gloss. Both superb to use with a drying towel to dry down the car!

The net under the parcel shelf always has a bottle of detailer spray in it  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: RedRobin on November 09, 2009, 09:07:55 am

As previously said, it's important not to confuse spray sealants like Red Mist with QD's. If you try to use Red mist on anything other than a perfectly clean and dry surface you will probably end up with a smeary mess - plus seal in any dust / dirt into your paint. Used properly, it can really add a 'something' to even a recently waxed car, although I tend to use it to extend the life of my LSP after say 2-3 months when I should possibly be considering stripping, prepping and reapplying fresh wax.


....I've heard that about Red Mist before and it's been stopping me from using it so far. It sounds as if it's a bit too dodgy for someone like me to use - My car has 3 coats of Zaino but probably isn't perfect. I bought some from Autoperfection but haven't used it yet - Anyone want to buy my 500ml bottle cheap or should I try it?

IIRC, naughty Taryn sold it to me as a QD.
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: autoperfection.com on November 09, 2009, 11:30:56 am

As previously said, it's important not to confuse spray sealants like Red Mist with QD's. If you try to use Red mist on anything other than a perfectly clean and dry surface you will probably end up with a smeary mess - plus seal in any dust / dirt into your paint. Used properly, it can really add a 'something' to even a recently waxed car, although I tend to use it to extend the life of my LSP after say 2-3 months when I should possibly be considering stripping, prepping and reapplying fresh wax.


....I've heard that about Red Mist before and it's been stopping me from using it so far. It sounds as if it's a bit too dodgy for someone like me to use - My car has 3 coats of Zaino but probably isn't perfect. I bought some from Autoperfection but haven't used it yet - Anyone want to buy my 500ml bottle cheap or should I try it?

IIRC, naughty Taryn sold it to me as a QD.


I agree with what Tarmac_Terrorist Says - however red mist is sold and marketed as a quick detailer with protection, Dodo say its the mother of all Quick Detailers - on the back of the bottle!! So Taryn wasnt naughty as this is how dodo market the product.
I dont think this is out and out a spray sealant such as Zanio its more of a hybrid between the two. The smeary mess refered to is the agressive solvent in Redmist simply having a melting effect on any product underneath and moving it around causing smearing of product.
I do however agree that it can add a certain something but it can be a pain to use sometimes especially when it seems to have more incompatability with certain products more than others.
just my two pence
Jim
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: RedRobin on November 09, 2009, 12:25:38 pm
^^^^
Don't worry, Jim - No problem with Taryn whatsoever from me - I've absolutely no doubt she offered it to me in good faith. I've anyway now found a new home for my never used bottle of Red Mist with someone who already uses it.

Good to hear your input here on the subject  :drinking:
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: autoperfection.com on November 09, 2009, 12:35:44 pm
^^^^
Don't worry, Jim - No problem with Taryn whatsoever from me - I've absolutely no doubt she offered it to me in good faith. I've anyway now found a new home for my never used bottle of Red Mist with someone who already uses it.

Good to hear your input here on the subject  :drinking:

No problems thought, glad you have found it a new home :smiley:
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: QD MBE on November 09, 2009, 07:00:04 pm
^^^^
Don't worry, Jim - No problem with Taryn whatsoever from me - I've absolutely no doubt she offered it to me in good faith. I've anyway now found a new home for my never used bottle of Red Mist with someone who already uses it.

Good to hear your input here on the subject  :drinking:

Red Mist is for life - Not just for christmas!!!!
Title: Re: Quick Detailer Sprays
Post by: Greeners on November 10, 2009, 03:07:28 pm
^^^^
Don't worry, Jim - No problem with Taryn whatsoever from me - I've absolutely no doubt she offered it to me in good faith. I've anyway now found a new home for my never used bottle of Red Mist with someone who already uses it.

Good to hear your input here on the subject  :drinking:

Red Mist is for life - Not just for christmas!!!!

Not in my house it isn't!

I have a bottle with a tiny bit used if anyone wants to offer me some beer tokens for it?  :happy2: