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Title: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: swgti on May 17, 2014, 08:36:17 am
My all time favorite car but seriously are they taking the p*ss? Seems people are trying their luck at any price these days with anything that is RS badged, some crazy prices around but doesn't look like these are actually selling. This car in particular comes up as being stolen at some point too if you google the reg plate. Think there's about 1/2 a dozen Escort Cossies on sale at the the moment £30k and above and I saw an Sierra RS500 for £70k not that long ago.

Not only restricted to RS either all "classics" seem to be going loopy recently, surely the ar*e must fall out of this market before long?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201404163380715/sort/pricedesc/usedcars/page/1/make/ford/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/radius/1500/postcode/ca101bn/model/escort?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201404163380715/sort/pricedesc/usedcars/page/1/make/ford/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/radius/1500/postcode/ca101bn/model/escort?logcode=p)

Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Simmo on May 17, 2014, 08:42:11 am
Theyre crazy prices! I remember walking into A ford dealer in 1998 and seeing a new one for 21k!

My old boss in 2001 had one for 90 mins, he launched it over a hump back bridge and ripped the engine out!

I think all classics are insanely priced now, porsche 911's from the 80s which used to go for 18k in 2003 are now 40-50  :surprised:
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: garrardrj on May 17, 2014, 09:07:35 am
My all time favorite car but seriously are they taking the p*ss? Seems people are trying their luck at any price these days with anything that is RS badged, some crazy prices around but doesn't look like these are actually selling. This car in particular comes up as being stolen at some point too if you google the reg plate. Think there's about 1/2 a dozen Escort Cossies on sale at the the moment £30k and above and I saw an Sierra RS500 for £70k not that long ago.

Not only restricted to RS either all "classics" seem to be going loopy recently, surely the ar*e must fall out of this market before long?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201404163380715/sort/pricedesc/usedcars/page/1/make/ford/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/radius/1500/postcode/ca101bn/model/escort?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201404163380715/sort/pricedesc/usedcars/page/1/make/ford/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/radius/1500/postcode/ca101bn/model/escort?logcode=p)



The Classic car market went mad before and then crashed , hasn't got back to its peak yet , but likely to get a correction soon . We sold our family Willys Jeep recently at double what we paid for it .
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SRC on May 17, 2014, 09:15:20 am
A Cossie that has never been stolen would be truly unique.
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: swgti on May 17, 2014, 09:16:40 am
A mate and I had a Mk1 Escort Mexico Rep (based on 1300e) about 7yrs ago, we sold it for about £650, this was taxed and tested and running. The Mk1 they did on wheeler dealers last year was in worse nick and he paid about £6k IIRC.

Anyone who bought a Cossie at the height of the insurance madness in the 90's and kept it would be laughing now, I can remember 3-4yr old Sapphire's going for £4-5k and escort's for about £9k only a couple of years old.
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Karl_mac_ on May 17, 2014, 10:00:42 am
Given they're selling you could argue its a fair price. Look at mk1/2 Golfs, stupid prices when you consider its a 20 year old family hatch.

Theres a fee stupid ones out there, but the RS500 did sell to a collector for £63k.
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: arris on May 17, 2014, 10:49:52 am
You have to admit it does look awesome tho!  :ashamed: :jumping:
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GTI5 on May 17, 2014, 11:16:52 am
How they ever thought that wing looks good :sick:...
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on May 17, 2014, 03:18:56 pm
And only Mk7 Gti power, admittedly way before cars got phat with crumple zones airbags and safety cells, would be surprised if that RS500 weighs 1100kg.

The one I drove back in the day had ridiculous turbo lag, like counting to six before anything happened....good fun in the right gear though
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: MC71 on May 17, 2014, 04:47:54 pm
Gorgeous car, truly stunning!!

I'd have happily handed out my internal organs for one of these back in the day.

How they ever thought that wing looks good :sick:...

That's the Pièce de résistance of the cossa.  :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DDM on May 17, 2014, 09:30:59 pm
my all time favorite too, would love to own one, but to be honest i'm not sure i'd dare use it.
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: phil1975 on May 17, 2014, 10:37:30 pm
Hard to value these cars its a old saying but "they are only worth what someone is prepared to pay for them" I think these dealers know that they have to sit on these cars for a long time before they get any interest or they are selling on a commission basis. That red car if you believe what you read on other forums has a bit of a chequered history, having been stolen once.

Here's a couple of good websites for you guys who like their older cars  www.4starclassics.com   and    www.kgfclassiccars.co.uk

My escort was no where near these prices, but I can't help wondering when it is eventually finished what it will actually owe me?? :scared: At least its a joint project with a mate of mine so we are sharing the many bills!!

Trouble is us older guys who can't except the passage of time still love these cars but can't or won't except that these cars are nearly 20 years old now and still hanker after cars of their youth.

Couple of current pics.....
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fz331%2Fphil1975%2FWP_20140419_002_zpscef8e982.jpg&hash=59f417bdedfd38c5297f536e1c9a7c6dd5189f2b)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fz331%2Fphil1975%2Feaa7be5b-7ed4-4c89-b699-1eb788f8e6a2_zps88b20b03.jpg&hash=165db633a67abaf3f2b00b671dea3be0d0bb0fcb)





Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GunnerGibson on May 17, 2014, 11:11:58 pm
A classic vehicle.. Standard cars will hold / increase in value as time passes
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: doylebros on May 18, 2014, 07:31:37 am
I noticed this one after reading this thread.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1992-K-Ford-Escort-Cosworth-2-0-Luxury-3dr-/171321697046

Crazy money! :stupid:
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SurreyED30 on May 18, 2014, 09:51:17 am
Nice car mate ^ what's left to finish off the project?
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: boxxer1973 on May 18, 2014, 12:58:28 pm
Hard to value these cars its a old saying but "they are only worth what someone is prepared to pay for them" I think these dealers know that they have to sit on these cars for a long time before they get any interest or they are selling on a commission basis. That red car if you believe what you read on other forums has a bit of a chequered history, having been stolen once.

Here's a couple of good websites for you guys who like their older cars  www.4starclassics.com   and    www.kgfclassiccars.co.uk

My escort was no where near these prices, but I can't help wondering when it is eventually finished what it will actually owe me?? :scared: At least its a joint project with a mate of mine so we are sharing the many bills!!

Trouble is us older guys who can't except the passage of time still love these cars but can't or won't except that these cars are nearly 20 years old now and still hanker after cars of their youth.

Couple of current pics.....
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fz331%2Fphil1975%2FWP_20140419_002_zpscef8e982.jpg&hash=59f417bdedfd38c5297f536e1c9a7c6dd5189f2b)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fz331%2Fphil1975%2Feaa7be5b-7ed4-4c89-b699-1eb788f8e6a2_zps88b20b03.jpg&hash=165db633a67abaf3f2b00b671dea3be0d0bb0fcb)






my mates selling a M.A.D developments engine if your interested only done 2k since rebuild
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: phil1975 on May 18, 2014, 03:45:36 pm
Nice car mate ^ what's left to finish off the project?

Still to do.....

1.) re-commission the air con system (fingers crossed not to much wrong)
2.) replace front and rear diff's with uprated ones
3.) replace rear beam with 6 degree rear beam for better handling and tyre wear
4.) re-bush rear end
5.) braided brake hoses all round
6.) refurbish alloys in a nice grey
7.) replace gearbox with uprated item (hopefully next year...)
8.) few small dents to be removed (very last thing on the list, just in case anymore happen along the way!)

Bound to be a few other jobs along the way, uprated parts are easy to get its certain other parts that are near on impossible to get.
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: phil1975 on May 18, 2014, 03:47:20 pm
Hard to value these cars its a old saying but "they are only worth what someone is prepared to pay for them" I think these dealers know that they have to sit on these cars for a long time before they get any interest or they are selling on a commission basis. That red car if you believe what you read on other forums has a bit of a chequered history, having been stolen once.

Here's a couple of good websites for you guys who like their older cars  www.4starclassics.com   and    www.kgfclassiccars.co.uk

My escort was no where near these prices, but I can't help wondering when it is eventually finished what it will actually owe me?? :scared: At least its a joint project with a mate of mine so we are sharing the many bills!!

Trouble is us older guys who can't except the passage of time still love these cars but can't or won't except that these cars are nearly 20 years old now and still hanker after cars of their youth.

Couple of current pics.....
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fz331%2Fphil1975%2FWP_20140419_002_zpscef8e982.jpg&hash=59f417bdedfd38c5297f536e1c9a7c6dd5189f2b)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fz331%2Fphil1975%2Feaa7be5b-7ed4-4c89-b699-1eb788f8e6a2_zps88b20b03.jpg&hash=165db633a67abaf3f2b00b671dea3be0d0bb0fcb)






my mates selling a M.A.D developments engine if your interested only done 2k since rebuild

Thanks for that :happy2:
I would have bit your hand of for that a few months ago, but already been down the rebuild route earlier this year.
Title: Re: Escort Cosworth.........How much? seriously!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SurreyED30 on May 18, 2014, 03:55:50 pm
Bet she's gonna be to die for when done and will be a huge accomplishment to you and your mate  :happy2: