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Title: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: swgti on May 20, 2014, 01:17:54 pm
So what do you reckon?

Personally I'd see quarter finals as a huge achievement but just hope our Roy gives the youth a go and they get some valuable tournament experience. I like the fact that now the media and the rest of the nation seem to have lowered the expectations, makes following England more enjoyable I think.

Play with no fear, no huge expectations and I think we could well be the surprise package......
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: xjay1337 on May 20, 2014, 01:20:11 pm
Non existant.
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Degudodger on May 20, 2014, 01:22:36 pm
Not a chance.
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Jakesangel on May 20, 2014, 01:36:59 pm
Usual media hype building up the team before the competition starts, putting pressure on them and quoting things like "unleash the young lions" then when we fail the papers will crucify the squad and this time the headlines will probably read "Lambs to the slaughter"

In my heart i'd absolutely love this potentially young team to go to Brazil and play with the passion and flair that they are capable of and for that reason i'm not just going to just dismiss their chances before its even started. However, my head is telling me something different.

So F**k it, i'm going with my heart.

COME ON ENGLAND  :congrats: :congrats: :party:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Bernhard30 on May 20, 2014, 01:46:57 pm
Quarters at best..Semi's if a miracle occurs..

It'll be good to get past the group stage.
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: gtipirelli on May 20, 2014, 01:49:41 pm
home after the group phase unfortunately
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Viking on May 20, 2014, 02:03:38 pm
I really hope Hodgson is forward thinking enough to see past this world cup and into the future. Dragging the old school out time and time again to see them collecting their pension and playing for the money is just not on really, and the youth need to be given more of a chance. Still, he's made a start with Ashley Cole, telling him he wasn't going. I like the way it panned out where Hodgson says "Sorry Ashley, but you don't figure in my plans for the England squad.", and Ashley announces his international retirement the next day. How can you retire from a position you don't hold?  :rolleye:

So, better to field a squad in the making and get some sharp football played, than field the old timers and hope they can manage to make it past the group stages without inflaming their arthritis.

I reckon a young squad will have a good chance of playing well and upsetting a few teams, but will fall at the fence when the real questions are asked. Through the group stages okay, and then go out in the second round.
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: biffobear on May 20, 2014, 04:50:11 pm
What's the saying, a gnats chance in hell, conditions don't suit North Europeans
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: MC71 on May 20, 2014, 04:58:00 pm
We have a sh*t team nowadays so we will be home as soon as the group stages are done, can't see us winning a single game, ashamed to say. Well, that's what I'm putting my hard earned on anyway.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: GTI5 on May 20, 2014, 05:44:53 pm
I think QF would be acceptable, the younger players need to be given the experience as well.  It's over so quickly with just 3 games to play and some of the games in previous tournaments have been quite boring at times.

Last decent looking team England had was Euro 2004 imo.

It will be interesting to see how they manage some of the civil unrest that has been reported by the media.
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Jussa on May 20, 2014, 06:13:15 pm
I think getting out of the group will be a huge achievement - but saying that if Roy lets Gerrard boss his favourite 'Liverpool' position with all the youngsters around him I think the team will surprise quite a few people  :innocent:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: mvb12 on May 20, 2014, 06:18:57 pm
England WC will depend on if Rooney turns up!

If Rooney has a bad tournament as previous, then bet your bottom dollar England is out before they've kicked a ball.

Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Chris92 on May 20, 2014, 06:35:18 pm
England WC will depend on if Rooney turns up!

If Rooney has a bad tournament as previous, then bet your bottom dollar England is out before they've kicked a ball.



Does anyone else rate Rooney? Yes he's good but I don't think he's anywhere near as good as people hype on over him also why is welbeck going haha.

Lots of negatives on here about England but if football was that predicable none of us here would be interested in it, end of the day someone has to win it and you just never know. I'm going to guess Semi finals ha
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: ILoveTuna on May 20, 2014, 06:53:47 pm
Getting out of the group will be a decent return. Just hope we play with a bit of flair.   :drinking:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: taylor on May 20, 2014, 07:12:19 pm
Seriously can't see us getting out the groups, however if we play fearlessly and with plenty of passion I think the young guns can do us well, would love a good World Cup run
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: swgti on May 20, 2014, 07:30:51 pm
IF we get out of the group the quarters should be on as the next phase is against pretty average sides, Columbia Greece, Ivory Coast or Japan.

If anyone hasn't already seen it watch One Night inTurin, that'll get you in the mood, especially if you're old enough to remember Italia 90. :happy2:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Saintsteve on May 20, 2014, 07:39:35 pm
Give Ricky Lambert the ball, and he will score...

I have high hopes that the Southampton players get a decent chance to show what they are more then capable of..
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: betty_swollox on May 20, 2014, 08:55:24 pm
The England team is SH!T.
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: rdfcpete on May 20, 2014, 09:20:32 pm
We defo' won't win it as Jay Rodriguez is out injured  :sad1: :booty:







 :wink:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Saintsteve on May 20, 2014, 09:56:25 pm
We defo' won't win it as Jay Rodriguez is out injured  :sad1: :booty:







 :wink:

 :grin:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: mvb12 on May 20, 2014, 10:11:59 pm
England WC will depend on if Rooney turns up!

If Rooney has a bad tournament as previous, then bet your bottom dollar England is out before they've kicked a ball.



Does anyone else rate Rooney? Yes he's good but I don't think he's anywhere near as good as people hype on over him also why is welbeck going haha.

Lots of negatives on here about England but if football was that predicable none of us here would be interested in it, end of the day someone has to win it and you just never know. I'm going to guess Semi finals ha

I don't think Rooney is anything special and I hate Manure. But I just feel if England are going to push on they need Rooney to show up
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: taylor on May 20, 2014, 10:14:43 pm
England WC will depend on if Rooney turns up!

If Rooney has a bad tournament as previous, then bet your bottom dollar England is out before they've kicked a ball.



Does anyone else rate Rooney? Yes he's good but I don't think he's anywhere near as good as people hype on over him also why is welbeck going haha.

Lots of negatives on here about England but if football was that predicable none of us here would be interested in it, end of the day someone has to win it and you just never know. I'm going to guess Semi finals ha

I don't think Rooney is anything special and I hate Manure. But I just feel if England are going to push on they need Rooney to show up

Don't think Rooney has turned up to a major tournament yet has he? Always a let down when it comes to the big comps that's why we need the youth to be fearless and just play how they have this season, I still think picking players in form is the best policy! Nothing better than confident players
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: mvb12 on May 20, 2014, 10:18:18 pm
IF we get out of the group the quarters should be on as the next phase is against pretty average sides, Columbia Greece, Ivory Coast or Japan.

If anyone hasn't already seen it watch One Night inTurin, that'll get you in the mood, especially if you're old enough to remember Italia 90. :happy2:

Wouldn't class Ivory Coast as an average team. In fact on paper, England would have a tough time getting a result.
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: betty_swollox on May 20, 2014, 10:21:14 pm
IF we get out of the group the quarters should be on as the next phase is against pretty average sides, Columbia Greece, Ivory Coast or Japan.

If anyone hasn't already seen it watch One Night inTurin, that'll get you in the mood, especially if you're old enough to remember Italia 90. :happy2:

Wouldn't class Ivory Coast as an average team. In fact on paper, England would have a tough time getting a result.

Lol i know!!

who do u think is better?

Yaya toure and Drogba.....or lampard and lambert  :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: mvb12 on May 20, 2014, 10:21:51 pm
England WC will depend on if Rooney turns up!

If Rooney has a bad tournament as previous, then bet your bottom dollar England is out before they've kicked a ball.



Does anyone else rate Rooney? Yes he's good but I don't think he's anywhere near as good as people hype on over him also why is welbeck going haha.

Lots of negatives on here about England but if football was that predicable none of us here would be interested in it, end of the day someone has to win it and you just never know. I'm going to guess Semi finals ha

I don't think Rooney is anything special and I hate Manure. But I just feel if England are going to push on they need Rooney to show up

Don't think Rooney has turned up to a major tournament yet has he? Always a let down when it comes to the big comps that's why we need the youth to be fearless and just play how they have this season, I still think picking players in form is the best policy! Nothing better than confident players

That's what I mean, he has always been piss poor on the big stage and he could be the difference if he turns up.
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: J12spk on May 20, 2014, 11:42:02 pm
With 3 saints players in the squad the trophy will paraded around soton on a open top bus with Lallana as future England captain holding it above his head while signing a new contract with saints! Luke shaw will be following Adam and signing a new deal too!

 :scared:

Don't know what's worse, being a saints fan and worrying if we have a bare 11 for next season or watching England in a penalty shoot out?!
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: swgti on May 21, 2014, 07:41:24 am
IF we get out of the group the quarters should be on as the next phase is against pretty average sides, Columbia Greece, Ivory Coast or Japan.

If anyone hasn't already seen it watch One Night inTurin, that'll get you in the mood, especially if you're old enough to remember Italia 90. :happy2:

Wouldn't class Ivory Coast as an average team. In fact on paper, England would have a tough time getting a result.

Lol i know!!

who do u think is better?

Yaya toure and Drogba.....or lampard and lambert  :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:

Decent team yes, but loads better than England? I'm not sure. Drogba, used to be quality but surely now past it, Toure obviously world class but as for the other 21 players in their squad, not exactly household names are they
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Karl_mac_ on May 21, 2014, 09:39:57 am
Quarter finals, would consider reaching semis a real achievement.

It'll be a south american team that wins, always is in their continent.

I'm more interested in the fact that agents have been banned from camp, that could be really interesting.
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Tamiyoman on May 21, 2014, 10:17:41 am
With 3 saints players in the squad the trophy will paraded around soton on a open top bus with Lallana as future England captain holding it above his head while signing a new contract with saints! Luke shaw will be following Adam and signing a new deal too!

 :scared:


Englands chances... Zero (3rd in group), about the same chances as Lallana and Shaw staying at SOTON if Scallypool and United come calling  :signLOL:

Argentina/Brazil/Uruguay will win

**Edit** looks like a deal for Shaw may be pretty close as it looks like a fee has been agreed (27m), quote from F365 "It looks like Luke Shaw could become Louis van Gaal's first signing at Manchester United following reports that the left-back has been house hunting in the area"  :happy2:
Title: Re:
Post by: beetie on May 21, 2014, 07:05:33 pm
I rate Rooney. His workrate is right up there with the best. The problem is he turns up at tournaments injured or just after an injury.
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Powervalve Nige on May 21, 2014, 07:19:29 pm
What's up with you all - we're gonna win, it's our turn... :party:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: betty_swollox on May 21, 2014, 07:24:34 pm
What's up with you all - we're gonna win, it's our turn... :party:

If only everyone was as enthusiastic as you Nige! :signLOL:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Saintsteve on May 21, 2014, 07:39:43 pm
With 3 saints players in the squad the trophy will paraded around soton on a open top bus with Lallana as future England captain holding it above his head while signing a new contract with saints! Luke shaw will be following Adam and signing a new deal too!

 :scared:


Englands chances... Zero (3rd in group), about the same chances as Lallana and Shaw staying at SOTON if Scallypool and United come calling  :signLOL:

Argentina/Brazil/Uruguay will win

**Edit** looks like a deal for Shaw may be pretty close as it looks like a fee has been agreed (27m), quote from F365 "It looks like Luke Shaw could become Louis van Gaal's first signing at Manchester United following reports that the left-back has been house hunting in the area"  :happy2:

Luke shaw was in Portugal before flying back to meet up with the England setup..... Your new manager at utd hasn't even joined your club yet and your saying he's already joined :laugh:  :laugh:.

Sorry biggest load of bull I've read in ages :signLOL:

All paper talk  :stupid:

Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Tortaruga on May 21, 2014, 11:51:34 pm
Zero.

The English don't have the self belief to get anywhere. They lack technical ability, arrogance and tactical nous. Even luck deserts them.  It's quite sad actually.
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Tamiyoman on May 22, 2014, 12:00:15 pm
With 3 saints players in the squad the trophy will paraded around soton on a open top bus with Lallana as future England captain holding it above his head while signing a new contract with saints! Luke shaw will be following Adam and signing a new deal too!  :scared:
**Edit** looks like a deal for Shaw may be pretty close as it looks like a fee has been agreed (27m), quote from F365 "It looks like Luke Shaw could become Louis van Gaal's first signing at Manchester United following reports that the left-back has been house hunting in the area"  :happy2:

Luke shaw was in Portugal before flying back to meet up with the England setup..... Your new manager at utd hasn't even joined your club yet and your saying he's already joined :laugh:  :laugh:.

Sorry biggest load of bull I've read in ages :signLOL:

All paper talk  :stupid:

Van Gaal is confirmed as manager  :happy2:.

Luke Shaw and Toni Kroos incoming!  :signLOL:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Quiksilvercm on May 22, 2014, 01:09:15 pm
Keep Rooney on the bench and we will get to the semi's
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Saintsteve on May 22, 2014, 05:02:17 pm
With 3 saints players in the squad the trophy will paraded around soton on a open top bus with Lallana as future England captain holding it above his head while signing a new contract with saints! Luke shaw will be following Adam and signing a new deal too!  :scared:
**Edit** looks like a deal for Shaw may be pretty close as it looks like a fee has been agreed (27m), quote from F365 "It looks like Luke Shaw could become Louis van Gaal's first signing at Manchester United following reports that the left-back has been house hunting in the area"  :happy2:

Luke shaw was in Portugal before flying back to meet up with the England setup..... Your new manager at utd hasn't even joined your club yet and your saying he's already joined :laugh:  :laugh:.

Sorry biggest load of bull I've read in ages :signLOL:

All paper talk  :stupid:

Van Gaal is confirmed as manager  :happy2:.

Luke Shaw and Toni Kroos incoming!  :signLOL:
Our Luke shaw signed a 5 yr deal 9 months ago  :wink:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Viking on May 22, 2014, 07:09:36 pm
Our Luke shaw signed a 5 yr deal 9 months ago  :wink:

David Moyes signed a 6 year contract, and they paid that out. I reckon if someone wants to leave a club, or a club wants rid of them, a contract is worthless as a tool to make things stay the same. Too much money in the game.
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Saintsteve on May 22, 2014, 07:57:03 pm
Our Luke shaw signed a 5 yr deal 9 months ago  :wink:

David Moyes signed a 6 year contract, and they paid that out. I reckon if someone wants to leave a club, or a club wants rid of them, a contract is worthless as a tool to make things stay the same. Too much money in the game.

But that's the point, he has admitted he's happy at saints, it's just all the tabloids say he isn't lol..

6 players leaving Southampton and non of them have left yet and nor has the manager lol... Don't believe everything you read..
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Tamiyoman on May 22, 2014, 11:16:19 pm
Our Luke shaw signed a 5 yr deal 9 months ago  :wink:

David Moyes signed a 6 year contract, and they paid that out. I reckon if someone wants to leave a club, or a club wants rid of them, a contract is worthless as a tool to make things stay the same. Too much money in the game.

But that's the point, he has admitted he's happy at saints, it's just all the tabloids say he isn't lol..

6 players leaving Southampton and non of them have left yet and nor has the manager lol... Don't believe everything you read..

£25m would give him plenty of money to buy more spanish/argentinian players, pochettino could be the new Wenger  :signLOL:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Saintsteve on May 23, 2014, 07:49:53 pm
Our Luke shaw signed a 5 yr deal 9 months ago  :wink:

David Moyes signed a 6 year contract, and they paid that out. I reckon if someone wants to leave a club, or a club wants rid of them, a contract is worthless as a tool to make things stay the same. Too much money in the game.

But that's the point, he has admitted he's happy at saints, it's just all the tabloids say he isn't lol..

6 players leaving Southampton and non of them have left yet and nor has the manager lol... Don't believe everything you read..

£25m would give him plenty of money to buy more spanish/argentinian players, pochettino could be the new Wenger  :signLOL:

Patrice Evra just extended his contract lolol....Why on earth would he do that if he would be a bench warmer if Shaw was coming......and You said Luke shaw was a man utd player ???  ...  :popcornsoda:

It's all hype and he will remain at SFC I'm afraid  :wink:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Saintsteve on May 24, 2014, 05:14:44 pm
Our manager looks like he is staying so looks like everyone is staying at Southampton  :P :P
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: rdfcpete on May 24, 2014, 05:24:57 pm
^ Until Spurs get a confirmed Sherwood-replacement, I couldn't be 100% Steve. Levy is a sneaky badger to say the least!   :sick:

Although if he stays, that's great for you guys for a potential top 10 next season - I don't want Soton to be scrapping in the bottom 3.

United have Evra and Buttner who I've seen in person on a few occasions, he looks like a good player in the making and a LT replacement for Evra. They don't need Shaw IMHO, don't understand when big clubs buy young talent in areas they don't need to strengthen in. Very bizarre.

Also, can I say it annoys the f**k out of me when Pochettino still does interviews in Argie/Spanish?!  :fighting:  :laugh: :wink:
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Saintsteve on May 24, 2014, 06:23:10 pm
^ Until Spurs get a confirmed Sherwood-replacement, I couldn't be 100% Steve. Levy is a sneaky badger to say the least!   :sick:

Although if he stays, that's great for you guys for a potential top 10 next season - I don't want Soton to be scrapping in the bottom 3.

United have Evra and Buttner who I've seen in person on a few occasions, he looks like a good player in the making and a LT replacement for Evra. They don't need Shaw IMHO, don't understand when big clubs buy young talent in areas they don't need to strengthen in. Very bizarre.

Also, can I say it annoys the f**k out of me when Pochettino still does interviews in Argie/Spanish?!  :fighting:  :laugh: :wink:

Southampton Pro are reporting the Poch has snubbed spurs because Saints have offered a 1 yr extension to his contract, and spurs are now going after De Bor..

Personally , I cannot see any of Saints 1st team going, including Lallana.. I'm sure with a couple of more signings, Saints will be challenging top 6 nxt season ..
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: patpong_pete on May 24, 2014, 09:49:35 pm
Personally , I cannot see any of Saints 1st team going, including Lallana..
I'm sure with a couple of more signings, Saints will be challenging top 6 nxt season .

Lallana was or is going liverpool wants euro football

shaw man u but evra staying !

lambert to old and slow but does take a great penalty maybe that's why England took him

pochettino good young manger but why does he need interpreter who speaks to the players and lines man in english

Saints will be challenging top 6 next season you play nice football have had some good english talent but top 6 ?

guess my team we used to play proper football

ps i thought this about englands chances of world cup not southampton
i think we will struggle to get out the group stages but if the young players perform and gel then we might surprise a few teams

Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Orc on May 24, 2014, 11:28:23 pm
Won't even get out of group, although at 33/1 I had to put money on!! Argentina will take it home
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Tamiyoman on May 27, 2014, 12:00:35 pm
Our Luke shaw signed a 5 yr deal 9 months ago  :wink:

David Moyes signed a 6 year contract, and they paid that out. I reckon if someone wants to leave a club, or a club wants rid of them, a contract is worthless as a tool to make things stay the same. Too much money in the game.

But that's the point, he has admitted he's happy at saints, it's just all the tabloids say he isn't lol..

6 players leaving Southampton and non of them have left yet and nor has the manager lol... Don't believe everything you read..

£25m would give him plenty of money to buy more spanish/argentinian players, pochettino could be the new Wenger  :signLOL:

Patrice Evra just extended his contract lolol....Why on earth would he do that if he would be a bench warmer if Shaw was coming......and You said Luke shaw was a man utd player ???  ...  :popcornsoda:

It's all hype and he will remain at SFC I'm afraid  :wink:


Lets see what happens with your manager / Squad over the summer, if at least 2 dont leave I will be suprised.

I never said Shaw was a UTD player, i said it was loking like we might bid for him ;-)
Title: Re: England's World Cup chances?
Post by: Tamiyoman on May 27, 2014, 07:02:24 pm
Say bye bye to Pochettino :signLOL:

Confirmed as new Spurs Manager.

Wonder which players he will sign from Saints first, floodgates are now open  :wink: