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Title: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: JigBake on May 20, 2014, 08:20:34 pm
My friend has a 56plate Edition 30 with 80k and has:
- APR fuel pump
- 3" decat down pipe
- Pipercross Panel filter

It only made 305bhp with a stage 2+ map and is being told that the low power output is down to coking of the valves and no catback. Im shocked at this. I really thought that it would have made more power than that.

My Edition 30 (only 30k) made 351bhp at stage 2+ and I had a full system, panel filter and fuel pump.

Any thoughts or opinions on what it could be, or whether his advice is correct?

I appreciate any help.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: mvb12 on May 20, 2014, 08:22:55 pm
didn't think you can go stage 2+ without the full exhaust system  :confused:
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: metaljay on May 20, 2014, 08:23:37 pm
I thought the same, also should probably have a full induction kit, not just a filter.
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: SurreyED30 on May 20, 2014, 08:24:01 pm
56plate edition 30?? :confused:
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: bacillus on May 20, 2014, 08:24:11 pm
The usual culprit is a boost leak somewhere so check dv and all hoses and connectors.
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: skard on May 20, 2014, 08:31:17 pm
56plate edition 30?? :confused:

There are plenty of them...such as mine
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: MC71 on May 20, 2014, 08:32:34 pm
56plate edition 30?? :confused:

Yeap, that's when they started.

Catback will add nothing but a bit of noise. Check the DV and pipes as mentioned.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 20, 2014, 08:33:22 pm
Down pipe, HPFP & intake are the minimum prerequisites as far as I can remember.


Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 20, 2014, 08:39:45 pm

Planning an intercooler?
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: Markyed30 on May 20, 2014, 08:39:48 pm
Nothing to do with no cat back I'm stage 1+ on standard system, Fuel pump and evoms and made 330 od bhp and 350lb of torque he should get an intake though
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: JigBake on May 20, 2014, 08:40:34 pm
It wont be the lack of induction kit, my car flowed 350bhp with pipercross panel filter. Would the mapper of not picked up on the boost loss/leak? I will get him to check any ways, try to eliminate the problem.
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: SurreyED30 on May 20, 2014, 08:43:02 pm
I standard corrected   :notworthy: I thought the edition30 was 2007-2008 only.
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on May 20, 2014, 08:55:25 pm
didn't think you can go stage 2+ without the full exhaust system  :confused:

As Mike said above the down pipe & sports cat or Decat is all that's required. The cat back section gives you about 2bhp 
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: Saintsteve on May 20, 2014, 09:57:53 pm
didn't think you can go stage 2+ without the full exhaust system  :confused:

As Mike said above the down pipe & sports cat or Decat is all that's required. The cat back section gives you about 2bhp 

That many?  :signLOL:

 :wink:

 
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: GTI-Ross on May 20, 2014, 10:10:26 pm
If there is no boost leak, have you considered that the Dyno might be out or needs re-calibrating. You could always hop on another Dyno and see if the results are the same.

What tuner did you go with? are they a VAG specialist?
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: flashp on May 20, 2014, 10:31:00 pm
How does it drive?
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: betty_swollox on May 20, 2014, 10:34:56 pm
How does it drive?

That is the most important thing!!!!!


Could have been sh1tty rollers?
Title: Re: Stage 2+ Edition 30 not making figures.....
Post by: rich83 on May 20, 2014, 11:19:40 pm
Well...

1. No intake
2. No intercooler

Fix the above and you will stand a better chance at making decent figures