MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: matsu on October 23, 2009, 10:04:47 am
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hi guys
already prepping for next year.........
if i want to keep my enging cover on,what is the best/effective/loudest blah blah or if i want any/all of those benefits do i have no choice but to take the cover off?
i have the carbonio copy on the mo with just standard filter. :ashamed:
thank you in advance, and be gentle witv me
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matsu
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If you are really after an effective intake then I'm afraid you'll have to either get rid of the engine cover or chop it to suit. :sad1:
The main contenders are (in no particular order!!)...
EVOM's intake - great sound if you like it loud - you'll need a dry filter.
ITG intake - See SteveP's fitment thread.
Forge Twintake - See JonnyC's ED30 build thread
DBilas intake - This is a twist on the panel filter intake with the filter at the leading edge of the intake from the front grille.
All claim good power increases over a panel filter.
As to which is best is very subjective.
HTH :happy2:
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When I first bought my Golf I was a bit concerned about removing the engine cover to fit an Intake but after having the carbonio type intake and really liking it I got to thinking I am hardly in the engine bay so why bother about it, so I resigned it to the garage and now I have the Dbilas which i do like sounds a bit like d/vader breathing lol.
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im going HKS in january! :drool:
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hurdy- big fanx for the time you took to answer.
i really wanna keep the cover so i,ll work out how to chop it down to suit when the time comeshas anyone done this already - any pics?
i remember somone selling a chopped cover but can remember who
i,ll try and search for the thread--EDIT- FOUND IT AND PM'D HIM
again many thanks
and cheeky i know... how much am i looking to add to the modfund for this?
matsu
WHAT IS THE(oops caps) hks joe?
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:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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HOLY MOTHER OF GOD.... THATS AN ALIEN :drool:
MATSU.... dammit bloody caps lock but i did shout that out loud:ashamed:
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ITG CAI, budget for around £360! :happy2:
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im going HKS in january! :drool:
....That's a donkey's dick!! Lots of sucking sounds - Dubtek has one.
@ Keith - Your new Washshop logo is fabulous! A major improvement.
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matsu - On the question of engine cover, apart from the option of cutting an oem, EVOMS offer an alu one and it takes the oem centre strip. You can buy it separately from the intake - JKM no doubt 023 9263 9933 (Kate).
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If you do cut the engine cover make sure its secured firmly as it can brake the fuel pump sensor thingy.
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ITG CAI, budget for around £360! :happy2:
Anyone else notice the random K&N sticker ?
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I did! Nothing random about it as I had a K&N in the standard air box!
Now replaced with ITG one :wink:
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mystery solved :wink:
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Do those metal intakes (like that HKS jobbie) not increase intake temperatures and ultimately reduce performance?
Just thought that putting a metal pipe on a red-hot engine is counter productive :confused: or is it negligible ?
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BSH trueseal induction kit - £150 cant go wrong!
works fine on mine and logs show its pulling enough air fine. standard maf location etc all good
pics in my project thread
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cuprak1- i could still chop the engine cover and fit this?
is it as noisy as the evoms?
thanks for the link..... niiiiice car too
matsu
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cuprak1- i could still chop the engine cover and fit this?
is it as noisy as the evoms?
thanks for the link..... niiiiice car too
matsu
The noise is great , here it on the video of my dyno run on page 5.
And yes you can fit stock cover after some butchering
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BSH trueseal induction kit - £150 cant go wrong!
works fine on mine and logs show its pulling enough air fine. standard maf location etc all good
pics in my project thread
What do your LTFT's (Long Term Fuel Trims) look like with the BSH?
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Do those metal intakes (like that HKS jobbie) not increase intake temperatures and ultimately reduce performance?
Just thought that putting a metal pipe on a red-hot engine is counter productive :confused: or is it negligible ?
You can heat wrap anything.
Now, I have no hard evidence to say whether it works or not, it's just based on a theory - what I can tell you is I can kick hell out of the car on a 20 minute track session and the intake is still cold to the touch.
In terms of CAI benefit. I've had mine off and on twice and there's a noticable difference on the top end, I don't know if it adds BHP/torque, but it certainly allows the car to breathe better at the higher RPMs.
Note: custom made EVOMS bend/heat shield/airbox with hybrid 'S' wrapped in Mylar. Out of shot is a 50mm duct from fog grille to airbox.
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Do those metal intakes (like that HKS jobbie) not increase intake temperatures and ultimately reduce performance?
Just thought that putting a metal pipe on a red-hot engine is counter productive :confused: or is it negligible ?
You can heat wrap anything.
Now, I have no hard evidence to say whether it works or not, it's just based on a theory - what I can tell you is I can kick hell out of the car on a 20 minute track session and the intake is still cold to the touch.
In terms of CAI benefit. I've had mine off and on twice and there's a noticable difference on the top end, I don't know if it adds BHP/torque, but it certainly allows the car to breathe better at the higher RPMs.
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Ha - Quality !
Add a little MacLaren F1 (ish) to your Gti !
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Ha - Quality !
Add a little MacLaren F1 (ish) to your Gti !
I can't claim to have invented it, Jonny C sorted it out for me. :happy2:
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BSH trueseal induction kit - £150 cant go wrong!
works fine on mine and logs show its pulling enough air fine. standard maf location etc all good
pics in my project thread
What do your LTFT's (Long Term Fuel Trims) look like with the BSH?
Not looked :grin: need to "obtain" vcds for a few more hours
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^ Let us know if you find out. I'd be interested to see as the BSH intake does look very good value.
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^ Let us know if you find out. I'd be interested to see as the BSH intake does look very good value.
for the money and the fact its almost s3 / cupra ready (just need to buy a 90 degree silicone reducer) i wouldn't argue. BUY one :)
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also just found the neuspeed one and the carbon engine cover(niiiiiiice) but lorra lorra moolah
anyone had experience with that
but am def interested in the bsh one now we have had some feedback on here
matsu
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any pics of the BSH one?
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in cuprak1 pic thread mate!
matsu
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any pics of the BSH one?
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i like that but i would cut a hole in that tray and run a duct to the grill on the golf :smiley:
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I dimagine that gets a good belting of air from the grill there with all the surrounds. Not to sure about the K04 take off to the DV though. Bit in your face or is that an additional mod.
All the bends look like they have been straightened out a little to improve flow which is good.
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i also like that alot. Is there a KO3 version? or are they the same?
Also dont like the take off hose!
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i like that but i would cut a hole in that tray and run a duct to the grill on the golf :smiley:
Shhhh ! im doing that lol my fogs have cracked and to be honest i never use them any way. so air duct here we come, only reason i havnt done it yet is that i need to disable fogs with vag come or the bulb out error comes up :(
it still sucks in plenty of air from the front of the car though (cut out some pointless plastic ontop of crash bar etc)
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i also like that alot. Is there a KO3 version? or are they the same?
Also dont like the take off hose!
it fits k03 yes just use the supplied bung to block up the hole where my red pipe goes :)
i like it :laugh: :laugh:
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I dimagine that gets a good belting of air from the grill there with all the surrounds. Not to sure about the K04 take off to the DV though. Bit in your face or is that an additional mod.
All the bends look like they have been straightened out a little to improve flow which is good.
thats my doing yes, you can use the oem hose if needed :P im blinging up my bay red thats my reason for hose
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i like that but i would cut a hole in that tray and run a duct to the grill on the golf :smiley:
Shhhh ! im doing that lol my fogs have cracked and to be honest i never use them any way. so air duct here we come, only reason i havnt done it yet is that i need to disable fogs with vag come or the bulb out error comes up :(
it still sucks in plenty of air from the front of the car though (cut out some pointless plastic ontop of crash bar etc)
im doing the same with my fogs.
how are you going to fix the ductinhg to the hole or will it just be left open
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i like that but i would cut a hole in that tray and run a duct to the grill on the golf :smiley:
Shhhh ! im doing that lol my fogs have cracked and to be honest i never use them any way. so air duct here we come, only reason i havnt done it yet is that i need to disable fogs with vag come or the bulb out error comes up :(
it still sucks in plenty of air from the front of the car though (cut out some pointless plastic ontop of crash bar etc)
im doing the same with my fogs.
how are you going to fix the ductinhg to the hole or will it just be left open
double sided tape or cable ties ? not sure yet
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my worry though is at speed when the air will be getting rammed in there big style it will need to be secured very well but to what thoughI need to havr a real good look at mine on a set of ramps i think
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my worry though is at speed when the air will be getting rammed in there big style it will need to be secured very well but to what thoughI need to havr a real good look at mine on a set of ramps i think
....You can buy inlets to attach hoses to : -
http://www.revotec.com/details.asp?ID=53
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cheers for thay robin. looks like that could be exatly what im after. At AMD today they had their Seat leon Dunlop sports cars there, they have similar thing but utilising cable ties. No doubt it works but looks a little scruffy
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Yeah, most full-on race car owners don't care two figs about how scruffy they look! There are exceptions of course.
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ive just read i could poss use an audi a4 engine cover as an alternative to cutting up a golf one.... has anyone heard/seen or used this?
found a great looking carbon one hee hee :rolleye:
matsu
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This seemed to work OK for me, and I kept my fog lights, I was venting my front discs but you could run the ducting anywhere. I have got the OSIR carbon grilles now which have a vent in them :happy2:
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This seemed to work OK for me, and I kept my fog lights, I was venting my front discs but you could run the ducting anywhere. I have got the OSIR carbon grilles now which have a vent in them
....Neil, are you running any ducting from your OSIR slot vents? (I've got those carbon panels too)
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has anyone tried the powertec? http://www.powertecfilters.co.uk/
had one on my previous car, sounds awsome and the filter is metal.
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Yes RR squeezed these in (Merlin Motorsport) behind the grille and conected to Forge SHV2-63 V2 Ducting. Seem to work OK, I haven't cracked another disc yet :happy2:
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^^^^
Cheers, Neil :drinking:
I'll PM you if I have any detailed questions about fixing.
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Neil, you just running ducting into the wheel well via the archliner or across the wishbone to the hib/disc?
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Yeh just put it through the liner and fixed it with cable ties, I have seen them strapped a lot closer to the disc, I think just getting some air circulating in the arch has got to help with cooling. :happy2:
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Deffo it all helps. I'm looking to expand on that, so will keep you informed with my tests. :happy2:
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Sorry to the OP about the thread deviation but, Neil, how have you attached the Merlinsport vent 'trumpets' to the back of the OSIR vent slots?
Btw, I've read somewhere that airflow into the wheel arches actually improves mpg! < Please correct me someone if I haven't got that quite right.
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Yeh just put it through the liner and fixed it with cable ties, I have seen them strapped a lot closer to the disc, I think just getting some air circulating in the arch has got to help with cooling. :happy2:
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prob is the dust shield will massively reduce the effect of the heat shield
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Yes RR squeezed these in (Merlin Motorsport) behind the grille and conected to Forge SHV2-63 V2 Ducting. Seem to work OK, I haven't cracked another disc yet :happy2:
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can you get a pic of this in position in the grill with the ducting please. I like the idea of this, but maybe with a y ytpe junction so i can get a hose onto air intake as well.
Sy :happy2:
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RR-this isnt a deviation, this is evolution of a thread that is educational to prob a few,but very much so to me... altho i got a bit lost with a few of the explanations lol :ashamed:
matsu
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RR-this isnt a deviation, this is evolution of a thread that is educational to prob a few,but very much so to me... altho i got a bit lost with a few of the explanations lol :ashamed:
matsu
.... :happy2: 8) :happy2: - Glad you see it that way. And it's your thread anyway.
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Sorry cant get a pic of it fixed in position, as RR knows the OSIR grilles are a bugger to fit and I ended up fixing mine on with mastic :confused:
I had to cut the trumpet about a bit to get it in the opening and its not fixed to the grille just strapped in position directly behind the vent and a jubilee clip to the ducting.
Can you do away with the dust shield? Not sure how much protection it gives now as its smaller than the Brembo disc.
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Can you do away with the dust shield? Not sure how much protection it gives now as its smaller than the Brembo disc.
....Do you mean 'stone guard' when you say 'dust shield'? It's not recommended to do away with that plate behind the disc AFAIK.
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Sorry cant get a pic of it fixed in position, as RR knows the OSIR grilles are a bugger to fit and I ended up fixing mine on with mastic :confused:
I had to cut the trumpet about a bit to get it in the opening and its not fixed to the grille just strapped in position directly behind the vent and a jubilee clip to the ducting.
....It's a pity that OSIR didn't consider their foglight panel and vents in a bit more depth and exploited the possibilities of actually venting some air to ducts more efficiently. A wasted opportunity imo. :sad1:
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Can you do away with the dust shield? Not sure how much protection it gives now as its smaller than the Brembo disc.
....Do you mean 'stone guard' when you say 'dust shield'? It's not recommended to do away with that plate behind the disc AFAIK.
Yeah, certainly for road use - although removing them/having a modified set for the track is a big advantage.
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Can you do away with the dust shield? Not sure how much protection it gives now as its smaller than the Brembo disc.
....Do you mean 'stone guard' when you say 'dust shield'? It's not recommended to do away with that plate behind the disc AFAIK.
Yeah, certainly for road use - although removing them/having a modified set for the track is a big advantage.
....Good to know that :happy2:. However, in my case I expect to only do a few trackdays a year and it's not practical for me to do any special prep work, not even tyres, on what is my road car. It's basically a 'Fast Road' car to have (safe and responsible) fun on the road and occasionally track as well. Your background and skills with doing your own stuff to cars enables you to do such things.
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Pic of my Dbilas, never had the change to do logs, but it goes well and sounds cool :happy2:
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Pic of my Dbilas,
^^ No pic posted ^^
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Pic of my Dbilas,
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Fixed :happy2:
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looked clean when i saw it down amd mike :) sounded nice too. Open cone ftw though :)
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looked clean when i saw it down amd mike :) sounded nice too. Open cone ftw though :)
I either sell the Dbilas for the ITG or wait till the new year and get the ITG and have Dbilas spare :)
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looked clean when i saw it down amd mike :) sounded nice too. Open cone ftw though :)
I either sell the Dbilas for the ITG or wait till the new year and get the ITG and have Dbilas spare :)
ps i modified my r8 cap so it sits straight :) and also going to get rid of the oil filler neck
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http://golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57809
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looked clean when i saw it down amd mike :) sounded nice too.
Oh and thanks :) Rest of the car was filthy though :sad1:
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Oh and thanks :) Rest of the car was filthy though :sad1:
well it had been driven from god knows where! :confused: