MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Garth on October 24, 2009, 01:24:14 pm
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Well,
I bought it about a month ago and it broke down the day after. It needed a new coil pack and spark plug which were replaced. Today the engine warning light has come on, which according to the manual is exhaust gas quality. Has anyone else had this and if so, was it something simple like a lamda sensor needing replaced?
In addition to this, the noise from the wheels is horrifc and I've already spent the best part of £500 sorting out the bodywork, glass and trim to get it looking good. Oh, and the airbag warning light is on (but that's my fault!).
Is it likely to be a painful ownership of this car??
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Well,
I bought it about a month ago and it broke down the day after. It needed a new coil pack and spark plug which were replaced. Today the engine warning light has come on, which according to the manual is exhaust gas quality. Has anyone else had this and if so, was it something simple like a lamda sensor needing replaced?
In addition to this, the noise from the wheels is horrifc and I've already spent the best part of £500 sorting out the bodywork, glass and trim to get it looking good. Oh, and the airbag warning light is on (but that's my fault!).
Is it likely to be a painful ownership of this car??
Was it playing up before you had the new coils and spark plugs fitted? How many miles has the car done, is it mapped?
Trouble with these cars is that one sensor can throw alot of things out. But im sure once all these little things are ironed out you will have plenty of trouble free motoring. :driver:
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It's done 58k miles (1k by me) and it's not mapped... yet!
When the plug and coil went, the car was fine, then all of a sudden on the A1 it just started sluttering, down to 3 cylinders. Once it was fixed, it has been fine since.
The way things are going now, I'm not going to get round to modding the car as all my money will go on fixing it!
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What tyres are on the car Garth??
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also engine light can mean a series of different things, where abouts you based, might be worthwhile geting vag com plugged in to see if any worthwhile fault codes come up.
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Front are continental sportcontact's with about 5mm tread, rears are one side sportcontact 2 (about 4mm) and one sportcontact 3 (about 6mm).
When I bought the car, the mixed set was on the front but I wanted even traction on the front so swapped them round. It was at this point the noise got MUCH worse, so I suspect that 1 or both of the front tyres have issues.
It may be down to the wheels as I can tell all 4 have been refurbed (looks like a pretty decent job) and the noise I'm getting is a constant drone but also a kind of whub, whub, whub sound which varies with speed. I thought it was the bearings until I swapped the wheels round
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Yes , get the car scanned with VCDS to see what fault(s) comes up.
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Tyres could be deformed, not sure on what the conti's go like on low tread.
Worth popping into a tyre shop and get it up on the ramps to inspect the tread etc
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also engine light can mean a series of different things, where abouts you based, might be worthwhile geting vag com plugged in to see if any worthwhile fault codes come up.
I'm in Leeds. You know anyone round here with VAG-COM? I have the older non CAN setup that will work on mk4 but not on the mk5. It'd be worth a few beer tokens to anyone who could sort me out :wink:
Thanks for all the speedy replies guys. Sometimes on the Beemer forums I used to use it took days to get 3 replies :grin:
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Front are continental sportcontact's with about 5mm tread, rears are one side sportcontact 2 (about 4mm) and one sportcontact 3 (about 6mm).
When I bought the car, the mixed set was on the front but I wanted even traction on the front so swapped them round. It was at this point the noise got MUCH worse, so I suspect that 1 or both of the front tyres have issues.
It may be down to the wheels as I can tell all 4 have been refurbed (looks like a pretty decent job) and the noise I'm getting is a constant drone but also a kind of whub, whub, whub sound which varies with speed. I thought it was the bearings until I swapped the wheels round
could be flat spot.
If you need new tyres get some goodyear eagle f1 assys of the web. Grip like sh*t to a blanket and are quiter than most.
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Tyres could be deformed, not sure on what the conti's go like on low tread.
Worth popping into a tyre shop and get it up on the ramps to inspect the tread etc
I gave all the tyres a good check when I had them off and they looked fine. I'm leaning towards deformed tyre as well. Maybe when they were removed and refitted for the refurb.
I had a set of michellin pilot sports removed from 1 set of wheels and put on another on my beemer and one of the rears developed some run out after this was done.
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Vredesteins gets my vote. Superb tyres, and relatively inexpensive :happy2: £85 a hit and worth considering if your spending out on larger alloys aswell :happy2:
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could be flat spot.
If you need new tyres get some goodyear eagle f1 assys of the web. Grip like sh*t to a blanket and are quiter than most.
Could well be. I'm not replacing the 17" tyres though, I'm going to get some new 18" wheels and tyres in a week or so (after pay day!)
Are the assymetrics much better than the directionals? I had some Eagle F1 GSD3's on my old S3 and the grip wasn't quite as good as the pilot sport 2's they replaced. Also the wear rate was shocking! :confused:
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PM Mortygttdi who's in Leeds for a VCDS scan.
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PM Mortygttdi who's in Leeds for a VCDS scan.
Cheers mate, don't think I can PM yet though. Is it 25 posts needed for this? I'll have to get posting. Might start my own build thread for all the stuff I've done and ging to do :happy2:
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Cheers Bacillus just seen this, I need to know what reg your car is, Im assuming your GTi is 54 plate Im also assuming that it is can-bus 2.0 and not 1.6? not an issue has I have vag commander which does 1.6 but dont really like using it for fault reading...
Let me know were you are in Leeds Garth and we can sort something out.
Darren
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It's done 58k miles (1k by me) and it's not mapped... yet!
The way things are going now, I'm not going to get round to modding the car as all my money will go on fixing it!
....It's much more important to get your car fixed and working right before doing any mods. Mods might just make it more difficult to diagnose your problems.
It's not 'the be and end all' to mod your GTI - It's an excellent car without any mods.
Re tyres - Don't mix them, especially on the same axle. It'll cost you much more than a pair or set of tyres if you end up in a hedge.
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get the wheels re balanced...and don't the conti's 2 and 3 have different tread patterns??
I'm one of those that really don't recommend having different make/type of tyre on a car, especially on same set of axle!
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The car is jinxed!!
For the first time in 14 years of modifying cars, I've had a car fall off the jack. It's completely destroyed the side skirt so now I need a new one of those as well. Gutted
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Cheers Bacillus just seen this, I need to know what reg your car is, Im assuming your GTi is 54 plate Im also assuming that it is can-bus 2.0 and not 1.6? not an issue has I have vag commander which does 1.6 but dont really like using it for fault reading...
Let me know were you are in Leeds Garth and we can sort something out.
Darren
Cheers mate. It's an 05 plate.
I live in Leeds so I'm here now :grin:
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get the wheels re balanced...and don't the conti's 2 and 3 have different tread patterns??
I'm one of those that really don't recommend having different make/type of tyre on a car, especially on same set of axle!
I'm ditching the wheels anyway so I'm not going to bother getting them balanced. And yes the tread a patterns are completely different hence the reason for swapping the matching 2 to the front.
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I'm one of those that really don't recommend having different make/type of tyre on a car, especially on same set of axle!
....For purely aesthetic reasons of course! :evilgrin: :wink:
But I agree. The ESP doesn't like it either and will randomly kick in when you least expect it - Not nice!
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I totally agree. And I also agree with you on getting the car working right before mods, hence the reason I've spent so much already getting it looking like it should.
I've been out and swapped each front wheel with the spare and taken it out for a drive to see if there's any difference on the noise/vibration and there isn't so I'm stumped now. It may be wheel bearings or brakes. This is getting expensive....
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Let me know were you are in Leeds Garth and we can sort something out.
Darren
Doh, I read that as WHEN I am in Leeds, not WHERE!
I live in Headingly. If you could help me out I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
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The car is jinxed!!
For the first time in 14 years of modifying cars, I've had a car fall off the jack. It's completely destroyed the side skirt so now I need a new one of those as well. Gutted
....I wish I had bookmarked that YouTube vid of an ad in which a guy is working under his car and his Jack Russell doggie comes along and thinks the jack's arm is a big stick to play with and swings from it lowering the jack! Anyone remember what the ad is for so I can find it?
Generally I'm getting the vibe from your posts in this thread that you aren't giving love to your car. Perhaps she would respond better if you sat cross legged alongside her and closed your eyes and focussed on having positive thoughts. Candles and smellies even. :evilgrin: :laugh:
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Generally I'm getting the vibe from your posts in this thread that you aren't giving love to your car. Perhaps she would respond better if you sat cross legged alongside her and closed your eyes and focussed on having positive thoughts. Candles and smellies even. :evilgrin: :laugh:
Quite the opposite actually... I've lavished care and attention on her since I bought her. I even spent 4 hours cleaning and conditioning the leather the weekend I bought it and the car actually looks mint (apart from the sideskirt now). Which is amazing considering it looked like sh*t when I bought it. The rear quarterlight had some scratches in it so I bought a new window from the VW dealer. I always maintain my cars regardless of cost. If I get so much as a scratch on the interior trim, then I buy a new piece... I don't like doing things by halves. The only problem now is I bought the car to save money, which probably won't happen :grin:
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The car is jinxed!! For the first time in 14 years of modifying cars, I've had a car fall off the jack.
:surprised:
I'm a complete muppet when it comes to hands-on with the car, but as of yet, I've never experienced a car falling off the jack. I presume you jacked it up at the reinforced point and used wheel chocks and applied the handbrake?
Don't let some of the issues get you down. I've had plenty of "mishaps" with the car and I've never regretted buying it - they joy of driving it (especially spirited runs) takes the pain away. Get it all sorted and then have some one on one time with the car and some B-roads!
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Sounds like your car has a bit of history to me. I hope I'm wrong. The VCDS scan should show up the electrical gremlins but the wheel noise is a bit odd. It could be so many things as I know from experience that wheel and suspension noises can travel through box sections of bodywork and end up sounding nothing like what you'd expect and hence you look in the wrong areas!
Contis are expensive and decent tyres but you could have a wrong 'un on there or the noise could be something caught in the brakes, a wheel bearing or a host of other things. Process of elimination required. If you're changing the wheels anyway you will soon see whether it's coming from there.
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Sounds like your car has a bit of history to me. I hope I'm wrong.
It's an ex-company car so you would have thought the servicing would be spot on if nothing else is...
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I'm a complete muppet when it comes to hands-on with the car, but as of yet, I've never experienced a car falling off the jack. I presume you jacked it up at the reinforced point and used wheel chocks and applied the handbrake?
Yeah, everything done properly. It was raining so the drive was slippy and it was as I was turning the jack, it just slipped on the ground. Luckily the wheel was still on the car and it's only cosmetic damage done. If I had the wheel off, it would have probably ruined the sill too.
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sounds like your cursed with bad luck, I'm sure all will be sorted and you will love her like max mosley loves nazi orgy's :grin:
good luck :happy2:
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Thanks guys.
Darren (mortygttdi) came round about an hour ago and checked out the car and it was an emissions problem. The light is cleared so we'll see how it goes. If the light comes back on at least I know what the problem is. Airbag light is also out now too :smiley:
A big thanks to Darren for coming round at such short notice. He also spotted that my car has electric folding mirrors which I hadn't even noticed :ashamed:
Now to sort the sideskirt, and the wheel noises...
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Thanks guys.
Darren (mortygttdi) came round about an hour ago and checked out the car and it was an emissions problem. The light is cleared so we'll see how it goes. If the light comes back on at least I know what the problem is. Airbag light is also out now too :smiley:
A big thanks to Darren for coming round at such short notice. He also spotted that my car has electric folding mirrors which I hadn't even noticed :ashamed:
Now to sort the sideskirt, and the wheel noises...
i had a mkv golf in last week & the owner said the n/s/r was making a funny noise like a wheel bearing..it turned out to be the tyre being distorted
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i had a mkv golf in last week & the owner said the n/s/r was making a funny noise like a wheel bearing..it turned out to be the tyre being distorted
Thanks mate, now I have to take off the rear wheels one at a time and try the spare on there too.
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No probs Garth let me know how things go, and nice spec GTi mate :happy2:
Darren
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try getting the wheels balanced
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Mat think I saw you going down York rd the other day going towards town centre?? I remember the white ed30 with the black roof :drool:
Darren
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yes mate that was me :drinking: blooming filthy now :ashamed: