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Title: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: PhilGeezer on June 27, 2014, 11:40:14 pm
Anybody used Automotive Diagnostic Solutions based in Preston and another company called VolkService in blackpool?
Thinking of using them but wondered if anyone had experience with them before?.... Any good????
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Post by: jason_rmh on June 28, 2014, 06:28:56 am
I've used volkservice for servicing for the past three years, Inc major service / cambelt / water pump.
Courtesy car free of charge if you book in advance.
Friendly guys to deal with not had any problems.

Jas
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Post by: Bignod00 on June 28, 2014, 10:28:35 am
Not used either but I've worked with ADS at the last two GTI International event's and they're great guys. Really keen to help and a great attitude towards the customer! :happy2:
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: PhilGeezer on June 28, 2014, 11:35:01 am
Spot on!  :happy2: Cheers guys. Glad to hear theres some good local tuners! Time to get my stage 1 booked me thinks....Avit!   :driver:
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 28, 2014, 12:35:08 pm
Spot on!  :happy2: Cheers guys. Glad to hear theres some good local tuners! Time to get my stage 1 booked me thinks....Avit!   :driver:

Looking at the reviews they sound good for garage work. It's hard to judge how good they are at tuning cars from how well they can drain oil and bolt on exhausts?

Is it their own map, or written by some guy in china (whose probably never seen a mk5 GTI   :laugh:)

Awesome GTI sell remaps, but it's isn't written by them it's just a cheap generic code with their name on it.

Perhaps ask them a few questions and understand more about the map. A good question is if they log the car with VCDS to see if the car is happy with what is being asked of it - particularly if you have mods, you want to know how the map is adapting to an intake or exhaust.

I say this as only the other day someone had a generic map installed, it wasn't making good power and was massively overfuelling  :scared:
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: xjay1337 on June 28, 2014, 12:47:02 pm
I spoke to Awesome GTI when a friend got his 1.9 Jetta TDI mapped as part of their £150 flash on deal

I asked if they had a similar deal for the GTI.

Was told if I'm not paying "at least £500 for a map it's crap"

"niki at rtech charges under 300 for a stage 1 map"

"well all i'm saying is if you want the quality you have to pay for it"

really??  :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 28, 2014, 12:51:42 pm
 :signLOL:

They are all about the big brands though, and keep flicking between Revo & APR dependant on who offers them the best deal.

They no nothing about proper engine tuning (or management of their inventory  :laugh:), only how to bolt on parts and sell people brands
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: PhilGeezer on June 28, 2014, 11:25:00 pm
Well im going to have t go and ask them whose map they are using...or whether it is generic, as i agree, a bespoke map to the car is what i would prefer.
I think awesome gti costs quite a bit as like you say, theyre selling the brand, so they have to pay for the map then whack their money on top!
...So really your paying for them to be the middle man.  :signLOL:
If awesome say "if your not paying £500 for a map then its crap" then if they stand by that statement then they must buy crap maps as they themselves dont pay £500!
I really want a bespoke map but i want someone with a decent reputation as i dont want just any 'tuner' messing with my car.  :scared:
i wouldnt mind finding a decent independent tuner.
At £300 Rtech seems reasonable to be fair but theyre pretty far away from me.
I thought theyre might have been a mk5 specialist tuner on here????
I want more of a torque increase than bhp to be honest.
I think im going to go to ADS and Volkservice this week and discuss what they offer, i will report back and see what you guys think of theyre answers!  :happy2:

Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 28, 2014, 11:57:03 pm
^wow that sig pic is big  :grin:

If your not happy with their answer, fill your tank up with V-Power, get a decent playlist on your iPod and take a road trip to R-Tech  :drinking:

People have driven 5hrs each way to get a map from R-Tech. Speaks volumes
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: PhilGeezer on June 29, 2014, 12:21:43 am
 :signLOL: i dunno how to make the sig pic smaller!
i suppose id have a good test of the map on the way back  :driver:
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: PhilGeezer on June 29, 2014, 12:25:53 am
worked it out  :happy2:
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: AndrewJB on June 29, 2014, 02:40:34 am

I thought theyre might have been a mk5 specialist tuner on here????


There is his name is Niki, AKA R-TECH

He's a 1.8T and 2.0TFSI specialist     Master

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: gazbutS3 on June 29, 2014, 07:13:31 pm
ADS are a Revo sealer too aren't they?
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: PhilGeezer on June 29, 2014, 11:57:18 pm
Yeah i think your right there mate, im going to go and have a chat with both places this week and see what they say
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: edd666999 on June 30, 2014, 03:07:20 am
Go to GNJ Motorsport instead, IMO best garage around here :)

They sell Shark Performace remaps and they also have a guy that maps while the car is on rollers.

Im from Preston BTW.
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: PhilGeezer on June 30, 2014, 03:26:49 am
Spot on mate, cheers  :happy2:
ill have a look into them as an option aswel, be good to get it on the rollers and see the true output they can get it to  :grin:
theres a place in poulton called pro tune aswel but ive never heard of them so not sure of their reputation tbh
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: PhilGeezer on June 30, 2014, 03:27:59 am
is GNJ motorsport in blackburn?
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: edd666999 on June 30, 2014, 03:38:46 am
is GNJ motorsport in blackburn?

Yeah. Well worth the extra 5 mins drive trust me. Wish I went there the day I bought my car, instead of bouncing round all the other tuners in our area looking for someone that's not out to "just" make money.
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: PhilGeezer on June 30, 2014, 04:44:35 am
how much do GNJ charge for a stage 1?
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: edd666999 on June 30, 2014, 04:45:38 am
how much do GNJ charge for a stage 1?


Drop them a message on Facebook or give them a call, Mention me, they'll charge you more  :grin:
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: xjay1337 on July 01, 2014, 12:54:12 am
^wow that sig pic is big  :grin:

If your not happy with their answer, fill your tank up with V-Power, get a decent playlist on your iPod and take a road trip to R-Tech  :drinking:

People have driven 5hrs each way to get a map from R-Tech. Speaks volumes

Exactly.
People expect the good things to be close by and get scared of a bit of a drive... why?????

I drove 450 mile round trip for a 20 minute map tweak at Darkside Developments when I had my TDI.

Rtech are about 110 miles from me and it doesn't bother me one bit to be honest, besides let's say a Revo map is £500 and 2 minutes away but Rtech are £300 and a long way away... you'd need to be 1200 miles away to make it CHEAPER to buy a Revo map.. OK I understand perhaps not everyone wants to drive 5+ hours for a map but it makes sense... hence why I've waited over a year before mapping to get everything done right first time and go straight to stage 2

if you don't want to travel fine but prepare to pay more and perhaps not have the absolute best, although that being said many people are happy with their revo/apr map and that's fine for them :)
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on July 01, 2014, 08:02:29 am
:signLOL:

They are all about the big brands though, and keep flicking between Revo & APR dependant on who offers them the best deal.

They no nothing about proper engine tuning (or management of their inventory  :laugh:), only how to bolt on parts and sell people brands

Not quite sure who you're on about ADS or awesome

Frank at ADS has bailed Audi out on more than one occasion (and I don't just mean Audi Preston)  there is nobody out there that knows more about engine tuning and management than Mr Massey, his tool of the trade is an oscilloscope and I'm not kidding. he teaches teachers about about engine management

Awesome changed from REVO to APR once in the last 13 yeaars

Dave Massey is a mate, he knows his shnizzle
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: vRSAlex on July 01, 2014, 08:11:37 am
:signLOL:

They are all about the big brands though, and keep flicking between Revo & APR dependant on who offers them the best deal.

They no nothing about proper engine tuning (or management of their inventory  :laugh:), only how to bolt on parts and sell people brands

Not quite sure who you're on about ADS or awesome

Frank at ADS has bailed Audi out on more than one occasion (and I don't just mean Audi Preston)  there is nobody out there that knows more about engine tuning and management than Mr Massey, his tool of the trade is an oscilloscope and I'm not kidding. he teaches teachers about about engine management

Awesome changed from REVO to APR once in the last 13 yeaars

Dave Massey is a mate, he knows his shnizzle

Dave gives great hugs too!  :love:

Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on July 01, 2014, 08:39:46 am
Not as good as yours big boy

(According to your Mrs) aherrrm......
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: PhilGeezer on July 01, 2014, 10:49:10 am
^wow that sig pic is big  :grin:

If your not happy with their answer, fill your tank up with V-Power, get a decent playlist on your iPod and take a road trip to R-Tech  :drinking:

People have driven 5hrs each way to get a map from R-Tech. Speaks volumes

Exactly.
People expect the good things to be close by and get scared of a bit of a drive... why?????

I drove 450 mile round trip for a 20 minute map tweak at Darkside Developments when I had my TDI.

Rtech are about 110 miles from me and it doesn't bother me one bit to be honest, besides let's say a Revo map is £500 and 2 minutes away but Rtech are £300 and a long way away... you'd need to be 1200 miles away to make it CHEAPER to buy a Revo map.. OK I understand perhaps not everyone wants to drive 5+ hours for a map but it makes sense... hence why I've waited over a year before mapping to get everything done right first time and go straight to stage 2

if you don't want to travel fine but prepare to pay more and perhaps not have the absolute best, although that being said many people are happy with their revo/apr map and that's fine for them :)

Exactly... in a TDI  signLOL

I know what you mean though mate and can see where your coming from but i want to use a local company so they can work on my car from standard upto however far i take it.
...support the local tuners  drinking

it will only be close by if i need any tweeks then  :happy2:
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on July 01, 2014, 10:58:45 am
:signLOL:

They are all about the big brands though, and keep flicking between Revo & APR dependant on who offers them the best deal.

They no nothing about proper engine tuning (or management of their inventory  :laugh:), only how to bolt on parts and sell people brands

Not quite sure who you're on about ADS or awesome

Frank at ADS has bailed Audi out on more than one occasion (and I don't just mean Audi Preston)  there is nobody out there that knows more about engine tuning and management than Mr Massey, his tool of the trade is an oscilloscope and I'm not kidding. he teaches teachers about about engine management

Awesome changed from REVO to APR once in the last 13 yeaars

Dave Massey is a mate, he knows his shnizzle

I was on about Awesome, Dave.

Can't comment on ADS, but if they are half as good as you say they are then I imagine they are more knowledgable than Awesome for the workings of an engine.

Awesome have a reasonable rep for bolting parts on (although they have made a mistake every time I've been to them), but if you ask them why your getting -7 timing pull at 4000rpm I don't think they would be able to explain why.  :signLOL:

I remember Awesome were APR when John'o on here had his mapped, then went to Revo, then went back to APR about 3-4yrs ago.
Title: Re: Tuning company reviews - ADS / VolkService
Post by: PhilGeezer on July 01, 2014, 10:59:56 am
:signLOL:

They are all about the big brands though, and keep flicking between Revo & APR dependant on who offers them the best deal.

They no nothing about proper engine tuning (or management of their inventory  :laugh:), only how to bolt on parts and sell people brands

Not quite sure who you're on about ADS or awesome

Frank at ADS has bailed Audi out on more than one occasion (and I don't just mean Audi Preston)  there is nobody out there that knows more about engine tuning and management than Mr Massey, his tool of the trade is an oscilloscope and I'm not kidding. he teaches teachers about about engine management

Awesome changed from REVO to APR once in the last 13 yeaars

Dave Massey is a mate, he knows his shnizzle

Sounds like i might have to go and have a chat with ADS  :happy2:
Does he do bespoke maps or use generic ones?

As for bailing Audi out.... They arent exactly the sharpest tools in the box! I used to valet for vw/audi and seat a few years ago (until direct valeting got their mitts on the contracts and took all the money out of it!  :fighting:) and we used to have a right laugh,, dont know who was worse the sales people, the managers or the mechanics there! They were always getting something wrong! absolutely clueless... luckily the people who bought audis werent exactly any smarter  :grin: