MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: chudds on July 06, 2014, 07:13:39 pm

Title: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: chudds on July 06, 2014, 07:13:39 pm
I have just gone stage 2+ and absolutely love it but my friend suggested that I remove the battery and install a fq300 Evo turbo facing forwards in is place instead of just sticking a k04 on it...

Now please no comments saying just put a k04 on it as i want some thing differant!

Now if I go for a fq300 turbo it's much more reliable then running the k03 at full whack. Now what I'm thinking is I should be able to still run the apr stage 2 map as it's just going to use the n75 to control the boost and it's similar flowing to what the k03 is producing it just doesn't have to work as hard...

But then there is potential to run an apexi boost controller and go higher then 300, but also I should be able to run the k04 software as again flow similar to a k04 on stage 1 say...

Can any one find fault with this also can any one point me in the direction how to run a Boost controller and delete the n75 and run an external waste gate on the tubular manifold?! 
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on July 06, 2014, 07:48:51 pm
Would the Evo turbo fit on the manifold?

If you want to go different, there are plenty of turbos that bolt straight on and will be supported by APR.

I doubt APR do an "off the shelf" map for a K03 GTI with an Evo's turbo bolted on, you would probably have to go for a custom map.

Using your K03's map with a boost controller just wouldn't work properly, the spool characteristics would be well out for starters.

I like your thinking with going for something different, but it would be a right PITA  :scared:
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: chudds on July 06, 2014, 08:00:54 pm
No it'd be a tubular manifold to mount it at the side... Then leaves me the ability to go to other bigger garret turbos if I wanted.

Wouldn't I need stand alone ecu to run a custom map?! Or can it be written and flashed?! As for a pain in the arse my friend builds manifolds and alsorts of fabrication and I do cad drawings in return for him... So nothing is impossible.

Would apr dignify me with a respone if I emailed them directly?!
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: dan930 on July 06, 2014, 08:19:59 pm
No it'd be a tubular manifold to mount it at the side... Then leaves me the ability to go to other bigger garret turbos if I wanted.

Wouldn't I need stand alone ecu to run a custom map?! Or can it be written and flashed?! As for a pain in the arse my friend builds manifolds and alsorts of fabrication and I do cad drawings in return for him... So nothing is impossible.

Would apr dignify me with a respone if I emailed them directly?!

Tbh it's a waste of time emailing APR,get a custom map from rtech..
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: chudds on July 06, 2014, 08:22:39 pm
I shall flick them an email :)

Something similar to this but a mirror image...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fae36%2FLeroy_Chadwick%2F8B223996-5B57-43E9-92CD-CC31A71CD748_zpsvzwyhipf.jpg&hash=64d0452cdb7d71aaa392c188af9c4a54efe73996)
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: dan930 on July 06, 2014, 09:53:13 pm
I shall flick them an email :)

Something similar to this but a mirror image...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fae36%2FLeroy_Chadwick%2F8B223996-5B57-43E9-92CD-CC31A71CD748_zpsvzwyhipf.jpg&hash=64d0452cdb7d71aaa392c188af9c4a54efe73996)

Looks very good,is there enough space to fit inside the mk5 engine bay?
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: SurreyED30 on July 06, 2014, 11:36:46 pm
If this build actually happens I'll be glued to it 24/7  :party:
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: chudds on July 07, 2014, 07:12:16 am
There is more then enough room if I stick the battery in the boot :) the turbos are quite cheap to pick up around the £150 mark so it's mostly materials and time...

I emailed r tech last night but seems straight forward enough with a rolling road remap and 2 boost settings is around £630 which ain't to shabby but my limiting factor is my injectors... I don't know what the will do on there own...
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: dan930 on July 07, 2014, 12:11:13 pm
There is more then enough room if I stick the battery in the boot :) the turbos are quite cheap to pick up around the £150 mark so it's mostly materials and time...

I emailed r tech last night but seems straight forward enough with a rolling road remap and 2 boost settings is around £630 which ain't to shabby but my limiting factor is my injectors... I don't know what the will do on there own...

Speak to Aks tuning about the injectors,I'm sure Alex would be able to sort you out mate
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: chudds on July 07, 2014, 01:20:58 pm
I shall email them and see what the deal is!

R tech got back to me this morning wanting all the detailes including my inside leg measurement haha so I need to do all my research before I get back to them really! And I need a realistic bhp figure for them to work with... But not sure on that just yet...
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: rich83 on July 07, 2014, 01:25:48 pm
I think those long manifolds look a right mess if I am being honest.  :sick:
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: dan930 on July 07, 2014, 02:43:32 pm
What power yr aiming mate?
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: chudds on July 07, 2014, 03:44:26 pm
Each to there own but the craftsmanship that goes into a good manifold can't be denied!

Tbh I'm not sure I always wanted to hit 300 I'm at circa 280 now but more then any thing I want to build something differant that's why I don't want anyone piping up and saying just stick a k04 on it...

If I could get 300 and 320 on high boost on 94 Ron I'd be chuffed to bits!
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: betty_swollox on July 07, 2014, 05:09:02 pm
Each to there own but the craftsmanship that goes into a good manifold can't be denied!

Tbh I'm not sure I always wanted to hit 300 I'm at circa 280 now but more then any thing I want to build something differant that's why I don't want anyone piping up and saying just stick a k04 on it...

If I could get 300 and 320 on high boost on 94 Ron I'd be chuffed to bits!

lol I really don't get why you want a bigger turbo if you only want 300BHP :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: betty_swollox on July 07, 2014, 05:31:23 pm
P.S I am not knockin your idea, I like that you want to have a different turbo etc, but I would only do that if I was chasing big power :driver:
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: chudds on July 07, 2014, 05:56:51 pm
The plan is that I can then take this manifold on to a mk6 r and put a big barstewards twin scroll turbo on it and get full use of the traction :) any more then 300 and it will just spin so that's pointless chasing 400bhp in a fwd

I know some people won't get it but it will work out cheaper or very similar to a k04 kit but be so much nicer :)
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: chudds on July 07, 2014, 07:38:05 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fae36%2FLeroy_Chadwick%2F7BCB4274-C757-4503-A92C-E001884D3018_zpsby3l4sc6.jpg&hash=f7b1c3b7c0ec41bdd3f15713f988c1bfb6a6c9ec)

This has to do something for you or is it just an engineer thing! Haha
Title: Re: Front facing Evo turbo...
Post by: greygti on July 07, 2014, 08:07:53 pm
It's an engineer thing lol ! Looks to be some sweet welding that