MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: Dang on July 08, 2014, 12:03:26 pm

Title: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: Dang on July 08, 2014, 12:03:26 pm
I know this has been touched on many times before and reading into this R-tech look like the guys to go to but just wondered if there is anywhere closer to home that will offer an equally good custom map and service at a decent price. I'm based in Reading but commute to Portsmouth most weeks. I was also thinking about getting an intake and deleting the pre cat before the map, will this increase my gains significantly?
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: Saintsteve on July 08, 2014, 12:09:44 pm
JKM and Revo in Portsmouth, but Revo are twice the price for an equivalent RTech remap... Your choice ;-)
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: Dang on July 08, 2014, 12:14:44 pm
When you look at it like that IMO it's a no brainier! Let's add some mileage to the car!
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on July 08, 2014, 08:09:03 pm
When you look at it like that IMO it's a no brainier! Let's add some mileage to the car!

You won't regret it!

Think how much fun the drive home will be  :driver:
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: adminkatana on July 08, 2014, 08:18:40 pm
I've been offered 30% off a Revo Stage 1 for a KO3 GTI. I was previously set on getting a Bluefin, but now they are pretty much the same price it's a hard choice. Just can't make my mind up even after reading through many many threads on here.

Seeing as there isn't the usual price advantage of Bluefin over Revo is that what you'd go for?
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: demon110178 on July 08, 2014, 08:24:51 pm
Iam in this position as well thought about a bluefin but heard bad reviews on them how much is airtec remap and are they any good
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: MC71 on July 08, 2014, 08:57:20 pm
Iam in this position as well thought about a bluefin but heard bad reviews on them how much is airtec remap and are they any good


I've been offered 30% off a Revo Stage 1 for a KO3 GTI. I was previously set on getting a Bluefin, but now they are pretty much the same price it's a hard choice. Just can't make my mind up even after reading through many many threads on here.

Seeing as there isn't the usual price advantage of Bluefin over Revo is that what you'd go for?


Avoid Blufin, not great maps and both your cars are capable of achieving so much more.

R-Tech.....end of.  :wink:

A custom map with many unique features, some for everyone from Stage 1 and some for more modded cars at stage 2, stage 2+ and beyond. TIV maps, LBK VVT maps, linear, progressive, DSG maps, switchable maps, Traction control mapping blah blah blah.

Have a look around the R-Tech section and read some reviews/write up. You'll not find an unhappy customer no matter how hard you look. Its worth the journey, no matter where you are and the cost is more than comparable to the generic maps from REVO, APR etc.


Any more info please feel fee to PM me.

Happy modding.

Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: adminkatana on July 08, 2014, 09:12:12 pm
Thanks!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: dan930 on July 08, 2014, 09:17:35 pm
R tech...... :happy2:
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: demon110178 on July 08, 2014, 09:33:13 pm
Iam in this position as well thought about a bluefin but heard bad reviews on them how much is airtec remap and are they any good


I've been offered 30% off a Revo Stage 1 for a KO3 GTI. I was previously set on getting a Bluefin, but now they are pretty much the same price it's a hard choice. Just can't make my mind up even after reading through many many threads on here.

Seeing as there isn't the usual price advantage of Bluefin over Revo is that what you'd go for?


Avoid Blufin, not great maps and both your cars are capable of achieving so much more.

R-Tech.....end of.  :wink:

A custom map with many unique features, some for everyone from Stage 1 and some for more modded cars at stage 2, stage 2+ and beyond. TIV maps, LBK VVT maps, linear, progressive, DSG maps, switchable maps, Traction control mapping blah blah blah.

Have a look around the R-Tech section and read some reviews/write up. You'll not find an unhappy customer no matter how hard you look. Its worth the journey, no matter where you are and the cost is more than comparable to the generic maps from REVO, APR etc.


Any more info please feel fee to PM me.

Happy modding.

Cheers bud will ring them tomorrow  :happy2:


Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: MC71 on July 08, 2014, 09:34:47 pm
R tech...... :happy2:

Speaking of R-Tech. Any news buddy?  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: Dang on July 08, 2014, 09:46:12 pm
Yeah def going to give them a call, I like the idea of being able to map the ED30 to how I like to drive it, maybe even a dsg remap could be on the cards aswell. Will an intake and precat delete add much overall?
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: MC71 on July 08, 2014, 10:24:46 pm
^^^^ Somewhere around 320 bhp and ft lb probably. A decent TBE would benefit your car as would a intercooler and HPFP.
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: Dang on July 08, 2014, 10:36:39 pm
Nice, such a shame I've got a big bonus coming the end of this month  :laugh:
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: motogp46 on July 08, 2014, 11:38:47 pm
There's always The Phirm at Hook, so you probably go near them on your way to Portsmouth. Give Tim a ring, he's got loads of knowledge. They offer Revo, did mine and I'm very pleased. Great service.
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: rich83 on July 09, 2014, 01:03:53 am
^^^^ Somewhere around 320 bhp and ft lb probably. A decent TBE would benefit your car as would a intercooler and HPFP.


320bhp is unlikely without a 3" downpipe.
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: MC71 on July 09, 2014, 06:19:37 am
^^^^ (I'm guessing)  :wink:
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: SurreyED30 on July 09, 2014, 08:08:57 am
you can kiss that bonus good bye on this forum mate  :grin:
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: dan930 on July 09, 2014, 12:20:42 pm
R tech...... :happy2:

Speaking of R-Tech. Any news buddy?  :popcornsoda:

it's nearly finished,jussa been in it & says its mental...
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: Dang on July 09, 2014, 12:28:48 pm
All booked in for Aug20th stage 1 plus dsg remap
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: MC71 on July 09, 2014, 01:14:13 pm
R tech...... :happy2:

Speaking of R-Tech. Any news buddy?  :popcornsoda:

it's nearly finished,jussa been in it & says its mental...

Your misses WILL notice this mate!! Your not going to be able to hide it.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on July 09, 2014, 08:04:04 pm
R tech...... :happy2:

Speaking of R-Tech. Any news buddy?  :popcornsoda:

it's nearly finished,jussa been in it & says its mental...

What is Jussa doing at R-Tech?

Is he changing maps?
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: chipmunk82 on July 14, 2014, 08:55:25 pm
I'm also planning on an R-tech map plus induction and pre-cat removal, but my main concern is that the clutch won't handle it?
Makes it seem a lot more expensive in my mind  :confused:
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: betty_swollox on July 14, 2014, 09:24:55 pm
I'm also planning on an R-tech map plus induction and pre-cat removal, but my main concern is that the clutch won't handle it?
Makes it seem a lot more expensive in my mind  :confused:


I'm running APR stage 2 on original OEM clutch/DMF so don't worry lol
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: dan930 on July 14, 2014, 09:59:42 pm
R tech...... :happy2:

Speaking of R-Tech. Any news buddy?  :popcornsoda:

it's nearly finished,jussa been in it & says its mental...

What is Jussa doing at R-Tech?

Is he changing maps?

He brought & fitted a loba 4xx to his s3 & r-tech are mapping it
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: edition30jmr on July 15, 2014, 12:12:03 am
I'm also planning on an R-tech map plus induction and pre-cat removal, but my main concern is that the clutch won't handle it?
Makes it seem a lot more expensive in my mind  :confused:


I'm running APR stage 2 on original OEM clutch/DMF so don't worry lol

How many miles has your car done? If you don't mind me asking!? :D
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: betty_swollox on July 15, 2014, 02:12:30 am
I'm also planning on an R-tech map plus induction and pre-cat removal, but my main concern is that the clutch won't handle it?
Makes it seem a lot more expensive in my mind  :confused:


I'm running APR stage 2 on original OEM clutch/DMF so don't worry lol

How many miles has your car done? If you don't mind me asking!? :D

just under 30k

has had stage 1 on since the car was like 6 months old
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: chipmunk82 on July 15, 2014, 05:21:30 pm
I'm also planning on an R-tech map plus induction and pre-cat removal, but my main concern is that the clutch won't handle it?
Makes it seem a lot more expensive in my mind  :confused:


I'm running APR stage 2 on original OEM clutch/DMF so don't worry lol

That's not the norm though is it? Mine is on 48k
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: Saintsteve on July 15, 2014, 09:13:36 pm
I'm also planning on an R-tech map plus induction and pre-cat removal, but my main concern is that the clutch won't handle it?
Makes it seem a lot more expensive in my mind  :confused:


I'm running APR stage 2 on original OEM clutch/DMF so don't worry lol



That's not the norm though is it? Mine is on 48k

2 factors to consider......
1... is the remap and torque curve that the map delivers
2...The Driver

 :innocent:
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: betty_swollox on July 15, 2014, 10:10:29 pm

2...The Driver



defo the main thing

Take it easy on the clutch and it'll last longer
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: chipmunk82 on July 15, 2014, 11:14:58 pm

2...The Driver



defo the main thing

Take it easy on the clutch and it'll last longer

It sounds like you've had yours from new, mine is still quite low mileage at 48k but I've only had it for 1k of that!
No control over the previous owners driving so the clutch risk is higher, depends how worn it is already but hopefully not too bad as standard as long as it's not been remapped and put back to standard for a sale!

Hard to define a driving style but I tend to prefer the kick of 2nd and 3rd rather than pushing the torque to 6th gear all the time or top end speed
My plans are for the precat removal, induction and an R-tech map so hopefully about 310bhp
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: MC71 on July 15, 2014, 11:49:47 pm
^^^^ Plan on a new uprated clutch and if one is not needed, all the better, you've pocketed £1k.

Some clutches go at stage 1 (straight away) and some are fine with stage 2+.
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: betty_swollox on July 15, 2014, 11:58:31 pm

2...The Driver



defo the main thing

Take it easy on the clutch and it'll last longer

It sounds like you've had yours from new, mine is still quite low mileage at 48k but I've only had it for 1k of that!
No control over the previous owners driving so the clutch risk is higher, depends how worn it is already but hopefully not too bad as standard as long as it's not been remapped and put back to standard for a sale!

Hard to define a driving style but I tend to prefer the kick of 2nd and 3rd rather than pushing the torque to 6th gear all the time or top end speed
My plans are for the precat removal, induction and an R-tech map so hopefully about 310bhp

No I bought mine 2nd hand and I am the 3rd owner. Like I said, it has been stage 1 since the car was less than 6 months old

so its done 26k at stage 1 pretty much and then another 2k at stage 2 and it isnt slipping

if you drop a gear like you say you do then your clutch should last longer. its the ppl that hoof the car in 3rd gear at 30mph that kill their clutch/dmf
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: adminkatana on July 17, 2014, 12:14:00 am
A friend sold me a bluefin the other day for a very good price. For the limited mods I'd like to do to the car it makes sense for me.

Uploaded it to my K03 GTI all ok and car does feel much much more responsive and with a lot more oomph. Having never driven or been in a Stage 1 GTI before though just wanted to ask something.

The car pulls away nicely, feels similar to the standard map at low revs. When it reaches ~2.5-3k rpm you do notice much more than the standard map a sudden shove of acceleration, from there on it's smooth power towards the red line. I assume it's the turbo kicking in, it just feels quite different to the standard map in the way you suddenly shoot off. Good fun, just different.

Does this sound normal? am I just being paranoid about a 75k car blowing up with whats considered quite a tame map?

Thanks for your advice.
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on July 17, 2014, 07:38:33 am
Bluefin is far from a tame map, and has been proven to max out the turbo on the K04 maps. If Superchips take the same approach to the K03 maps as they do for the K04 then a huge kick of boost sounds perfectly normal.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,65077.0.html
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: adminkatana on July 17, 2014, 03:40:28 pm
Bluefin is far from a tame map, and has been proven to max out the turbo on the K04 maps. If Superchips take the same approach to the K03 maps as they do for the K04 then a huge kick of boost sounds perfectly normal.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,65077.0.html



Thanks for your help.

I was hoping to go up to R-Tech, the reviews on here are fantastic. But seeing as I was only going Stage 1 and I got the Bluefin for a very low price it seemed like a good idea.

I went down to my local garage this morning and person there used to have a remapped A3, he said it feels completely normal for a Stage 1. It's very smooth, just surprising how the power comes on compared to the standard map. It was just me worrying as I'd never driven or been in a mapped car before. It really changes the car, very nice to drive, can only imagine what some of the higher bhp Ed30's/R's must feel like!  :smiley:

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: edition30jmr on July 17, 2014, 06:18:02 pm
Bluefin is far from a tame map, and has been proven to max out the turbo on the K04 maps. If Superchips take the same approach to the K03 maps as they do for the K04 then a huge kick of boost sounds perfectly normal.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,65077.0.html



Thanks for your help.


I was hoping to go up to R-Tech, the reviews on here are fantastic. But seeing as I was only going Stage 1 and I got the Bluefin for a very low price it seemed like a good idea.

I went down to my local garage this morning and person there used to have a remapped A3, he said it feels completely normal for a Stage 1. It's very smooth, just surprising how the power comes on compared to the standard map. It was just me worrying as I'd never driven or been in a mapped car before. It really changes the car, very nice to drive, can only imagine what some of the higher bhp Ed30's/R's must feel like!  :smiley:

Thanks again!

Let me know how you get on with the bluefin when it's installed! Is yours manual or dsg?
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: adminkatana on July 18, 2014, 12:36:02 pm
It's a Manual K03 GTI.

Seems to be working very nicely. Had I not got such a good price though I'd definitely go up to R-Tech.
Title: Re: Who should I use to remap my ED30 to stage 1?
Post by: audiman on August 03, 2014, 08:33:57 am
MRC Tuning in Banbury everytime for me. They have mapped every car I have owned over the last 10 years. Always helpful, always provide a great driving experience.