MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: cuprajake on July 15, 2014, 09:48:22 pm
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Hey guys
Thinking of coming back to the 2.0tfis family, be it ed30/s3/cupra
I'm liking the idea of dsg but know nothing about it.
What are the down falls, things to look for etc?
Jake
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u for real lol?????
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u for real lol?????
Yes he is. :signLOL:
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I sold my MK5 GTI with DSG after 6 month because i kept falling asleep at the wheel. What a snooze fest :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda:
Now have a MK6 GTi with MANual, so much better :driver: :driver:
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What can I say,
Never own your dream car, it will only end in disappointment.
The spec c is a great car, but I still feel the cupra would of wasted it, then you couple in the better build, creature comforts etc. I shouldn't of got rid. But when one of your dream cars comes up you gotta try,
Tbh there's not much for sale at the moment,
Ideally I'd like an s3, but 90% come with a crap interior
Or
Red or black ed30, would need to have sat nav and xenons
Or a fl cupra or r if in budget,
The Quattro is swaying me though as the leon was a bit trigger happy lol
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Owned a 310Bhp ED30 with DSG
&
Stock manual KO3 GTI
Both great transmissions. DSG can get boring sometimes due to lack of involvement but it's very affective and DSG farts are epic. Manual is what it is, great gearbox and very quick and snappy..
Drive both & decide
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At least you have owned a dream car of your choice & have then made your own mind up - I always tend to read in the press (well, Evo magazine!) that the iconic hero cars don't always live up to expectation! Better to have tried it than not, I reckon!
I've noticed that mk6 R's have started coming down in price - got me thinking, and then thought they are still too much money...
Oh, and back to your original question, DSG vs. manual - how quickly would you like to change gears? DSG can be the only answer (IMHO)! I tend to mostly drive my DSG as manual, just to use engine braking and stifle its need to get into as high a gear as possible... And when the traffic is bad, just shift it into D and rest that clutch foot...
Good to see you back Jake :drinking:
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It's a good car, just think I expected way too much lol
I've always been manual, bar my sorento which can hardly be compared to dsg, my main worry is it cocking up and being ££££££££ to fix.
What should I be looking for on test drives, costs on serving etc
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If you ask 10 different people you'll get 10 different answers. My opinion is this: how many times are you really going to be driving on the limit of the car, such that that extra 1% of driver involvement is going to make a difference? DSG gives you nearly a full over-ride (it won't let you over-rev or stall) but you can leave it in D when you're doing a road trip or are stuck in traffic. It also comes with a launch control feature meaning you'll beat a manual off the line every single time, and it supposedly has better fuel economy (but I'm not sure I believe that). To me it really is having your cake and eating it too.
Things to look out for - well make sure it's been serviced on time and every time. This is around 40k miles/5 years. When test driving make sure that it is smooth and not jerky. This might be signs that the mechatronics unit is on its way out, and that's an £800 fix. There was a faulty batch around MY08 so I'd just generally stay away from cars from around then unless it's been replaced already.
Also if you plan on doing any tuning you don't need to alter the DSG gearbox unless you go big turbo. I understand clutches on manuals have been known to give up on Stage 1 Eddys (rarely) but if you're going much beyond that you need to budget for an uprated clutch.
Other than that I'd say test drive them both and see which you prefer - for me the manual is an outdated piece of technology and has been wholly and successfully replaced by good semi-auto transmissions. I don't feel there is any less driver involvement at all compared with a manual. Others say DSG is boring and they need an extra stick to play with. Only you can decide which camp you fall in.
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so with that dodgy dsg problem would that cover most ed30?
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so with that dodgy dsg problem would that cover most ed30?
No. If anything it'll cover a minority. By MY08 the Mk5 was on it's way out and the Mk6 was on it's way in.
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DSG is the one!
I have an immaculate Tornado Red DSG Edition 30 for sale as it happens. :happy2:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,85048.0.html
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steve i have seen that :)
scotty,
no offence but id want an ed30 to keep residule,
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site:www.mk5golfgti.co.uk dsg or manual
^ put this into Google and take your pick :grin:
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I have an ED30 DSG and I've got to say I hated it to begin with but that's because I've never had an auto before. It's taken nearly 4 months for me to really see the benefits but when your really given it some through the twistys it's amazing in manual mode, I feel much more involved and the down shifts are quick. My only issue now is the up shifts when youbdont want them but a dsg remap from r tech will sort that out next month. :driver:
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I wander how many people drive a Ferrari or lambo and say, i wish it was manual because manuals are so much more involving. :confused:
If you want to change gear yourself use the paddles. Blasting down a lane or track using the paddles is immense, so much more control and speed available to you IMO.
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dsg is for people who cant drive :P
im pritty sure no dsg car will be helping them on there gear changes with my twin disc clutch and wotbox setup now with shortshifter and transmission mounts, now the clutch has sorted itself out the gearchanges are savage.. lol i respect dsg though very quick changes with no sacrifices of a race car clutch etc.. itis great for a daily drive, but manual for me
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Dsg for me all those times in the past iv been giving it some adrenalin going short shifting and bang crunched 3rd and he's gone, iv been using mine in manual and it's awsome it's simply epic to me for fast shifts but I know why people love the involvement of a manual to
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Dsg for me all those times in the past iv been giving it some adrenalin going short shifting and bang crunched 3rd and he's gone, iv been using mine in manual and it's awsome it's simply epic to me for fast shifts but I know why people love the involvement of a manual to
Tut tut tut :driver: :driver: :driver: :driver:
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I can honestly say after owning a GT170bhp Golf MK5 (DSG) I swore i would never ever have a manual car again. Yet when i got the DSG i thought it would be poor surprised. It was epic too drive i learnt all its charateristics in D mode and S mode knew it like the back of my hand And swore all my life i would never get a automatic car... How they have changed is beyond me. Takes a little getting use too but i can honestly say hand on heart i could drive a DSG much faster round some curlies with loads of confidence. I then bought a 57Reg Audi S3 (8p) which was manual it drove me mad having too change gear and as for handling in all honesty let god be my witness there was not much in it.. Everytime i drove my S3 i said god i wish this was DSG. I now want a edition 30 (DSG) Stage 3 :driver:
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been a while since i've read one of these threads. It's actually very civil, which bodes well for any future R32 vs Ed 30 threads! :evilgrin:
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been a while since i've read one of these threads. It's actually very civil, which bodes well for any future R32 vs Ed 30 threads! :evilgrin:
Come on there isn't really much contest. Edition 30 all day. :party:
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Some nice Ed30's in the for sale section :wink:
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been a while since i've read one of these threads. It's actually very civil, which bodes well for any future R32 vs Ed 30 threads! :evilgrin:
Come on there isn't really much contest. Edition 30 all day. :party:
Depends on the colour mate. Everyone knows Tornado red is the fastest colour on the GTI, and blue is the fastest colour on the R.
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I love my DSG especially as it is a daily driver, great for those rush hour drives sitting in stop start traffic, don't think I could have a normal automatic box though. I would pick DSG 9 times out of 10. The only thing I miss about manuals is dipping the clutch to let the engine roar (but that is just the boy racer in me :rolleye:)
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Once you go DSG, you don't wanna come second :innocent:
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The only thing I miss about manuals is dipping the clutch to let the engine roar (but that is just the boy racer in me :rolleye:)
I'm exactly the same - I only miss being able to blip the throttle at times, and being able to skip gears up & down the box. Other than that, very happy indeed. And so pleased I don't need to change the clutch when I turn up the power :evilgrin:
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I just find with the DSG it's so much more relaxing to drive. When I'm just commuting or sitting in traffic I'm not after driving involvement I just want something smooth and easy. When you want to turn things up a bit there's launch control, paddles and sport mode! Don't think I'd go back to a manual.
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I own a fl Cupra and love the manual gearbox, however, since taking a scirocco R DSG out, I've pined for one ever since. In my opinion, the gearbox is sublime and a masterpiece. I would have it over a manual in a heart beat, but the Cupra didn't come with that option in the model.
As mentioned already above, you're going to get many different responses to your question. It's purely down to you. Most of my driving is motorway and usually only at weekends, but as there are so many b4stard speed bumps everywhere and congestion, it's a ball ache to be continually up and down on the clutch.