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Title: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Rossimac on July 20, 2014, 02:21:15 pm
Hi,

I've just put a deposit down on this 2007 (07) GTI. The advert stated:

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It comes with extras including the Luxury and Winter Pack,which include folding electric mirrors,auto xenon headlights/wipers,Full Heated Black GTI Leather Seats,premium sound system with 6 cd changer in centre armrest,FVWSH with all receipts/invoices,Factory SAT NAV with on dash directions/postcode input,Monza Alloys with excellent tyres all round,excellent on fuel,5 door so practical as well as sporty,electric windows and electric folding mirrors,6 speed manual gearbox with very smooth gear change,lovely and fun to drive.

After looking at the lights in more detail I cannot see any xenons... nor do I see the headlight washer split in the section below the lights. Is the dealer wrong or am I wrong?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiAZB2OB.jpg&hash=1c52f2bf6f5f4874755c22ea0b8ea348c0e0d6c5)

Hoping to drive the price down a bit more if I am right!  :innocent:

Thanks,
Ross.
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: rdfcpete on July 20, 2014, 02:23:20 pm
The Winter pack added headlight washers anyway, so it'll have them - but unless the seller doesn't know a headlight from his a$$, it hasn't got Xenon headlights based on that description mate.

I retrofitted mine for around £600 - it was worth it, utterly and totally Ross  :happy2:

EDIT>> Pic has just appeared in the original post - Definitely doesn't have Xenons, standard Halogen there
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: rdfcpete on July 20, 2014, 02:24:49 pm
* BTW can't see the headlight washer slits in the front bumper, check that it's even got the winter pack, unless it's a bad pic?
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Rossimac on July 20, 2014, 02:27:41 pm
Indeed, I also thought as there are no headlight washer slits that it won't have the headlight washers.

It has leather seats - I don't think there is anything else in the winter pack!
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: PND on July 20, 2014, 02:33:57 pm
If you ring VW customer services, they should be able to tell you which options were added to the car when it was new.  Alternatively have a look at the codes on the inside first page of the service booklet (also should be a sticker in the boot under the carpet).

The Winter Pack should include heater washer jets and heated seats.  You've got the controls for heated seats so maybe you have the Winter Pack but no Xenons.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: rdfcpete on July 20, 2014, 02:38:32 pm
Always a chance the previous owner or someone in possession of the car somewhere along the line pilfered the Xenons for other uses, if it ever had them....

The VW check will reveal all.
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Rossimac on July 20, 2014, 02:47:02 pm
Thanks everyone.

As I said, I have yet to buy (let alone view the car as it is in England and I am in Northern Ireland). Going across to buy in a week's time and I secured the car with a £200 deposit (as it was the exact spec I was looking for). If it is only a £600 retrofit, then I will still buy the car.

I will call when the dealer is open again tomorrow and ask for the VIN to check with VW and ask how they didn't know it didn't have xenon lights. I only noticed it this morning when looking a the pictures.

Good point about them being replaced by a previous owner - questions shall be asked!

Cheers for the advice!
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: simonp on July 20, 2014, 03:13:16 pm
Could be the leather is a retrim or retrofit and that it doesn't have either pack! Had that on my old Golf. When I checked out all the 3 digit codes, one of them came up cloth seat facings.
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: V2 FAN on July 20, 2014, 03:27:18 pm
Thanks everyone.

As I said, I have yet to buy (let alone view the car as it is in England and I am in Northern Ireland). Going across to buy in a week's time and I secured the car with a £200 deposit (as it was the exact spec I was looking for). If it is only a £600 retrofit, then I will still buy the car.

I will call when the dealer is open again tomorrow and ask for the VIN to check with VW and ask how they didn't know it didn't have xenon lights. I only noticed it this morning when looking a the pictures.

Good point about them being replaced by a previous owner - questions shall be asked!

Cheers for the advice!


Depends who's retrofitting the Xenons, and don't forget the cost of the headlights, control module, loom and switch, all add up and then there's the charge of fitting. Enquire in your area as to what the cost could be. Also factor in whether you want auto levellers and headlamp washers which will then take it to OEM Spec  :happy2:
It's a big job fitting these unless your really savvy otherwise it will cost £'s

Here's how your front should look

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fyy70%2FV2FAN%2FDSC00919_zps45394291.jpg&hash=4e61155263b58c8f09a2331cd54a2a47abeed394)
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Rossimac on July 20, 2014, 03:47:38 pm
I would only be interested in the xenons themselves - autoleveling and washers aren't needed.

I can fit anything myself as I am savvy  :ashamed: so would just need all the wiring and the headlights.

Can't wait to get that VIN now  :happy2:
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Rossimac on July 20, 2014, 03:57:37 pm
Got the VIN - now to phone VW!
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Biano44 on July 20, 2014, 04:02:34 pm
Thanks everyone.

As I said, I have yet to buy (let alone view the car as it is in England and I am in Northern Ireland). Going across to buy in a week's time and I secured the car with a £200 deposit (as it was the exact spec I was looking for). If it is only a £600 retrofit, then I will still buy the car.

I will call when the dealer is open again tomorrow and ask for the VIN to check with VW and ask how they didn't know it didn't have xenon lights. I only noticed it this morning when looking a the pictures.

Good point about them being replaced by a previous owner - questions shall be asked!

Cheers for the advice!


Depends who's retrofitting the Xenons, and don't forget the cost of the headlights, control module, loom and switch, all add up and then there's the charge of fitting. Enquire in your area as to what the cost could be. Also factor in whether you want auto levellers and headlamp washers which will then take it to OEM Spec  :happy2:
It's a big job fitting these unless your really savvy otherwise it will cost £'s

Here's how your front should look

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fyy70%2FV2FAN%2FDSC00919_zps45394291.jpg&hash=4e61155263b58c8f09a2331cd54a2a47abeed394)

I'm sure I recognise those lights..... :drinking:
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Rossimac on July 22, 2014, 09:37:53 pm
After asking the dealer, he is adamant that there are indeed xenons on it.

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As for the xenon lights, had them looked at and can confirm they are the standard GTI xenon headlight. There are two types, one are bi xenons and then normal xenons. This car has normal ones that light up when you unlock the doors at night.

I phoned Volkswagen and was told yes luxury pack, but no winter pack. Leather seats were an optimal extra.

I know from what you guys are saying and that it is obvious from the photos, but what is he talking about "normal xenons"?
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: JoeDarKa on July 22, 2014, 09:42:05 pm
Hes talking out of his arse basically. My old halogens lit up at night when i unlocked my car. Called "coming home" lights, not xenons
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: BarberVW on July 22, 2014, 09:45:53 pm
It's probably got "xenon-look" bulbs in if anything at all, as they are absolutely 100% halogen headlights. I wonder who he had look at it. I'd personally avoid anyone providing such misinformation.
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: supraudi on July 26, 2014, 10:55:34 pm
Biano44 - Please send me a pm ref wheels as I cannot post in your listing. Sorry to hijack thread.


Thanks everyone.

As I said, I have yet to buy (let alone view the car as it is in England and I am in Northern Ireland). Going across to buy in a week's time and I secured the car with a £200 deposit (as it was the exact spec I was looking for). If it is only a £600 retrofit, then I will still buy the car.

I will call when the dealer is open again tomorrow and ask for the VIN to check with VW and ask how they didn't know it didn't have xenon lights. I only noticed it this morning when looking a the pictures.

Good point about them being replaced by a previous owner - questions shall be asked!

Cheers for the advice!


Depends who's retrofitting the Xenons, and don't forget the cost of the headlights, control module, loom and switch, all add up and then there's the charge of fitting. Enquire in your area as to what the cost could be. Also factor in whether you want auto levellers and headlamp washers which will then take it to OEM Spec  :happy2:
It's a big job fitting these unless your really savvy otherwise it will cost £'s

Here's how your front should look

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fyy70%2FV2FAN%2FDSC00919_zps45394291.jpg&hash=4e61155263b58c8f09a2331cd54a2a47abeed394)

I'm sure I recognise those lights..... :drinking:
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: alexharvey on July 26, 2014, 11:00:57 pm
they look standard
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Post by: howie1987 on July 26, 2014, 11:47:22 pm
They look like halogen headlights to me aswell mate.
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: john87 on July 27, 2014, 08:36:02 am
Definitely halogen (standard) headlights.. unless someone has fitted an HID kit  :ashamed: otherwise, the dealer is talking out his ar$e  :booty:

The halogen lights are actually pretty decent, with a set of uprated bulbs in there (Philips x-treme or Ring Xenon max) you'll not miss xenons too much!
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Rossimac on July 27, 2014, 11:13:10 am
Cheers guys.

Going to England tomorrow.

The trader took the Golf to VW at my request and they confirmed there was no winter pack and that the lights are standard halogen bulbs. He admitted his mistake and I'm happy.
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Andy on July 27, 2014, 11:31:56 am
looks a nice spec car and dont let the fact it hasn't got xenons on it put you of viewing it
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Rossimac on July 27, 2014, 11:37:37 am
I was more annoyed/hesitant that the trader was perhaps ignorant and wouldn't believe me. The xenons would be nice but not a deal breaker - getting the car for a good price (in comparison to Northern Ireland) and it's got everything else I wanted.

Hoping to join the GTI club this time tomorrow :happy2:
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: coolhandluke on July 27, 2014, 11:40:07 am
I was more annoyed/hesitant that the trader was perhaps ignorant and wouldn't believe me. The xenons would be nice but not a deal breaker - getting the car for a good price (in comparison to Northern Ireland) and it's got everything else I wanted.

Hoping to join the GTI club this time tomorrow :happy2:

Hi and just noticed your post.

Those are not xenons lights that are fitted to that car and nor does it have the head light washers.
I'm in N.Ireland myself but like you went over to England to buy the GTI I have about 4 years ago.
At the time I wasn't that bothered about xenons or not but that car had the other extras I was after and was low milage with one owner and came with 12 month warranty.
Either get the price reduced or your deposit back and look around some more,some good ones come up on this forum.
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: simonp on July 27, 2014, 02:48:03 pm
The trader advertising my old car states in the ad that it has an RCD500 (it's an RCD300), an iPod connection (true, but it doesn't work!) and Omanyt alloys (it has Zolders).
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Rossimac on July 31, 2014, 08:26:18 pm
Got the GTI home this afternoon (from Blackburn to Belfast)!

Few small scrapes on it, but nothing a nice polish won't get out.

Drove really well on the way up to Stranraer and I loved it.

MFSW and Dual Climate Control as well, which the trader didn't list. Pleasantly surprised!

Few questions:

Which red paint to use on rear calipers? They have shed their paint and are grey.

There is an electrical-like whine/noise in the cabin at idle and rises with the revs in the engine. I'll get a youtube up later to demonstrate. Any ideas? Only notices it on my way home.

  :drinking:
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Andy on July 31, 2014, 08:29:44 pm
nice purchase  :happy2:I used hammerite smooth but there is better out there.Does the whine noise go with the radio of
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Rossimac on July 31, 2014, 10:03:50 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlaDk8bw.jpg&hash=483336d2b566e0070df4721958ba4b5fac28cc72)

One on the right...  :evilgrin:

Whine starts with engine start and will continue once engine is off for around 45 secs.

Here's a short video showing the noise after engine is turned off. It's the small part directly under the front of the grey engine cover I think.



 
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: Scottymon on July 31, 2014, 10:43:42 pm
Throttle body.

Hammerite Red Smooth works well, much easier to get a good finish than with the very thin caliper paint that takes 4 million coats.
Title: Re: Does this car have standard headlights or xenons?
Post by: simonp on August 01, 2014, 10:20:08 am
They won't have shed the original paint, they'll have seized at some point and been replaced by someone like Kwik Fit...