MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: rich83 on July 21, 2014, 04:21:56 pm
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One of my mates cars.... :sick:
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Hi all,
My 2012 Polo GTI DSG was stolen on Friday 12th July. This was a scam so the thieves have both keys and logbook!
The car has triggered ANPR in Sittingbourne and Minster on Sea in Kent on Wednesday the 16th.
The police believe it is on the same plates and it's being kept around the Minster on Sea area
If you have ANY information on the car or its where about, even if you've seen it driving past you please contact me!
This is not covered by my insurance due to the car being obtained through fraud. I need to get this car back I have a baby on the way in a month!!
http://uk-mkivs.net/topic/242335-stolen-2012-vw-polo-please-help-kent-lm12xuv/
Rich
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Arseholes :fighting:
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Rich, do you know how they got log book and both keys?
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Rich, do you know how they got log book and both keys?
Yes. Counterfeit bankers draft.
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Yikes. So basically pitched up as a private seller and then gave a fraudulent banker's draft. That's scary.
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Yikes. So basically pitched up as a private seller and then gave a fraudulent banker's draft. That's scary.
Pitched up having posed as a car dealer. This is after multiple comms. And my mate is pretty switched on, has bought and sold about 5/6 cars in the time ive known him.
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Just had a google on banker's drafts:
- lots of stolen ones in circulation
- you can ring the branch that issued to verify, or you can go to the bank and cash it in
- either way, the bank can still say it's fraudulent later down the line and you're out of pocket
- BD is no better than a cheque.
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Gutted for him Hope they catch the ******** , strange how they went to all the trouble of a fake bankers draft then cruse about with the original plate on waiting to be spotted I think they've already sold it on to another poor punter and he's now lost his cash as well
Rob
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feel really sorry for him, but this is the reason i only sell a car for cash,
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So perhaps when some of us have our Lakeside meet next week, we could take a little cruise into Kent and go on a man hunt... :fighting:
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jesus thats terrifying!
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First of all I'm sorry to hear about this - I hope your friend gets it back.
Secondly, I thought this type of fraud was fairly common knowledge but from some of the responses I guess not? I remember seeing a TV show where someone had explained that this had happened to him. I saw that show when I was still in 6th form, and I'm 28 this year. If I were going to sell a car I wouldn't hand the car over until the money is in my hand or cleared in my account.
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Any news on this yet? Hope they get the car back before its too late.
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Fake Bankers Drafts to purchase cars were about when i joined the Police in 1983 !
No person would know that they are fakes as they are exactly the same as the original , easier to fake than any banknote too .
Very sad to see this type of thing still goes on .
Always wait for cleared funds to hit your bank account before parting with your car .
One issue that does occur quite alot is a cheque stolen from the back of a cheque book , not reported as stolen as not noticed as missing . Cheque owner only finds out when large cheque hits their account , happens with alot of business account cheque books.
The Polo on this thread is likely to turn up as it was done for profit and not their new daily . The buyer of it is likely to have some legal entitlement to the car too , so then probably a Police Property Act magistrates hearing where the likely outcome is a split of the value of the car . So both victims of fraud lose out . Either victim will have to give the other half the value of the car to keep it . So both could end up with a car that cost them 150% ish of its value .
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No news, apart from the police being utterly useless from the sounds of it.
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I was told a while back that a bankers draft is nothing more than a glorified cheque, it can still bounce or be returned even if it's legit, as the monies are transferred into a holding account once a bankers draft has been made out ,but this isn't instant, so the account holder could then make a transaction this taking his account under the said amount the bankers draft has been made out for , then making it bounce.
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No news, apart from the police being utterly useless from the sounds of it.
That's cause they're not getting a revenue from it.
Bet they'd be on the case if it was non payment of fines etc... or non payment of council tax which isn't even against the law lol.
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I was told a while back that a bankers draft is nothing more than a glorified cheque, it can still bounce or be returned even if it's legit, as the monies are transferred into a holding account once a bankers draft has been made out ,but this isn't instant, so the account holder could then make a transaction this taking his account under the said amount the bankers draft has been made out for , then making it bounce.
Genuine BD cannot bounce , it is from the bank itself and not the account holder .
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No news, apart from the police being utterly useless from the sounds of it.
That's cause they're not getting a revenue from it.
Bet they'd be on the case if it was non payment of fines etc... or non payment of council tax which isn't even against the law lol.
and what revenue do they get for anything the Police do then ?
To find a car you keep your eyes open for it , if you don't see it how do you find it ? What else do you expect the Police to do ?
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I was told a while back that a bankers draft is nothing more than a glorified cheque, it can still bounce or be returned even if it's legit, as the monies are transferred into a holding account once a bankers draft has been made out ,but this isn't instant, so the account holder could then make a transaction this taking his account under the said amount the bankers draft has been made out for , then making it bounce.
Genuine BD cannot bounce , it is from the bank itself and not the account holder .
Not always true . Bankers drafts can have a stop applied if lost or stolen after being issued.
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I was told a while back that a bankers draft is nothing more than a glorified cheque, it can still bounce or be returned even if it's legit, as the monies are transferred into a holding account once a bankers draft has been made out ,but this isn't instant, so the account holder could then make a transaction this taking his account under the said amount the bankers draft has been made out for , then making it bounce.
Genuine BD cannot bounce , it is from the bank itself and not the account holder .
Not always true . Bankers drafts can have a stop applied if lost or stolen after being issued.
Obviously :innocent:
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No news, apart from the police being utterly useless from the sounds of it.
That's cause they're not getting a revenue from it.
Bet they'd be on the case if it was non payment of fines etc... or non payment of council tax which isn't even against the law lol.
and what revenue do they get for anything the Police do then ?
To find a car you keep your eyes open for it , if you don't see it how do you find it ? What else do you expect the Police to do ?
What do you think fines are? lol.
They are a revenue, that's why they are always dreaming up new ways to fine (tax) us.
They are so busy bringing in revenue they have less time to solve actual crimes...
I expect them to be pro-active...
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The Police don't get the fine money !
So what pro active work would get this car back to its owner ?