MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: lukemk5gti on July 28, 2014, 08:31:06 am
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So I'm minding my own business on the weekend. Not flooring it by any means but I have a 3 lane open stretch in front of me so I do a safe 80km/hr (Speed limit is 60km/hr).
I then look across the road, bearing in mind there are 3 lanes on each side of the road and I see a speed van.
Only this speed van is facing the opposite direction. He had pulled a U-Turn such that his camera was now facing oncoming cars in the opposite lane (my lane).
I have never seen this done before!
Do you think his camera was focused on my 3 lanes or maybe the back of the cars on the other 3 lanes?
Do you think he could have picked me up?
Here he is in the photo on the far right!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn211%2Flukeoconnor2014%2FUntitled_zps6f32fac5.png&hash=a78ffced8234a879b907f5e76a70b9173b46bd12)
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Unlikely
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i'd guess he's watching the cars on his side bud.
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The key question is why he's gone to the trouble of turning it round. I suspect it's to catch motorbikes. I hope I'm right, for your sake!
Let us know if you get a letter in the next couple of weeks.
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The type of van in the photo can be adapted to cover vehicles coming towards and going away from them . Also the turning around is to hide the brightly covered rear and not totally within the guidelines . On your side of the road they could still clock your speed but would not generally do that as it would require the camera/detector to be moved which is not straight forward .
So the short answer is NO you would be very unlucky to get caught
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They don't normally muck about getting the letter out so keep your fingers crossed for a couple of days.
Makes sense for him to have done it for motorbikes
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Thought they had a camera on the front for bikes? To take a shot of the rear?
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Isn't that an offence by the van driver on that type of road since your showing white reflectors not red, even if it's broad day light?
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Is that a variable speed limit?
60km/h what's that, about 40mph? Great use of so much tarmac.
Last time I saw so much free tarmac I was doing 120mph with an unmarked BMW 5 series closing on my arse :ashamed:
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Is that a variable speed limit?
60km/h what's that, about 40mph? Great use of so much tarmac.
Last time I saw so much free tarmac I was doing 120mph with an unmarked BMW 5 series closing on my arse :ashamed:
:popcornsoda:
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As well, I thought the police had to be on the same side of the road as the targeted car in order to take a reading, otherwise you can argue the reading was invalid from not being conducted correctly?
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So I'm minding my own business on the weekend. Not flooring it by any means but I have a 3 lane open stretch in front of me so I do a safe 80km/hr (Speed limit is 60km/hr).
I then look across the road, bearing in mind there are 3 lanes on each side of the road and I see a speed van.
Only this speed van is facing the opposite direction. He had pulled a U-Turn such that his camera was now facing oncoming cars in the opposite lane (my lane).
I have never seen this done before!
Do you think his camera was focused on my 3 lanes or maybe the back of the cars on the other 3 lanes?
Do you think he could have picked me up?
Here he is in the photo on the far right!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn211%2Flukeoconnor2014%2FUntitled_zps6f32fac5.png&hash=a78ffced8234a879b907f5e76a70b9173b46bd12)
that will be taking pics of vehicle pass on the other carriageway.
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The key question is why he's gone to the trouble of turning it round. I suspect it's to catch motorbikes. I hope I'm right, for your sake!
Let us know if you get a letter in the next couple of weeks.
they will go for ANY vehicle on that carriage way.
4 weeks would be a good milestone
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Isn't that an offence by the van driver on that type of road since your showing white reflectors not red, even if it's broad day light?
no as it liveried emergency services vehicle
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As well, I thought the police had to be on the same side of the road as the targeted car in order to take a reading, otherwise you can argue the reading was invalid from not being conducted correctly?
nope not true. the cameras are facing the correct way to catch motorist so they would stand up in a court
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Isn't that an offence by the van driver on that type of road since your showing white reflectors not red, even if it's broad day light?
no as it liveried emergency services vehicle
and because its daylight and the lighting regs you refer aren't valid in daylight
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As well, I thought the police had to be on the same side of the road as the targeted car in order to take a reading, otherwise you can argue the reading was invalid from not being conducted correctly?
nope not true. the cameras are facing the correct way to catch motorist so they would stand up in a court
Fair enough. Need a different excuse now...
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As well, I thought the police had to be on the same side of the road as the targeted car in order to take a reading, otherwise you can argue the reading was invalid from not being conducted correctly?
nope not true. the cameras are facing the correct way to catch motorist so they would stand up in a court
Fair enough. Need a different excuse now...
:signLOL:
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I imagine there's nobody on the forum that works with the speed cams but does anyone have an idea what distance they take the photo from?
I've been told it's taken right as you're passing it but I know from the website they can actually detect you from 100's of metres away.
This one really is up in the air.
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Google pepipo forum, lots of useful info on there for you :happy2:
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Just an update to everyone on this.
July 27th is when I passed this speed camera. It is now 11th September.
6 weeks later and no ticket so it looks like they don't get you from the other side of the road.
If I come home later and find a letter in the post today of all days after posting this I give up on life :fighting:
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Just an update to everyone on this.
July 27th is when I passed this speed camera. It is now 11th September.
6 weeks later and no ticket so it looks like they don't get you from the other side of the road.
If I come home later and find a letter in the post today of all days after posting this I give up on life :fighting:
They have 14 business days + postage days after the incident in order to get the speeding ticket to you....
If it comes after that then its too late for them
That van wouldn't be taking a reading from the other side of the road as traffic on his side would be getting in the way surely...
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I imagine there's nobody on the forum that works with the speed cams but does anyone have an idea what distance they take the photo from?
I've been told it's taken right as you're passing it but I know from the website they can actually detect you from 100's of metres away.
This one really is up in the air.
Mobile vans are capable of clocking you at a huge distance
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Just an update to everyone on this.
July 27th is when I passed this speed camera. It is now 11th September.
6 weeks later and no ticket so it looks like they don't get you from the other side of the road.
If I come home later and find a letter in the post today of all days after posting this I give up on life :fighting:
They have 14 business days + postage days after the incident in order to get the speeding ticket to you....
If it comes after that then its too late for them
That van wouldn't be taking a reading from the other side of the road as traffic on his side would be getting in the way surely...
The first correspondence is never the fine , they will ask you who the driver was etc and then you send that back to them , then you get the fine and the choices . The process is called the Notice of Intended Prosecution and has as the above poster states 14 days (Not business days either) from the date of the offence , if it is posted then allowance is made for postage .
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I imagine there's nobody on the forum that works with the speed cams but does anyone have an idea what distance they take the photo from?
I've been told it's taken right as you're passing it but I know from the website they can actually detect you from 100's of metres away.
This one really is up in the air.
Mobile vans are capable of clocking you at a huge distance
But generally not from too far away , 200m probably the furthest due to chances of the beam being interfered with .
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Just an update to everyone on this.
July 27th is when I passed this speed camera. It is now 11th September.
6 weeks later and no ticket so it looks like they don't get you from the other side of the road.
If I come home later and find a letter in the post today of all days after posting this I give up on life :fighting:
They have 14 business days + postage days after the incident in order to get the speeding ticket to you....
If it comes after that then its too late for them
That van wouldn't be taking a reading from the other side of the road as traffic on his side would be getting in the way surely...
The first correspondence is never the fine , they will ask you who the driver was etc and then you send that back to them , then you get the fine and the choices . The process is called the Notice of Intended Prosecution and has as the above poster states 14 days (Not business days either) from the date of the offence , if it is posted then allowance is made for postage .
But the NIP is sent to whoever is registered owner of the vehicle on the DVLA's records so if you were driving a company car, got clocked by a speed camera but didn't get the NIP given to you by your place of employment until 6 months later, so long as your place of employment received the NIP within 14 days of the offence you'd still have to cough up the fine and take the points / lesson in how to avoid being speed taxed.
Equally if you have just bought the car 2nd hand and the registered owner details have not yet been updated on the DVLA's system but the police sent the NIP out within the 14 day period to what they believed was the registered owner but turns out to be the previous owner then you as the new owner still have to cough up the fine and take the points / lesson in how to avoid the speeding tax.
Basically the Police only have to show that they sent out the NIP in a timely fashion and it is not their duty to hunt down who was driving the vehicle in this time frame. As stated if they fail to do this then you get let off the hook.
I managed to avoid what i thought was going to be a NIP about a month ago, either the camera isn't switched on, there's no film in it, they couldn't get me because there were no lines in the lane i was in or i managed to get my speed down in time, either way if a NIP were to land on my doormat tomorrow all i have to do is fill in the appropriate bits of info along with a cover letter stating they've run out of time so they can keep their NIP*
*The precise way to phrase this can be found on the Pepipo forum - very useful with its info and real time case studies on speeding, fines, points, the police and the law.
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Google pepipo forum, lots of useful info on there for you :happy2:
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From recent experience, i know that they can target you in a van, from the opposite side of a normal 2 lane A_road (not dual carraigeway). Only their cock up with the NIP saved the day. Somerset.
Many years ago we were zapped by a traffic car under similar conditions to the op. But, no mid barrier. Clear, dry empty dual carraigeway. Copper was "peeping" just out of sight down the hill of a slip road, facing us as oncoming. Obviously waiting for someone heading opposite direction to us.
Temptation was too much? He did a u_turn across all 4 lanes to pull us over, further down the road.
"Interesting" discussions with driver, and later his boss, about danger of alleged speeding offence, versus that of doing a u_turn across the grass in centre reservation, then travelling very considerably faster that us to catch up! They dropped the matter.
All rather "Hazard county" stuff!