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Title: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: lambera on September 04, 2014, 05:22:31 pm
Hello forum members
I am interested in buying an edition 30 probably sometime next year looking for a dsg model. But I have recently came across the problem with the mechatronic unit going on the dsg box, now this has worried me abit and to be honest put me off abit :/. I dont want a manual has to be a dsg if I get one but I just wanted to know how likely this problem is to occur. I found a guy on ebay who apparently can repair the unit for £350 alot less than vw want dont know if anyone has had experience with him ?.

Any information will be great thanks  :happy2:
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Post by: RetroRaz on September 04, 2014, 06:54:08 pm
Quite few people repair the mechatronic unit.  Bba reman is one of them. Make sure the dsg service was done every 40k miles.
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: AndyBrown on September 04, 2014, 06:58:23 pm
I didnt know they could be repaired, thats worth knowing.
Had a search on ebay and had a look at the listing, mine is number 1 on his list, everything looks normal but there is an issue there.
Ive had issues since I bought my car a few month back, finally getting it in to the garage friday so they can have a look. They dont think its the mechatroic because it doesnt have an error on VCDS.
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Post by: lambera on September 04, 2014, 07:17:07 pm
Ah ok thanks
Any more info would be great?
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: lukemk5gti on September 04, 2014, 07:49:06 pm
Had the same fears as yourself when I bought mine.

It actually tipped me over to the manual in the end.

Only recently drove the dsg version and I loved it! Good luck with the search!
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: AndyBrown on September 04, 2014, 08:00:41 pm
Don't get me wrong I still absolutely love e DSG, I'd always hated autos aswell.
Honestly mate get the DSG, but of advice tho when you test  drive it make sure you go long enough for e gearbox to heat up properly and then go from a stop, any jerking just walk away from it.
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: burger187 on September 04, 2014, 08:59:19 pm
If a car is rough at idle will that be the dsg or misfire? As for dsg someone hit my car last week it's in for repairs ATM I have a manual Toyota yaris 2014 plate which is sh*ttt lol sooo slow and had to get use to clutch control again. Can't wait to Get my car back  :driver:
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: AndyBrown on September 04, 2014, 09:07:36 pm
I doubt that will be DSG.
Could even be the turbo, I've heard it can do that if the turbo is f*cked.
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: vwrascal on September 04, 2014, 09:15:18 pm
I have had a manual mk5 gti and now I own a dsg. The mechatronic unit went kaput, it cost me £750 all in from vw  :surprised: car now feels awesome and I wouldn't go back to manual .Just ashame its such an expensive fix! P.s I was one of those 'manual is best' geezers  :grin: 
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: V2 FAN on September 04, 2014, 09:26:11 pm
Don't worry about the DSG

Buy, service and enjoy.

I had the same concerns and after some due diligence I found the perfect car.

Enjoy  :happy2:
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: AndyBrown on September 04, 2014, 09:26:47 pm
£750? That's cheap in comparison to what I've read?
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Post by: V2 FAN on September 04, 2014, 09:35:07 pm
£750? That's cheap in comparison to what I've read?

Loads of specialists now do this work which ranges from £300 up to £1k+

Can take VW several weeks as each megatronic is unique to the vehicle.
Specialists can do it in a fraction of the time  :happy2:
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: AndyBrown on September 04, 2014, 09:40:27 pm
Very useful info, thank you.
Who done yours? What did they actually do?
Title: Re: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: lambera on September 04, 2014, 09:51:55 pm
Thanks for the info guys
Think I am still going to go for the dsg 8)
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: dazza on September 04, 2014, 11:19:05 pm
My wife asked me to buy a small automatic car as she refuses to drive a manual. :evilgrin:

Luckily I found out her licence is not valid so I'm planning on going to stage 2 before she gets a new one.

I hated automatics in the past but the DSG is awesome. Shes getting on a bit now 05. She does clunk a little bit going from P to R and R to D hopefully that is normal.
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: P3T3R on September 04, 2014, 11:34:16 pm
My wife asked me to buy a small automatic car as she refuses to drive a manual. :evilgrin:

Luckily I found out her licence is not valid so I'm planning on going to stage 2 before she gets a new one.

I hated automatics in the past but the DSG is awesome. Shes getting on a bit now 05. She does clunk a little bit going from P to R and R to D hopefully that is normal.

I get the odd clunk as well, sounds like its coming from the passengers side. Not sure what it is though.
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: Tortaruga on September 04, 2014, 11:54:06 pm
I get the odd clunk as well, sounds like its coming from the passengers side. Not sure what it is though.
I made a fast left-right one time and the gf's head made that noise when she cracked it off the window.  :grin:
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on September 05, 2014, 06:49:10 am
I doubt that will be DSG.
Could even be the turbo, I've heard it can do that if the turbo is f*cked.

The turbo?? You haven't read that on this forum, have you?

I'd suggest PCV is to blame if the idle is very bad. Little stutters at idle are common on these now
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Post by: bestygti on September 05, 2014, 09:02:36 am
Just had my mech unit replaced at vw for a total of 1600 all in, including oil etc. Bought my car not knowing the fault but it became apparent something was wrong when the car was hot. Jerking from a standstill and at low rpm, clunking gears and nearly stalling. I got 50% off goodwill from vw was the car is FWVSH so make that a definite when you come to buy as they won't even entertain any goodwill unless it's got that. Fault is completely sorted now and it's smooth as butter :)
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: vwrascal on September 05, 2014, 10:39:26 am
£750? That's cheap in comparison to what I've read?

£750 was the price after the 50% goodwill was taken off  :innocent:
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Post by: lambera on September 05, 2014, 11:22:00 am
There is a place in Manchester who repair the mechatronic unit alot less costly than vw aswell
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: RetroRaz on September 05, 2014, 11:26:54 am
Check these lot out too

http://www.ecutesting.com/vw_and_audi_dsg_gearbox_ecu.html

http://www.bba-reman.com/uk/index.aspx
Title: Re: Re: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: bestygti on September 05, 2014, 11:38:22 am
£750? That's cheap in comparison to what I've read?

£750 was the price after the 50% goodwill was taken off  :innocent:
Seems 50% goodwill is pretty standard as that's what I got too
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: SL4VE on September 05, 2014, 01:23:05 pm
ECU Testing did my multitronic unit for my audi and cost me £500 all in including oil and all the work from a specialist and it was absolutely faultless
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: AndyBrown on September 05, 2014, 01:42:14 pm
Where are the based?
Just took mine back to the garage, they've reset the dsg which hasn't sorted the problem, they now recommend changing the oil and after that if it's not fixed they think it could be the clutch packs. What symptoms would I be experiencing if it was the clutch packs. Everything thsts happening is the same as what other people have had with the mechatronic unit being the cause.

The garage is adamant it's not the mechatroinc. Sick of it now as the garage i got it from is 1.5 hour drive from where I live.

*EDIT* Just had a search online and I'll probably looking at £150ish to do an oil change on the dsg!  :confused:
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: dazza on September 05, 2014, 03:35:58 pm
Where are the based?
Just took mine back to the garage, they've reset the dsg which hasn't sorted the problem, they now recommend changing the oil and after that if it's not fixed they think it could be the clutch packs. What symptoms would I be experiencing if it was the clutch packs. Everything thsts happening is the same as what other people have had with the mechatronic unit being the cause.

The garage is adamant it's not the mechatroinc. Sick of it now as the garage i got it from is 1.5 hour drive from where I live.

*EDIT* Just had a search online and I'll probably looking at £150ish to do an oil change on the dsg!  :confused:
I did mine myself i'm sure the DSG fluid and filter alone cost me a little less than that. :confused:
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: AndyBrown on September 05, 2014, 03:42:50 pm
I spoke to a local gearbox specialist and he's recommended that I get it booked in with VW as there diagnostics are better than vcds and will be able to diagnose if there is a problem with DSG. Does this sound right?
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: downsideup on September 15, 2014, 01:36:56 pm
Where are the based?
Just took mine back to the garage, they've reset the dsg which hasn't sorted the problem, they now recommend changing the oil and after that if it's not fixed they think it could be the clutch packs. What symptoms would I be experiencing if it was the clutch packs. Everything thsts happening is the same as what other people have had with the mechatronic unit being the cause.

The garage is adamant it's not the mechatroinc. Sick of it now as the garage i got it from is 1.5 hour drive from where I live.

*EDIT* Just had a search online and I'll probably looking at £150ish to do an oil change on the dsg!  :confused:
I did mine myself i'm sure the DSG fluid and filter alone cost me a little less than that. :confused:

I spoke to a local VW specialist about mine and from what I told him over the phone he was also adamant that mine probably only needed a new clutch pack and was not the mechatronic. His reason was that it only lurched in 2nd gear at low revs.

He said it was approx £1000 for a new clutch pack from TPS and 3 hrs labour.

I dont have that kind of cash atm so will leave it for now as it is not too bad but will be interested in seeing what VW say if they look at yours!
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: AndyBrown on September 15, 2014, 01:40:04 pm
Booked for Wednesday morning so I'll let keep you updated  :happy2:
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: AndyBrown on September 17, 2014, 12:59:50 pm
VW confirmed my suspicions this morning, it was the mechatronic, they also quoted me £2287.46 to replace it.

Gunnar fire an email over now to the garage I got it from.
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: downsideup on September 17, 2014, 01:44:10 pm
Gutted, thanks for letting me know, did they charge you about £70 for checking.

I might send mine into VW as well.
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: AndyBrown on September 17, 2014, 02:01:31 pm
£65 inc vat.
They do a health check aswell, dropped the bombshell I need discs and pads all round. I changed my interior lights to led last night aswell and blew a fuse, they said the interior lights weren't working and quoted me £145 for a new one, I went to halfords and bought a new fuse for £2 and it was working lol
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: lukemk5gti on September 17, 2014, 02:20:55 pm
£65 inc vat.
They do a health check aswell, dropped the bombshell I need discs and pads all round. I changed my interior lights to led last night aswell and blew a fuse, they said the interior lights weren't working and quoted me £145 for a new one, I went to halfords and bought a new fuse for £2 and it was working lol

Going to do these led lights myself. Where did they pull that £145 quote from?

Surely the fuse was just a 10amp on the right side of the dash no?
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: AndyBrown on September 17, 2014, 02:24:14 pm
Reckon it needed the full unit replacing!
Ye 7.5amp it is.
Title: Re: Worried about mechatronic unit going
Post by: AndyBrown on September 25, 2014, 06:25:49 pm
Update on my mechatronic issues.
Ive posted a new thread on MK5 general area as I need some advice on it.