MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: edition_30 on November 06, 2009, 03:08:09 pm
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Going for stage 1 tomorrow.. cannot wait!
Are there any specific settings I should be looking to get my car set-up too...
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Going for stage 1 tomorrow.. cannot wait!
Are there any specific settings I should be looking to get my car set-up too...
that depends if you have any other mods?
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OEM all the way...
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OEM all the way...
Cool, well my revo settings on stage one were ... f8 t6 b8 but i had intercooler and intake :(
however before the other mods and the default settings (it will be set to whatever best suits your car on the day) mine was 315 bhp..
SO you can expect anything from 305-320bhp at the fly
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IMO there is absolutley no way you can get 75-95bhp increase from a stage 1 remap alone. k04 turbo or not. from what i have seen of k04s on stage 1 you'd be more realsitically looking at 280bhp possibly more if your lucky, unless uyou are on an over exagerating dyno
all these are k04 golfs from JKMs gallery
bluefin stage 2 290bhp
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/Golf%20GTI%20RR%20Day%2003%2010%2009/Dyno%20Graphs/BBU.gif
revo stage 2+ 322
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/Golf%20GTI%20RR%20Day%2003%2010%2009/Dyno%20Graphs/JYF.gif
bluefin stage 1 280bhp
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/Golf%20GTI%20RR%20Day%2003%2010%2009/Dyno%20Graphs/SNS.gif
revo stage 1 278bhp
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/MK5%20GTI%2018%2003%2009/Dyno%20Graphs/CLB.gif
i personnaly think my RR results that i had at AMD are not that accurate, and im looking forwqard to getting on the rollers at surry RR day to get as second comparison.
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Fed up of hearing about jkms rollers, just because it gives less figures doesnt mean its right. Mine made 330 at stage 2 on awesome gti's rollers, does that mean they dont know what there doing when it comes to using their rolling road, think not.
Id expect around 300 from revo stage 1 mate and think i ran mine at around b7 t5 f9 but carnt remember exactly, anyways enjoy you wont be dissapionted.
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you forget that is my opinion. your 330bhp @stage 2 sounds ok and realistic to me. as does a stage 2+ K04 cars hitting 340-360bhp.
but IMO which isnt fact!!, Id say between 285-300bhp is a more realsitic target for a stage 1 car with no additional mods.
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It doesn't matter whether we all think our car has 250bhp or 400bhp its an argument that will never get resolved. Its how it drives in the real world on a road that counts. Take it to santa pod and find out, claiming this and that makes no sense. Its about getting the car running as sweet as possible. A healthy ED 30 with a stage one revo map is going to be pretty fast no matter what numbers are written on the piece of paper. :pomppomp:
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It doesn't matter whether we all think our car has 250bhp or 400bhp its an argument that will never get resolved. Its how it drives in the real world on a road that counts. Take it to santa pod and find out, claiming this and that makes no sense. Its about getting the car running as sweet as possible. A healthy ED 30 with a stage one revo map is going to be pretty fast no matter what numbers are written on the piece of paper. :pomppomp:
I agree with you 100% on it being how it drives, i was merely saying i thought it was a bit over what you could expect realistically.
A fast car will not necessarily be fast at the pod though if the driver over cooks it on the start line, there is a lot of scope in times when it comes down todriver ability.
Its all about in gear acceleration times in the real world, and thats where these exel
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It doesn't matter whether we all think our car has 250bhp or 400bhp its an argument that will never get resolved. Its how it drives in the real world on a road that counts. Take it to santa pod and find out, claiming this and that makes no sense. Its about getting the car running as sweet as possible. A healthy ED 30 with a stage one revo map is going to be pretty fast no matter what numbers are written on the piece of paper. :pomppomp:
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I couldn't agree more!
Except perhaps that Santa Pod isn't the best indicator either - Because so much depends on the driver's skill in getting off the line IMO.
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I think from what ive read JKM rollers are a good indication of power and gains, if you look on their site loads of ed30's have been run both standard and non standard... the standard ones make 230ish which is what they are supposed to... stage one remapped seem to make 280ish... I agree 300+ seems a lot, I would like to think that mine on stage 2 makes 320ish but saying that its never been on a rolling road, I love it and it feels very fast and as others have said that what matters :happy2:
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Although I am a JKM fanboy (and proud of it), regardless of whether their rollers or rather their way of operating them, is more realistic or not, I suggest it's a good practice to regularly use the same rolling road to assess and monitor your car's health. This way you have at least some semblence of relative performance/health.
By all means go to other dyno sessions to socialise and have fun but keep one of them constant.
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It doesn't matter whether we all think our car has 250bhp or 400bhp its an argument that will never get resolved. Its how it drives in the real world on a road that counts. Take it to santa pod and find out, claiming this and that makes no sense. Its about getting the car running as sweet as possible. A healthy ED 30 with a stage one revo map is going to be pretty fast no matter what numbers are written on the piece of paper. :pomppomp:
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I couldn't agree more!
Except perhaps that Santa Pod isn't the best indicator either - Because so much depends on the driver's skill in getting off the line IMO.
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I disagree, if you want to claim super horsepower effectively willy wave then you need the big balls to back it up. :evilgrin:
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Although I am a JKM fanboy (and proud of it), regardless of whether their rollers or rather their way of operating them, is more realistic or not, I suggest it's a good practice to regularly use the same rolling road to assess and monitor your car's health. This way you have at least some semblence of relative performance/health.
By all means go to other dyno sessions to socialise and have fun but keep one of them constant.
hence the reason i am going to this RR at surrey as im doubting my figures(hopefully will be proved wrong though)
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My settings (Revo Stage 1, no other mods) are Boost 7, timing 5 and fuel 9.
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I disagree, if you want to claim super horsepower effectively willy wave then you need the big balls to back it up. :evilgrin:
.... :laugh: Well yes. If you dial in the willy waving factor then I agree.
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willy waving is the way forward. lol
damn my k03 its always letting me down
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All depends on what sort of power delivery you want mate. If you want a aggressive setting then go for B9 T 5 or 6 and F9. Where as if you want a more progressive power, then something like B7 T 5 or 6 and F9. Either of which should see around the 300 mark or maybe just short.
Regarding the RR figures, it's generally JKM v's the rest of the world. But as TC says, it's only a figure and unless you have other Ed30's there with the same same mods to compare against, I wouldn't worry about it to much.... Trust me, it'll be quick!!! :laugh:
If you do get it on the rollers, I would suggest you do as Red has mentioned and keep using the same RR each time, especially if more mods are added. Then you can gauge a more realistic figure in regards to what gain you make.. :happy2:
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I disagree, if you want to claim super horsepower effectively willy wave then you need the big balls to back it up. :evilgrin:
.... :laugh: Well yes. If you dial in the willy waving factor then I agree.
I actually never enjoyed the pod the first time, but since i had that duel with Nath at inters i cant wait to go back. :party:
There was nothing really between the cars, we both nailed it off the line and we were both laughing at each other half way up the track ( as i passed him) only kiddin :laugh: Its great fun while waiting for the lights to change if you are racing a friend or similar spec car. :party: :party: :party:
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Round 2 for me and joesgti next time!!!
Best not snow :sad1:
Im sitting on my hands on this topic :pomppomp:
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willy waving is the way forward. lol
damn my k03 its always letting me down
You need a big turbo!!! :wink:
Now where's one of those for sale :innocent:
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the list of things i need is HUUUUUUUGE.
i have 400 spare, will you accept that, if not water meth it is!!
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Round 2 for me and joesgti next time!!!
Best not snow :sad1:
Im sitting on my hands on this topic :pomppomp:
Definately needs to be another big Pod meet next year, that is for sure.. :wink:
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Im sitting on my hands on this topic :pomppomp:
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willy waving , pod times ......... I'll pass :P
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Definately needs to be another big Pod meet next year, that is for sure.. :wink:
....When are you driving again, Ben? Surely it must be sometime next year (hopefully sooner rather than later).
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June the 24th mate.. I am officially half way there as of tomorrow.. :signLOL:
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June the 24th mate.. I am officially half way there as of tomorrow.. :signLOL:
....At last! :pomppomp:
You'll manage the Summer events at The Pod then :pomppomp:
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June the 24th mate.. I am officially half way there as of tomorrow.. :signLOL:
My birthday :grin:
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June the 24th mate.. I am officially half way there as of tomorrow.. :signLOL:
....At last! :pomppomp:
You'll manage the Summer events at The Pod then :pomppomp:
Summer events, OH GOD YES!!! Whether or not i'll be running at Pod with it i'm not sure. Depends on whether or not i'm going Stage 2+ or not. Will still be going there regardless though as I always enjoy the day out.
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disregard the figures of the dyno, its the improvment of the before and after you need to pay attention to.
Tired of hearing about JKMs rollers too tbh.
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My settings (Revo Stage 1, no other mods) are Boost 7, timing 5 and fuel 9.
mines the same and all i have is a vrw filter :happy2:
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Just got back guys & all I can say is wow!
Made 298 on the rollers but they said with a week or so it will adapt.. is this true?
also went for a pipercross panel
Amazing difference to the car
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Mine is was set by Carl from Revo at Inters and he put it on 9 6 9 and it is bang on :happy2: :wink:
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Mine is was set by Carl from Revo at Inters and he put it on 9 6 9 and it is bang on :happy2: :wink:
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I think that 969 is Carl's favourite number. He loves the 9's :driver:
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Going for stage 1 tomorrow.. cannot wait!
Are there any specific settings I should be looking to get my car set-up too...
Did it make much difference to your insurance mate?
I would love to be in your position mate......I almost am. :ashamed: I was all set to get the revo done, until I called my Insurance and they told me that they would not insure me if I modified the engine. :sad1:
So now I either wait till the end of Feb when my policy runs out (but at least I will get another years no-claims) or I cancel this policy and get a refund for the 3mths remaining. Then I will get a new policy straight away from another company but I will have to forget the no-claims accrued for last year.
I should wait till March. I hope I can! :sad1:
Just got back guys & all I can say is wow!
Made 298 on the rollers but they said with a week or so it will adapt.. is this true?
also went for a pipercross panel
Amazing difference to the car
Well done mate! I can't wait. March seems such a long way away! What settings did you go for?
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I was all set to get the revo done, until I called my Insurance and they told me that they would not insure me if I modified the engine. :sad1:
....You may have already said, but how old are you and which insurance company? - The answer to each of those questions may be why and hence a solution may be possible....or not.
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....You may have already said, but how old are you and which insurance company? - The answer to each of those questions may be why and hence a solution may be possible....or not.
I think it was more to do with the Insurance company. I'm insured with More-Than Insurance. I'm 34yrs old with nearly 5yrs NCD.
A very nice Indian girl told me that if the Revo will affect the Top Speed and/or the Acceleration then they would NOT be able to insure me.
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@ monte - Yep, 34yo + 5 NCD should not be a problem. You just need a more sympathetic insurance company who understands mods. Example: Greenlight.
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Yep, Greenlight gets my thumbs up :happy2:
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You up late, Dom :smiley:
I just been watching Die Hard 4 - What an action movie! Bruce Willis is the coolest dude.
Nite nite, catch ya soon :drinking: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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:signLOL: I watched that too!!! Just getting some work done!! :ashamed:
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Mine is was set by Carl from Revo at Inters and he put it on 9 6 9 and it is bang on :happy2: :wink:
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I think that 969 is Carl's favourite number. He loves the 9's :driver:
I can vouch for that.. lol. All Revo's demo cars use B9 too.. :evilgrin: Must admit that I am with Tom, as it is bang on IMO.. :wink:
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I prefer to run B7 on my K03 GTI - Gives a bit more headroom for any potential fuel cut issues as I understand it. I can't tell the difference in driving between B7 and B9 anyway - Or at least it doesn't make any difference to my driving. IIRC, B7 also gave me a much better AFR plot on the dyno.
Each car and its mods is different and that's the beauty of Revo as you can make fine adjustments.
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Well i've just changed one of my presets to 969 and will give it a go for a couple of days to see if theres any difference if i get feul cuts i will go straight back to 759 as that seemed really good for me :smiley:
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Well i've just changed one of my presets to 969 and will give it a go for a couple of days to see if theres any difference if i get feul cuts i will go straight back to 759 as that seemed really good for me :smiley:
....Yep, I'm on T5/B7/F9 on K03 and she runs well, but will cut down to B4 if I fit a high-flow tubular air intake.
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I asked Kev at Revo what settings an Edition 30 (no other mods) should have and here is his reply:
"We would recommend leaving it to what your dealer set it to after they datalogged the car on the road. There’s no ‘be all end all’ setting, whilst we can advise you as to what we ‘think’ would be best we wouldn’t know for sure without datalogging the car in real terms. As a starting point I would use B6, F9, T5 which is probably on the safe side, you’re more than likely able to run more timing but again I couldn’t tell you for sure without checking the car."
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I asked Kev at Revo what settings an Edition 30 (no other mods) should have and here is his reply:
"We would recommend leaving it to what your dealer set it to after they datalogged the car on the road. There’s no ‘be all end all’ setting, whilst we can advise you as to what we ‘think’ would be best we wouldn’t know for sure without datalogging the car in real terms. As a starting point I would use B6, F9, T5 which is probably on the safe side, you’re more than likely able to run more timing but again I couldn’t tell you for sure without checking the car."
that is the same reply i had WORD for WORD a few months ago about mine.... dammn!! he must get asked that a lot :jumping:
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that is the same reply i had WORD for WORD a few months ago about mine.... dammn!! he must get asked that a lot :jumping:
....Of course. And it's good advice - Each car is different. And it's another reason I go to Revo dealer JKM.
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Just got back guys & all I can say is wow!
Made 298 on the rollers but they said with a week or so it will adapt.. is this true?
also went for a pipercross panel
Amazing difference to the car
Good figures, what is the delivery like? Boost early and progressive or comes in like a train at 3500rpm? Brakes next?
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I really can't believe how much it's transformed the car.. I must admit tho I did line the way the car felt from original.. The way it made the power felt so smooth..
It's taken some getting used to & if I was honest when I first got it done I loved the power but dud not like how it was delivered.. Felt lie the car had lost it's identity.. Now it's started to grow on me I absolute love it.. Smooth progression upto 2.5 rpm then all of a sudden it explodes.. The power really is unbelievable.. So too I imaginge is the look on my face!
Brakes would are def on my list.. Any suggestions?
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Well i've just changed one of my presets to 969 and will give it a go for a couple of days to see if theres any difference if i get feul cuts i will go straight back to 759 as that seemed really good for me :smiley:
all i can say is wow this has made my car so much more responsive it felt fast before but now its mental! will have to put it back tho as its getting a bit icy in the mornings and might be a bit dangerous. EDITION_30 i suggest you get yourself a select plus switch and then you can change the settings also :happy2:
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all i can say is wow this has made my car so much more responsive it felt fast before but now its mental! will have to put it back tho as its getting a bit icy in the mornings and might be a bit dangerous.
....To begin with you'll be pushing it a bit to explore how it responds but you'll settle down as you get used to the remap. Try not to suddenly floor it when slippy - The ESP will mostly take care of you but it's a better way of driving in ALL conditions anyway to be more progressive on the throttle and not stamp on it. It doesn't have to be icy, it can be a white line which flashes your ESP.
The sooner you can get that grip, the sooner your power will get transferred to the road and you'll be surprised by your progress. Scrabbling around for grip with too much power too suddenly doesn't result in much progress!
Don't forget to inform your insurer. Enjoy! :happy2:
:congrats: Another satisfied Revo customer.