MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: JaseGti on September 26, 2014, 06:53:46 pm
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My last thread as disappeared why???
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Discussion of replica vcds is not allowed. Rich made a post on the subject
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Don't see what the big deal is in fairness, we can't all afford the genuine stuff.
In fact all replica stuff should be banned then not just vcds
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Generally speaking. They are. As they are pretty much counterfeit OBD devices, with hacked versions of VCDS.
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Don't see what the big deal is in fairness, we can't all afford the genuine stuff.
In fact all replica stuff should be banned then not just vcds
That's a fair point.
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Don't see what the big deal is in fairness, we can't all afford the genuine stuff.
In fact all replica stuff should be banned then not just vcds
That is pretty much the case.
Copied vcds cables are just that. They are effectively stealing someone else's intellectual property.
The cost of a genuine cable isn't that bad when you consider that thousands of hours it takes to reverse engineer the information thst the ECU is outputting. Not to mention the lifetime free updates..... Free support etc etc etc
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It's illegal.
Now, you may think that it shouldn't be and we should all buy knockoff stuff - that's your lookout. Much like those hoovering up cheap parts almost certainly coming from stripped stolen cars. Closing your eyes and sticking your fingers in your ears doesn't make it ok, ignorance is no defence.
Don't expect the forum to tolerate promotion of illegal activity.
This isn't the law of the forum, it's the law of the land. You don't agree, complain to your MP.
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Don't see what the big deal is in fairness, we can't all afford the genuine stuff.
In fact all replica stuff should be banned then not just vcds
That's a fair point.
just to clarify I wasn't agreeing with the copied vccds being ok, what I was trying to say is that there's a hell of a lot of copied/ knocked of parts on here that gets over looked, my point was if it's good for one then surely it's good for all.
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Don't see what the big deal is in fairness, we can't all afford the genuine stuff.
In fact all replica stuff should be banned then not just vcds
That's a fair point.
just to clarify I wasn't agreeing with the copied vccds being ok, what I was trying to say is that there's a hell of a lot of copied/ knocked of parts on here that gets over looked, my point was if it's good for one then surely it's good for all.
Feel free to use the report button to report stuff
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Don't see what the big deal is in fairness, we can't all afford the genuine stuff.
In fact all replica stuff should be banned then not just vcds
That's a fair point.
just to clarify I wasn't agreeing with the copied vccds being ok, what I was trying to say is that there's a hell of a lot of copied/ knocked of parts on here that gets over looked, my point was if it's good for one then surely it's good for all.
Feel free to use the report button to report stuff
what's the point, how would anyone ever prove it? just couldn't see why the op was being singled out? your own staff mentioned it was fine to have the copy the other day!
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Well if that was mentioned I didnt see it. Do you have a link?. Like I say.... feel free to report stuff.
The OP is not being singled out. I am just stating the facts of something that we will not allow to be discussed openly on here. It would be the same if someone was selling REVO/APR/R-tech copied maps for 50 quid a pop....
We had a situation a few months ago where a certain tuning companies name was mentioned not in the best light, and we were threatened with legal action.
So by all means setup your own forum called "www.fakevagpartsandvcdsleads.co.uk" and then you can be responsible for its content.
Rich
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pm sent rich.
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Well if that was mentioned I didnt see it. Do you have a link?. Like I say.... feel free to report stuff.
The OP is not being singled out. I am just stating the facts of something that we will not allow to be discussed openly on here. It would be the same if someone was selling REVO/APR/R-tech copied maps for 50 quid a pop....
We had a situation a few months ago where a certain tuning companies name was mentioned not in the best light, and we were threatened with legal action.
So by all means setup your own forum called "www.fakevagpartsandvcdsleads.co.uk" and then you can be responsible for its content.
Rich
Surely if someone had a bad experience with a tuning company they have every right to post their thoughts here.
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Or you could just contact a person who is local to you, with a genuine version of vcds, ask them nicely if they can code / do whatever you want and see what they say.
Iv done a few bits for people and dont actually ask for any money as its often a quick 5/10nin job!
Winner.
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Well if that was mentioned I didnt see it. Do you have a link?. Like I say.... feel free to report stuff.
The OP is not being singled out. I am just stating the facts of something that we will not allow to be discussed openly on here. It would be the same if someone was selling REVO/APR/R-tech copied maps for 50 quid a pop....
We had a situation a few months ago where a certain tuning companies name was mentioned not in the best light, and we were threatened with legal action.
So by all means setup your own forum called "www.fakevagpartsandvcdsleads.co.uk" and then you can be responsible for its content.
Rich
Surely if someone had a bad experience with a tuning company they have every right to post their thoughts here.
There was more it than that though. Too long a story.
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Think about it. When was the last time there was a thread or comment along the lines of "My genuine VCDS cable won't work!", whereas there are often posts along the lines of "I bought a VCDS / Vag Com and I can't get the drivers / software to work", or "My cheap cable doesn't connect to my car and isn't recognised by my computer."
If it costs £250 for a cable and software which works out of the box every single time you use it, then it's worth £250. If you have to start disabling internet connections, loading only the drivers which come on a cd, and using the old version of the program which is all you can use, just to steal something which is more expensive, then you really shouldn't expect support from a forum of enthusiasts.
That's my view anyway.
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To be honest if you can't afford the genuine cable you can always see who is closest on the list and pay a visit. Much cheaper.
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Out vcds register is probably the most comprehensive off all the UK based forums. :-)
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As I posted in my previous thread I live in JERSEY look that up on the register and get back to me?!?!?!
If I could afford one I would but after getting a mortgage I have very little money and all I wanted was a cheap lead.
Everyone does something illgeal once in the life like breaking the speed limit etc etc and all I want is a cheap lead
Utter madness
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Then spend the money on a genuine lead, and add yourself to the register. You'll be the first one in Jersey. Then at a tenner a go you'll start making your money back.
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As I posted in my previous thread I live in JERSEY look that up on the register and get back to me?!?!?!
If I could afford one I would but after getting a mortgage I have very little money and all I wanted was a cheap lead.
Everyone does something illgeal once in the life like breaking the speed limit etc etc and all I want is a cheap lead
Utter madness
Just buy whatever you want then and just get on with it rather than moaning about it!
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Where is @Hedge (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=171) with that big bag of popcorn? :signLOL:
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@Hedge (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=171) will be alone shortly with said popcorn and associated soft drink.
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Still proves my point though!!!
You've singled one piece of equipment out of many that people have on here.
All I was after was a simple bit of advice which is pretty much the whole point in a forum.
Didn't ask for pointless immature comments !!!!
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You want something, but can't afford it. You ask where the best place is to buy a stolen one. You get annoyed when told that stealing (or buying stolen goods) isn't allowed to be discussed on the forum?
If you look on Ebay you'll see that second hand "genuine" VCDS cables can sell for anything up to and over the cost of a new cable, so you're not buying something which is £250 wasted and lost. You buy it, support Ross Tech who do all the research, use it as much as you wish (saving yourself time and money over the dealers every time), then when you decide it's no longer needed you can recoup most of your money back.
If you class my comment as pointless and immature, then so be it, but that won't make your point any more valid really.
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Still proves my point though!!!
You've singled one piece of equipment out of many that people have on here.
All I was after was a simple bit of advice which is pretty much the whole point in a forum.
Didn't ask for pointless immature comments !!!!
We can keep going with this if you want but nothing will change.
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Didn't say it was going to change anything.
But on your forum your letting people post replica illegal wheels for sale what's the difference
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#Viking I didn't say your comments were immature and pathetic it's the pathetic popcorn comments that are childish
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Didn't say it was going to change anything.
But on your forum your letting people post replica illegal wheels for sale what's the difference
Replica wheels are made by someone in a factory with bought and paid for materials, on bought and paid for equipment. If they were going round to BBS factory and pinching their stock, then changing things slightly so that they were untraceable by BBS, and selling them cheaply, that would be more or less the same as VCDS. A better analogy would be as said before, where someone steals a Revo remap, decompiles it, removes copy protection, and sells copies of it to people at a cut price.
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My justification for owning a genuine VCDS lead.
A genuine lead, which has been though 1000s of hours R&D, software supported by a bricks and mortar company who release regular updates is considerably less likely to F@@k up my car than a cheap ass Chinese copy with cracked software.
Simple :happy2: