MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: rickyquicky on October 13, 2014, 10:36:19 am

Title: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: rickyquicky on October 13, 2014, 10:36:19 am
Hopefully someone can shed a little light on an issue with my car.

Recently the battery went flat whilst sat in the car with the radio and lights left on (silly i know!)

Someone stopped and connected jump leads to the car to attempt to start it back up, but it didn't work.

The breakdown company came out and attempted to start but with no luck, he said fuel was coming through but the engine just turns over but will not 'fire'

Have been told I have potentially blown the ECU - if so, does anyone have VAG-COM around SE London/Kent area (I live in Bexleyheath, Kent). Would vag-com be able to tell if the ECU is shot?

If the ECU has blown what is the best way to get it rectified?

Thanks in advance!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: Scottymon on October 13, 2014, 11:07:09 am
TSI :scared: http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/266114-18tsi-and-20tsi-engine-failures/

Hope the timing chain hasn't slipped as above.

Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: rickyquicky on October 13, 2014, 12:14:03 pm
Sorry, I should have said, it's a 1.4 TSI DSG



Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: rickyquicky on October 13, 2014, 12:28:08 pm
How can I tell if the ECU might have blown?

Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: Scottymon on October 13, 2014, 12:37:55 pm
bad checksum via VCDS/VAS if it connects at all.
Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: doylebros on October 13, 2014, 06:11:14 pm
Have you tried using your other key FOB incase that is the issue?
Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: omeydz on October 13, 2014, 06:21:12 pm
What year is it and what mileage mate? Reading around, if the chain has started to slip/stretch then its been documented engine is harder to start. Get Vagcom on before jumping to conclusions! Good luck!

In the process of getting dealers to look at my 2011 1.4TSI 122 54k miles Golf as the engine sounds a bit more rattly than usual. Suspected chain tensioner issues intermittently and no errors on vagcom.
Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: rickyquicky on October 14, 2014, 10:05:56 am
It's pretty much the same as yours mate...2011 1.4 tsi 122, but with a DSG gearbox

I've not yet tried the spare key, i'll try that tonight

Anyone with Vagcom around my area?

Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: bigmig95 on October 14, 2014, 10:57:44 am
It's pretty much the same as yours mate...2011 1.4 tsi 122, but with a DSG gearbox

I've not yet tried the spare key, i'll try that tonight

Anyone with Vagcom around my area?

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,88875.0.html

Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: omeydz on October 14, 2014, 05:25:30 pm
It's pretty much the same as yours mate...2011 1.4 tsi 122, but with a DSG gearbox

I've not yet tried the spare key, i'll try that tonight

Anyone with Vagcom around my area?

My folks are in Bexley but Im away with work so if you havent got it sorted by the time im back in a month or so then I can help! Just drop me a pm  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: rickyquicky on October 19, 2014, 08:36:08 pm
Thanks for the replies so far.

Little update...

Got my hands on a snap-on ethos scanner, it came up with 24 various fault codes, but nothing from engine control module. When trying to connect, it would just come up with an error that it could not identify engine control module.

Sounds like the ecu is buggered then?

Is there a fuse for the engine control module?

Cheers
Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: DDM on October 20, 2014, 08:39:10 am
Have you tried a different fully charged battery, if you try jumping a car that has a flat battery fitted sometimes the ecu reads there's less amps/volts than it needs To start and won't allow it.
Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: rickyquicky on October 20, 2014, 12:33:06 pm
I tried a different battery yesterday evening, no joy

Does anyone know if there is a fuse/relay for the ECU? This will be the last thing I want to check before getting the ECU repaired/replaced
Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: omeydz on October 20, 2014, 01:20:27 pm
Check the fuses in the engine with multimeter on resistance mode to check for blown fuses/relays.

Maybe worth getting mobile mechanic round to check these and other basic stuff if you arent too car savvy? ECU swap is pricey and used ECUs will need programming and immo work etc..

Good luck and hope its something simple!!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: Eniqmatic on October 20, 2014, 03:43:33 pm
What year is the car? :O
Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: rickyquicky on October 21, 2014, 08:55:44 am
It's a 2011.

If it does turn out to be the ECU, can a used one be programmed using vag-com?
Title: Re: Golf mk6 TSI - Battery went flat, now will not start
Post by: Eniqmatic on October 21, 2014, 01:30:33 pm
You would need to match the ECU to the keys and Cluster at the very minimum for it to work, there may be more in that new a car. Will also be a tricore ECU so possibly a bit harder. I have a bench cable for use with VCDS if that helps at all? Would mean removing the ECU though.