MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: Schorly on October 14, 2014, 09:12:34 am
-
Hi, I have recently purchased my 2009 Golf Mk5 with an RNS510. I have tried various ways which I found on the internet to get to the hidden menu to find out what version I am running, but no luck. So I don't know what Firmware I currently have and I assume my maps are V3 as I have the original discs which tell me.
I would like to upgrade the lot. Can I go straight to the latest firmware which I can find , i.e. 5238 and the latest maps, i.e. V11? Anything to watch out for or is it as straight forward as burning the disc and put them in to the RNS510? Do I need this VCDS equipment, which I don't have and I don't have access to?
Any help, please?
-
Need to know what part number your unit is really before making any decision as to what firmware etc. you can safely run to. Pull the unit and take a look at the part number on the sticker on the top is the only really straight forward way to tell.
-
I could not wait ... too excited. I updated from whatever I had to 3810 and later to 5328. All still working. The hidden menu is now accessible via the setup button pressed for a while.
I now need to find the right maps. The download link I find on one website is a right pain waiting for all the files. Not sure however what to do once I have downloaded them all. Do I just unzip them and stick them randomly on a DVD?
-
The zip file when decompressed will give you an iso file that you can burn to a dual layer DVD. It's recommended to use DVD+R DL from a good brand like Verbatim.
Josi's modified version of the 5238 firmware is compatible will all RNS-510 versions. If you used that one, you're fine. It's the one I have in mine as well. :wink:
Cheers
-
The firmware I have already updated and the FW 5238 which i got worked fine for me.
The files for the maps are the problem. I understand there are about 28 files to download, which takes time and I don't know how to put them back together in the to burn them an a DVD.
-
I use a free program to decompress/compress files called 7z. You just open the first file, since they should be numbered, and decompress those 28 files in one big file that should be *.iso, which is a DVD image. You burn the DVD image to a DVD+R DL. If done right, you just need to put the DVD in your RNS-510 and after a while it'll ask you if you wish to copy the maps from the DVD to the hard drive inside.
-
I might need an IT lesson here from you if you don't mind. I have the 7Z software. When open it up I get a list of files, which are in the directory as selected in the above bar. When I see all 28 files in there (assuming this is what I have to do) then what? I have ADD, EXTRACT, TEST, COPY, MOVE, DELETE and INFO. Any help would be great, thanks
-
If you double click the 1st file of the 28, you should see the iso file. Then drag that file to a folder of the File Explorer. After that burn the file to a DVD Dual-Layer.
The program will automatically extract the file to the folder you selected.
-
Thanks, I will try as soon as I have the files. At the moment I only have 5 out of 28. Might be just after Christmas when I have finished.
-
I have a rns510 I've been aching to update for ages but never had any one know where I can get the disc etc??
-
Schorly can you send me a link please?
-
for Firmware update you find everything you need here:
http://www.my-gti.com/ (http://www.my-gti.com/)
You pick the firmware you want, unzip it and burn it on the DVD, pop it in the CD slot and than you start doubting yourself, but be brave to press the 'yes, I agree and take responsibility' acknowledgement twice. Than your pulse starts to raise and you see the progress screen. Some percent progress stages take ages and you think it is all over. Sometimes the screen goes black and sometimes it gets all quiet as if it has died. But don't intervene. In my case it came back and completed the process. It takes about an hour, or just under. When all is done you feel epic.
-
For the Map update I went here:
http://gpsunderground.com/forum/volkswagen-seat-skoda/23538-rns-510-v10-west-europe-cd_8048-a.html (http://gpsunderground.com/forum/volkswagen-seat-skoda/23538-rns-510-v10-west-europe-cd_8048-a.html)
There is a link on it, which takes you to an upload page with 28 files on it. I am too greedy to pay the extra money for easier download, so I do it the hard way. One file downloads in about one hour and you can only download one file every 180min. This is painfully long. When I have done all this I will try to burn the files to a DVD as I have learnt form Shoduchi above.
I keep my fingers crossed
-
I know have all the 28 files. All extracted and burnt to the DVD. The file structure on the DVD looks like this:
- config
- db
- dbal
- edb
- speech
- telemat
- tpd
cdrom.toc
dpinfo
files.cfg
The problem is now that the unit (RSNS510) says there is a disk/dvd error and does not accept the disk. Any ideas? Do I need to do anything else other than inserting the disk?
-
What brand DVD DL have you used?
-
Verbatim 4xDVD-R DL
-
Some RNS-510 prefer DVD+R DL. The brand you used is good.
You can try to burn again and do it at the slowest speed possible.
-
What is the difference between a DVD-R and a DVD+R? I have burnt with 4x, which was the lowest I can go to I think. Is the RNS510 really that fussy?
-
Yeah, they get fussy with age, unfortunately. One of the reasons I got a P version as I had to burn 5-6x a DVD DL to update the maps.
My laptop can burn at 2,4x. Last time I had to clean the lenses of the burner with a cotton tip embedded in alcohol and apply some force to make it burn correctly the DVD. 7 years laptop also gets the lenses dirty. :laugh:
-
Maybe I should try and go for the update via the SD card. As far as I understand a DVD is used only to trick the unit in taken the files from the SD card rather than trying to read them off the DVD. The DVD to trick them can be a normal DVD and does not nee to be dual layer. Have you had any experience with updating via SD?
Both, my laptop and my PC can ready the disk fine, it is just the RNS510. Maybe a clean of the unit would help? I think I still have an CD-player cleaning kit somewhere with a little brush fitted to the disk for cleaning the lens. I will have a look later.
-
I never tried the SD Card map update but it's a good alternative. Check the gpsunderground forum, they explain how to do it.
-
The SD card method involves a firmware update procedure and is subject to the usual "You have been warned" warnings. Also, once done you'll lose all the other available voice / language packs which you may find useful at some point.
It's much better to get a properly sorted maps disc and do the job properly than take the cop out option and use the SD card. Don't think that because something can be done, that it should be done. There's a steady stream of users who did the SD card fix and now don't have an RNS510 they can use....
-
Viking seems to have a lot of experience with these units. Better do what he recommends. It can be hard to copy the maps sometimes but it's risk free.
Keep trying to burn better DVDs or try cleaning your RNS-510 lenses with a good CD/DVD lenses cleaner to avoid damaging the lenses.
-
Oh, I was not aware of this. it sounds like the installation from an SD card is not a 'full' installation? The website I was looking at implicated that all is the same other than the process of updating and the end result is the same than using a disk? Nothing was said a firmware update either and I have done this already to the latest I could find. So it is just the maps left for me.
I just started to burn another DVD with 2x speed and a Pioneer dvd drive. I will use the same DVD-R DL from Verbatim. If time tonight I will try it.
-
I found my cleaning disk and cleaned the lens. I tried the disk again but it still came up with the disk error.
Not much longer and the 2nd disk is ready for me to try.
-
How are you burning the discs (what program)? And here's a tip. Use Verbatim DVD+R DL discs...
-
I am using the burn-to-disk function within windows 7. I burn at 2x speed. I am using Verbatim DVD-R DL. What is the difference between +R and -R
-
Stop wasting discs using Windows burning software. The maps should be an .iso file which means they need burning with an image burning program. Download free program imgburn, install, "right click" on the maps .iso and select "open with > imgburn". Then tick the box that says verify, then select burn speed of X1. Then burn a DVD+R DL Verbatim disc.
-
I will, I will.
Just downloaded the imgburn. What is the difference between a +R and a -R DVD Dual Layer?
-
What's the difference between summer tyres and winter tyres? They look the same, don't they? :wink:
+R & -R are different formats essentially. And most RNS units seem to prefer the +R format.
-
Ok, I understand if you say different formats, thanks for the information. I will need to get some +R DVDs fist though.
But your analogy between winter tyres and summer tyres is shocking. Apart from both being round there is a huge difference and it is visible as well. :signLOL:
-
Insofar as they both perform differently it's the perfect analogy. They're the same shape, same colour, same size, and if you know where to look they're not the same even to the naked eye. I can't tell the difference between them because I don't bother looking. I just use discs that work. :wink:
-
Well, if you think so.
Just tried out the imgburn with one of my left over -R DVDs and they have been accepted by the RNS510. I have agreed to install the files rather than work form the disk an so far I assume the update is running. Is there anywhere to see the progress?
-
If you saw a message asking if you want to copy the new maps to the hard drive you're set. After 5 min. you can safely press eject and then you'll see how far the process is. Normally it takes around 1h to finish.
-
I looked last night at the progress bar, but none was shown. So I thought I leave it running over night. Came down this morning and still no progress shown. So I took the disk out but when going on MAP the satnav said to insert a navigation DVD, so I put it back in. When pressing EJECT it showed the screen saying that the maps are being downloaded and if I eject the disk the process will be aborted, but the progress bar did not move (even not after 1/2 hour). So I took it out again and now the SETUP menu shows now no maps installed. So I used my old V3 disk again to reinstall the old maps and this is showing progress and it is about 3/4 through the installation. After the old map is back on, I will try the update disk again, I think.
-
Old map is back on, new disk in and it showed the disk error again. Took it back out and out it back it and it made a lot of noise, but I got to the 'copy and replace old with new data' screen and this time I have a 5mm wide grey progress bar showing. Another step further than last night, hurray.
-
Your RNS-510 is reading the DVD but with some difficulty. Be patient and keep trying or burn another disc. Some come out better than others.
DVD+R are easier to read for most RNS-510, like Viking said. :wink:
-
Went to see the progress, but the progress bar was empty. Left it for 1/2 hour and went back and now the unit was switched off. I switched it back on, but the progress bar was still empty. Ejected the disk and put it back in and it said disk error. Ejected the disk and put it back in and it started loading again. Now I have about 20mm progress. Mind, there is about another 100mm to go.
Doe you know if the unit switches itself off when the central locking is locked? Maybe the updating progress was interrupted, because I keep on locking. So this time I left the door slightly open and all unlocked, maybe this makes a difference?
-
The unit will shut down after around 30 min. with the ignition off. When the RNS-510 can read well your DVD, I think the copying process can restart from the previous position. When it has difficulties it restarts from the beginning and keeps in that loop forever. While you have your DVD inserted it can use the DVD to show the map and calculate routes.
Better forget that DVD... Try a new one or a DVD+R DL from Verbatim.
-
Yes, I think the update progress gets sofar and then stops. Only taking out and putting the DVD back in restarts the process, but ends again after showing the same progress as previously. So I will get some +R DVDs and start again.
-
On my way home I thought I just give it another try with the disk and guess what, the progress bar went over the 20mm mark and on and on.I did not want to switch the engine off, before all is updated and it went all the way through. So now all is updated to V10 and I found during my searches that V11 is the latest map. Here we go, I will try this on the weekend, this time with +R disks from the beginning.
-
Just read about speed cameras for V10 and V11. I think this would be a good addition, in particular with my points-count. I understand there is a data base which I can add to POI? Anybody knows where to get this from and how to install it?
-
The database for the UK I can't help you. The rest you need POInspect0r, which is a small program that can make a POI file that you can import to your RNS-510. It's what I use. :wink:
-
Is it rns510.poi.inspector.V5.8?
-
Yes. :happy2:
Official site: http://poinspect0r.blogspot.pt/
-
Downloaded the software, started to read the user guide, looks straight forward. I even can use an SD card to import the data as I understand. Just need the database for the speed cameras. How often do they change/update?
-
Hi, the camera database updates are quite frequent, perhaps on a weekly basis, mainly as they include movement of mobile cameras. Since the process to add them to the VW Nav means putting them in as POI you probably only want to do this every few months, assuming you are worried about the mobile ones. For £19.99 you get the full UK camera database with free updates for a full year (pocketgpsworld), this allows you to get them as a file to use as POI and also can be used on a smartphone with Cameralert, or other warning software.
I have the full set of RAR files containing the V10 maps which is mentioned earlier in this thread and should also have the camera database soon, so if you want to avoid paying 4.99 euro to the downloading site which is hosting them I can make them available on Dropbox, which is free. PM me and I'll send you the link.
Haven't got the maps on the Nav unit yet, it needs the dual-layer DVDs due to the number of files so have ordered a pack, fingers crossed.
Tom
-
The current map version is V12 (2015). I posted a link for a torrent in Pirate Bay before it was closed. Now it should be available in the new Pirate Bay site.