MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Scottymon on November 01, 2014, 03:38:28 pm
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After ripping out the airbox / battery / alternator etc. yesterday to check for a wiring problem... replce everything, get the usual traffic light on the dash, drove it for a bit all go out.
But today, ESP light stays on with error:
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102
Revision: 00T12001
Coding: 0004738
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 408B44336A13
1 Fault Found:
01435 - Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
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I reset the fault for it to return immediately. ESP light stays on.
It seems a bit of a conicidence I was messing about yesterday for this to show up.
Does anyone know where the brake pressure sensor is? Help me out, having nothing but trouble lately :(
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No wishing to sound like I'm taking the p***, but have you checked the fuses in both fuse boxes to make sure that when you re-applied the power you didn't blow one?
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No wishing to sound like I'm taking the p***, but have you checked the fuses in both fuse boxes to make sure that when you re-applied the power you didn't blow one?
I haven't mate, time strapped lately with little people, lol --- willing to try all suggestions, and thanks.
I'm just hoping it's not the dreaded ABS pump :scared:
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If you got a Haynes manual or something, have a look at where any braking system fuses are in the car and check each one carefully to see if it's gone. Hopefully it's one of those gone due to the added stresses of power surges from playing around with the battery.
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I had a similar issue with g201 code showing last year after i had removed battery to change steering wheel and after a google, i also dreaded the worst!
However, it may be that the brake pressure sensor, that is inside the ABS module needs basic settings doing.
I did basic settings for steering angle, lateral acceleration and brake pressure sensor and eventually the lights went out. It took a few goes though.
See here:
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Brake_Electronics_(MK60)#Sensor_for_Steering_Angle_.28G85.29
Did you disturb the wiring going to the ABS module? Try removing cleaning / plugging back in?
Hope this helps.
Jas
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Thanks for your suggestions :)
Regarding Fuses turns out they are all listed in the handbook, I pulled & replaced two 30A ones for the ABS/PAS... it really didn't like that, lol --- lost power steering basic settings but easily sorted, sadly the ESP/ABS problem is still there.
I checked the plug into the ABS module, it's a monster plug and PITA location (But I guess much better than our American cousins who would probably have to remove the master cylinder to even see it), I disconnected and reconnected.
I tried the G201 Basic Settings recal.
Firstly it wouldn't let me in, but did the security method and then could see it and tried to do the basic settings but it Returned ERROR.
I checked the pressure, which sat at 250bar or something daft, where's it is meant to be +-8.0 bar.
It seems so daft and coincidental that this could be the ABS pump... I've had lots of phantom errors before when removing the battery etc. but they've always been sorted with a basic setting recal. or just driving it.
Poor timing too, as I like ESP in the winter as it's kept me out of the weeds a few times on snow/ice.
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I had the pump go on mine a few years ago, after being in the car all day, got home went inside and returned later to put car back on the driveway and the fault was there, no warning or symptoms, just g201. There not bad to do once you get the airbox/ battery and battery tray out of the way.
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Had this problem at the start of the year and had to replace the abs pump....striaght forward job costing in the 200 pound region
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Cheers chaps --- I'm in denile it's the ABS pump atm, lol.
I still have my original Alternator wiring issue (I've got a loom on order) £10, so I'll replace that first.
Then I'm going to try clearing all codes and re-do the basic settings coding multiple times.
Then try a new Brake Pedal Switch; £5
Then finally admit defeat and either buy a second hand pump or the Fix kit and DIY it.
Oh and the A/C still needs doing which I'm hoping is not the compressor and more bucks.
The amount of parts I've replaced on this motor, I'm slowly building a brand new car. :grin:
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With your A/C, does it make any funny noises when in use like whining or grinding noise? If not, could be just a faulty pressure switch or O ring which is cheap to replace.
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Computer says no... haven't had the A/C topped up yet and that's what it's moaning about, but we'll see :|
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If it's low on gas then chances are is the switch or O rings gone. If the compressor is knackered you'd hear it whining or grinding itself into oblivion. Hope that's some good news for you.
My diesel before my GTI became a problem child, I sold it off as I'd rather take the hit than spend ages chasing faults. Just saying...
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Thanks mate, yes hoping for the best (always:)
It's defo been a bit of a problem but it does have some miles on it now; cest la vie.
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Two options;
Admit defeat, sell it and take it on the chin
Turn it into an all out project, replace everything where you can and just live with a never ending project.
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What's the alternator wiring issue?
The pressure switch is inside the abs pump. Changing the brake light switch won't help, plus it's a pita to get to as it's under the master cylinder. You need a new abs pump.
Regular brake fluid changes can help stop the fault.
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The alty fault is: 01117 - Generator Terminal DF Load Signal: Implausible Signal
Re: ESP/ABS, Reason I was going to try for the brake pedal switch was the cheapness of the part and that the rosstech wiki specifies it as a possible solution to the g201 error: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01435#01435_-_Brake_Pressure_Sensor_1_.28G201.29:_Electrical_Fault_in_Circuit
Read somewhere that if its the brake pedal switch then the cruise control won't cancel via with a brake tap.
Is there any particular ABS revision that's best? Like the Rev Q Throttle bodies..?
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You can read the pedal switch in block 060 iirc. When you press the pedal it will go from a 0 to a 1. The switch works when a magnet inside the master cylinder passes the sensor. Not like the old mk4 ones that were on the pedal.
As your pressure sensor reads 250 bar (it's max reading) then my money is on that. There is only one version. Bought as a repair kit for not much money now.
What have you tried so far with the alternator issue?
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Cheers Alex, not tried much atm, was waiting on a loom (that hasn't materialised) as the Alternator / Pulley / Battery / Belt are all fairly new.
Haven't got much time atm, is it dangerous to be driving with the G201 problem? I'm not doing mega miles, but still.
Also, by actually getting the G201 error is the system communicating with the part? OR could it be a wiring issue... reason I'm hanging on that, is that it's so conicidental that I didn't even drive the car far after having everything out; round the block and that error showed up... just don't want to chuck hundreds at it, for it to be wiring related.