MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: SiofChester on November 10, 2014, 04:35:08 pm
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Howdo folks, So I'm in the market for a new car, it's time for a change from the Boxster I have right now. Budget is around 8-13K which is a wide range but I cant make my mind up between a remapped, RNS510'd DSG Ed 30 and a remapped DSG MK6. There's a few nice ed 30's out there around 8-9K but they look a little dated in comparison to the Mk6's but then I lose the desirability of the Ed 30 :laugh:
What are people's thoughts?
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Ed30
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^^^^^ What he said :happy2:
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Dated or not the ED30 is a future classic . What other car could you get with so much history and potential . If you want just a car then get the GTI if you want something to be passionate about get the ED30 . I sold mine in April due to only having space for 3 cars on our drive , if i had space for 4 i would have kept it forever , fantastic , you will have no regrets .
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ED30 :happy2:
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I had similar choices (without the boxter history)...........now own a lurvely ED30........... :jumpmove:
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Ed30, no doubts about it. Much more potential. Only xDS, ACC and xenon AFS aren't possible or that easy to retrofit. I think the rest is possible.
Just take a look around in the members projects section and you'll see what I mean. :wink:
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ED30 no question! Would you want a TSI up front? I know I wouldn't...
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Why not also consider the Golf R as they do good deals both new and second hand.
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Ask yourself how comfortable you are with potential timing chain issues on the mk 6?
That is enough of a reason to steer clear as far as I am concerned.
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Why not also consider the Golf R as they do good deals both new and second hand.
That would be my choice without a doubt
Mk6 R any day over both the others although will need to increase the budget a bit but more than worth it in my oppinion :smiley:
Maybe its just me but i dont see it with the ed30 at all, certainly doesn't warrant the huge price difference over say a fully loaded GTi
Just my 2p mate
Sure you be happy whatever you decide :happy2:
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If the Golf R isn't for you, consider an Edition 35 GTI, it's far less common than either the Golf R or Edition 30 GTI.
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ED 30 all day long pal couldn't fault my old one at all, yes they are slightly dated but tuning potential and looks outweigh the mk6. Unless it's the Mk6R of course, if you could stretch your budget a little more they are great cars.
I feel the mk6 gti just doesn't look special enough.
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Out of the 2 I'd go for the ed30, ed35 combines the best of both though :happy2:
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The Ed35 seems very expensive to me around £20k.
With mk7 Gti approaching the same price and obviously falling, doesn't a mk 7 make more sense?
Asking the question rather than making a definitive statement! :smiley:
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Depends if you want to tune it. ED30 has more potential for tuning. Mk6 looks more modern, although many of mech bits are the same and interchangeable. Go to see both, drive them and see which one floats your boat more.
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...for little money and big tuneable power it has to be edition 30.
...if you want the best and are prepared to save a little more, it has to be the mk7R.
...everything beneath it is dated.
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ED30 all day, MK6 doesn't do much for me generally.
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Wowsers, an overwhelming vote for the Ed 30!!!!! I've found one I like the look of, but it's about 250 miles away grrrrrrrrrrrrr
Thanks all
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Wowsers, an overwhelming vote for the Ed 30!!!!! I've found one I like the look of, but it's about 250 miles away grrrrrrrrrrrrr
Thanks all
btw Si, you are on the Mk5 GTI forum ....... we may be a little biased ... :signLOL:
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The main difference between the 2 mentioned by treadstarter is the engine, all 3 mentioned by members here, ED30, Golf 6R and ED35 all share the EA113 engine that is rock solid, has fantastic tuning potentiale, (I'm running just shy of 500bhp on my stock EA113 engine), whereas the mk 6 GTI has the EA888 engine with a chain instead of a cambelt. Although the EA888 has a much better fuelling system, that's about it, it has long been sitting in the shadow of the older EA113 regarding high output, latest the old EA113 was taken off the shelf and put in the Polo WRC.
So my money would go for any of the EA113, with special look for the rare ED35 for FWD and Golf 6 R for 4wd :happy2:
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Why not also consider the Golf R as they do good deals both new and second hand.
His budget is 8-13k !
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Why not also consider the Golf R as they do good deals both new and second hand.
That would be my choice without a doubt
Mk6 R any day over both the others although will need to increase the budget a bit but more than worth it in my oppinion :smiley:
You've never had an Ed30 though :innocent:
Maybe its just me but i dont see it with the ed30 at all, certainly doesn't warrant the huge price difference over say a fully loaded GTi
Just my 2p mate
Sure you be happy whatever you decide :happy2:
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Wowsers, an overwhelming vote for the Ed 30!!!!! I've found one I like the look of, but it's about 250 miles away grrrrrrrrrrrrr
Thanks all
If you drive towards the location of the ED30 the distance will be less and less until you get there and there it will be waiting for you :happy2:
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lol, It looks so nice, it might even be worth a flight over to Norwich!!!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/07-Volkswagen-Golf-2-0T-FSI-GTI-Edition-30-DSG-48-500-MILES-WITH-FSH-/221599354611?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item339859cef3
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Looks like a nice example
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Why not also consider the Golf R as they do good deals both new and second hand.
His budget is 8-13k !
That's buying outright but on hpi or pcp they can be had for under £300 pcm
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Why not also consider the Golf R as they do good deals both new and second hand.
That would be my choice without a doubt
Mk6 R any day over both the others although will need to increase the budget a bit but more than worth it in my oppinion :smiley:
Maybe its just me but i dont see it with the ed30 at all, certainly doesn't warrant the huge price difference over say a fully loaded GTi
Just my 2p mate
Sure you be happy whatever you decide :happy2:
X2 neither do I, plus they seem to out number the normal gti's on here aka common as muck :wink:
The way people talk of the eddy is as if it's a total different car altogether, to me it's just some extra badges and alloys. Don't get me wrong I like them but They are no more special than a normal gti IMHO minus the k04
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danishmkvgti explained well why so many like so much the Ed. 30. It's not the looks alone that set it apart from the GTI, it's the great engine it has.
Of course an Ed. 35 for a FWD or a mk6 R would be better than the Ed. 30, but that comes with a price as well.
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my edition 30 got stolen in feb, so bought an r.
i wouldnt have changed my edition 30 for any other car had it not been stolen. whilst the 6r is a fantastic machine (stage 2+), all wheel drive is good, mid range torque is phenomenal, having driven a gti dsg before I got the eddy, its not just about how it looks, its the way the car drives.
I put 19 in monza reps on mine and people commented everywhere i went. 6R whilst rare..fits in if you get me.
hoarse for courses...if it was my money id do an edition 30...the mk6 gti is nice, but 10 a penny IMO although also a nice car.
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The way people talk of the eddy is as if it's a total different car altogether, to me it's just some extra badges and alloys. Don't get me wrong I like them but They are no more special than a normal gti IMHO minus the k04
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We had a GTI and an ED30 in our home for about a year . As you say there isn't much difference , driven back to back normally there is no difference . Drive them with a bit more spirit and there is a difference , £2-£3k difference for the same spec/year and is it worth it ? For a small outlay a Bluefin remap (£350) gives you virtually 300bhp so then for £2350 - £3350 extra you get a totally different animal and a car that really puts a smile on your face . Then get back in the GTI and say you'd rather have that !
It really is how you want to drive your car that will dictate what you buy . I took off the Bluefin as i didn't use the bhp but i put it back on , it was as if mentally i was in a car with a different engine , i had the power if i wanted it and that made me feel better .
I now drive a Freelander 2 , tow bar , diesel , 4x4 , i miss the ED30 :sad1:
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You could always consider a Pirelli Edition for that extra exclusivity
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The way people talk of the eddy is as if it's a total different car altogether, to me it's just some extra badges and alloys. Don't get me wrong I like them but They are no more special than a normal gti IMHO minus the k04
We had a GTI and an ED30 in our home for about a year . As you say there isn't much difference , driven back to back normally there is no difference . Drive them with a bit more spirit and there is a difference , £2-£3k difference for the same spec/year and is it worth it ? For a small outlay a Bluefin remap (£350) gives you virtually 300bhp so then for £2350 - £3350 extra you get a totally different animal and a car that really puts a smile on your face . Then get back in the GTI and say you'd rather have that !
It really is how you want to drive your car that will dictate what you buy . I took off the Bluefin as i didn't use the bhp but i put it back on , it was as if mentally i was in a car with a different engine , i had the power if i wanted it and that made me feel better .
I now drive a Freelander 2 , tow bar , diesel , 4x4 , i miss the ED30 :sad1:
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But for me a boggo standard kind of chap the extra power when mapped etc doesn,t interest me at all so in back to back comparison of a ed30 or Gti its just not worth the extra hence why I bought a sorted minty 2008 Gti!
Ed30 is not special enough, power very similar etc!
Now look at different type model of car for example focus St vs focus Rs one is a absolute animal compared to the other where as with the Gti and ed30 its just not the case!
Why didn't vw give the ed30 a decent limited slip diff to try tame the power at front wheels for a start off
Mk6 Golf R be my choice mate as fwd is shire with anything over 200bhp especially with the lack of decent didd
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ED 30 all day long pal couldn't fault my old one at all, yes they are slightly dated but tuning potential and looks outweigh the mk6. Unless it's the Mk6R of course, if you could stretch your budget a little more they are great cars.
I feel the mk6 gti just doesn't look special enough.
Could say the same of the 6R? The cooking models have a similar front end.
I like both, initially when the new Golf is released I'm unsure of the changes. Each release has grown on me.
ED35 would bring a blend of refreshed styling and the well proven TFSI powertrain. Unfortunately the used prices conflict with the MK7, I wouldn't put that sort of money on a 2005 chassis design which gives the ED30 much better value if you plan on tuning.
Pirelli is a good shout, not a fan of the Tartan in ED30.
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The way people talk of the eddy is as if it's a total different car altogether, to me it's just some extra badges and alloys. Don't get me wrong I like them but They are no more special than a normal gti IMHO minus the k04
We had a GTI and an ED30 in our home for about a year . As you say there isn't much difference , driven back to back normally there is no difference . Drive them with a bit more spirit and there is a difference , £2-£3k difference for the same spec/year and is it worth it ? For a small outlay a Bluefin remap (£350) gives you virtually 300bhp so then for £2350 - £3350 extra you get a totally different animal and a car that really puts a smile on your face . Then get back in the GTI and say you'd rather have that !
It really is how you want to drive your car that will dictate what you buy . I took off the Bluefin as i didn't use the bhp but i put it back on , it was as if mentally i was in a car with a different engine , i had the power if i wanted it and that made me feel better .
I now drive a Freelander 2 , tow bar , diesel , 4x4 , i miss the ED30 :sad1:
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Forget tuning you can't compare a stock car to a tuned one at all, not everyone tunes so to them people the extra cost for so little extra would be a waste IMHO. As above it's not special enough 250+bhp , bigger brakes and a diff would of made it more tasty and more of a real 'special' edition then I might of had one sitting on the drive.
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X2 neither do I, plus they seem to out number the normal gti's on here aka common as muck :wink:
The way people talk of the eddy is as if it's a total different car altogether, to me it's just some extra badges and alloys. Don't get me wrong I like them but They are no more special than a normal gti IMHO minus the k04
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And not forgetting the forged pistons, stronger rod bolts & pins, bigger injectors, recirc valve relocated, improved main bearing caps and pedestals. And of course there's the residual value.
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X2 neither do I, plus they seem to out number the normal gti's on here aka common as muck :wink:
The way people talk of the eddy is as if it's a total different car altogether, to me it's just some extra badges and alloys. Don't get me wrong I like them but They are no more special than a normal gti IMHO minus the k04
And not forgetting the forged pistons, stronger rod bolts & pins, bigger injectors, recirc valve relocated, improved main bearing caps and pedestals. And of course there's the residual value.
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Yes a de tuned s3 engine, ko4 lump I should of wrote also you don't need residual valve when you pay less to start with.
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It's all about percentage of purchase cost retained after 'x' years rather than initial expenditure. It's likely (but not a given) that ltd edition models will do better in the long term.
None of this 'spec' discussion should be confused with a decision to buy which may privately be one of economics.
When I say economics I don't mean who can afford what, but rather what they have chosen to afford. They're not the same :wink: Just before anyone goes off on one :signLOL:
I don't mean this to be inflammatory, just wanted to say that IMO the Ed 30 is significantly different but at the same time I accept that the extra £'s in purchase price may seem like a poor return for some...which is also fine.
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Wowsers, an overwhelming vote for the Ed 30!!!!! I've found one I like the look of, but it's about 250 miles away grrrrrrrrrrrrr
Thanks all
If you drive towards the location of the ED30 the distance will be less and less until you get there and there it will be waiting for you :happy2:
I took a one way train journey from the midlands to Edinburgh to get the right one :-)