MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 13, 2014, 08:07:21 pm: Hi everyone! Just joined as I am thinking of taking a GTi for a test drive next week with the possibility of purchasing it however wanted to ask you all some advice.

Its an 07 plate GTi up for 5K and has 115K on the clock.

Does this seem about right for price and also with the amount of miles on the clock is there anything i should know in terms of checking for things that should have been done at this point?

Thanks in advance!

Jason
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Rob1 on December 13, 2014, 08:45:09 pm: Service history, cam belt & water pump spring to mind, although I'm sure other members can provide other areas to check

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Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Matthewsimone on December 13, 2014, 08:55:16 pm: Have a go at the search function for how too's at top of page mate but heres a few things to get you started -

Rust around front wheel arches
Test drive a few as many may feel sluggish due to failed turbo Diverter valve
Ensure has 2 sets of keys as around £190 each from dealers
Decent brand tyres are a must on the Gti especially at this time of year!

Full service history along with timing belt every 60,000 miles

Standard service plane is 10,000 miles long life is 20,000, best to try find one thats been on standard plan but not the end of world aslong as been done on time

Engine should feel responsive and smooth, brakes should be sharp

Plus all standard checks like hpi clear, any panel/paint damage
Clutch not slipping when opened up in 4th/5th gear etc etc

As said search function is your friend :happy2:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 13, 2014, 10:29:58 pm: Thanks for your responses, will be sure to check those things when i take a look at it!
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: numec on December 13, 2014, 11:40:02 pm: Cambelt every 40,000-60,000 miles or 4 years
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: ruhaleali on December 14, 2014, 01:57:26 am: Check the coilpacks and if its a recall model, look at cosmetics if the headlights have marks etc these can be restored. Look for light fitting damage mine had ruined footwell lights best to have these changed by the garage if possible. Make sure not a previous smoker or pet owner can lead to problems, my mate has his and was a previous smoker dangerous smell even with heavy air freshner. Look for loss of boost weak diverter valve can be changed. Background checks to make sure mileage hasnt been adjusted. Look underneath and ensure the heat shield hasnt been damaged as it can lead to a heavy rattling noise. Also do check the arches and see if any rust is occuring. Look at the brakes check if they are good set and if the paint is flaking off. Loads to check but these are some that can change your mind. Check the level of rust on the back box also as this can affect the fuel. Look at the evamp and catcan as these can have damage.
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Post by: jaye2992 on December 14, 2014, 02:17:40 pm: As above but i'd add in checking for a rattle/diesel noise when the engine is warm as the cam chain can be expensive as i found out....also check it gets upto temperature nice and quick and stays at 90, the thermostats not cheap to change either.
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Shorty on December 14, 2014, 05:41:40 pm: It's a bit more than you might wanna spend, although I will listen to serious offers, but I've just advertised a lovely GTI, with only 64k miles and it's lovely :)

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,91916.0.html
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 15, 2014, 10:13:56 pm: looked at the golf today and for some reason wasn't convinced. It drove as it should but the wheels were in a state, service history didn't line up and the guy seemed in a rush to sell it which is always a concern, so the search goes on.

Like the look of your car there but like you say its a bit more than i was looking to spend to be honest! great to see one with fewer miles on the clock though
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: numec on December 15, 2014, 10:32:56 pm: Quote from: VW_Jace on December 15, 2014, 10:13:56 pm
looked at the golf today and for some reason wasn't convinced. It drove as it should but the wheels were in a state, service history didn't line up and the guy seemed in a rush to sell it which is always a concern, so the search goes on.

Like the look of your car there but like you say its a bit more than i was looking to spend to be honest! great to see one with fewer miles on the clock though

good luck with the search..i certainly took my time when in search of my 2nd GTI..
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Shorty on December 16, 2014, 12:42:27 pm: Quote from: VW_Jace on December 15, 2014, 10:13:56 pm
looked at the golf today and for some reason wasn't convinced. It drove as it should but the wheels were in a state, service history didn't line up and the guy seemed in a rush to sell it which is always a concern, so the search goes on.

Like the look of your car there but like you say its a bit more than i was looking to spend to be honest! great to see one with fewer miles on the clock though

Can always make me a cheeky offer, I can always say no.

Sometimes it's worth spending a bit more to have a right car, yeah you can spend less but like you have seen you might be buying a lemon..
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Matthewsimone on December 16, 2014, 01:14:51 pm: Buy the best you can afford mate and be patient its best time of year for buyers, winter and near xmas :smiley:
Good service history, low owners, good brand of matching tyres, nice tight gearbox these are all the crucial things that shout im a well looked after motor to me :drinking:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 16, 2014, 07:51:25 pm: Sorry shorty but your in Liverpool anyway so thats not really my area living down here in devon :(

will do guys, will keep my eyes peeled!
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: garrardrj on December 16, 2014, 08:38:09 pm: My advice would be never try to buy a car you cannot really afford , but you can afford one you have found so far . This is never a good move , as you appear to have found with the one you went to see . £5k for a GTI is low especially for a 2007 version . Try older ones but less mileage - Just by upping your budget by £500 can make the world of difference - Good Luck
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: GTIEagles on December 16, 2014, 10:47:20 pm: Hi mate, whereabouts in Devon are you? I'm in Barnstaple and when I was looking for one I couldn't find any local at all and I was looking for a good few months! In the end I travelled 160 miles to view a car and I was pleasantly surprised when I saw it, so I bought it on the spot for a very good price IMO. It's all about luck and whether you're willing to travel if you see one that catches your eye, it's actually good time of the year to buy as the market is so dead sellers will often discount generously. Good luck withe your search.

Phil
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 17, 2014, 11:18:26 am: im in exeter and its definitely more limited down here than it is in the north. Ive seen a few around the birmingham area but i just think i would hate to travel all that way to find its no good! it may come to that but I'm hoping for something a little nearer at first as I'm not really in any rush atm!
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 17, 2014, 09:43:12 pm: Just a quick question, do people generally recommend going for manual over dsg? Ive never driven an auto and automatically assumed i would want a manual but the dsg does look like fun? Is it more likely to go wrong especially now the car is 10 years old?

Cheers,
Jason
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: dansmith180 on December 17, 2014, 09:47:31 pm: Mechatronics might go but on a manual the clutch might go so it's not a big risk buying a DSG over a manual, just make sure it's been serviced properly with a new filter and oil every 40k or 4/5 years.
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Jay75 on December 18, 2014, 11:04:29 pm: There's a lot of nackers out there dude, if you can stretch to 6 grand you can pick something nice up, you wouldn't regret it... :happy2:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 19, 2014, 11:16:47 am: I agree Jay. It seems that the difference between a 5k car to a 6k one is substantial so i think it will be worthwhile spending the extra bit. Ive found one with leather, dsg, 18" monzas, in steel grey with 113k on the clock that I really like for 6.5k so i think thats the type of model I will be looking for!
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: GTIEagles on December 19, 2014, 03:24:19 pm: Quote from: VW_Jace on December 19, 2014, 11:16:47 am
I agree Jay. It seems that the difference between a 5k car to a 6k one is substantial so i think it will be worthwhile spending the extra bit. Ive found one with leather, dsg, 18" monzas, in steel grey with 113k on the clock that I really like for 6.5k so i think thats the type of model I will be looking for!

That sounds a bit steep to be honest. I managed a get one with 100k, FSH, 2 owners, manual & 17" monzas for under 4.5K. Really nice condition but it could do with being machine polished.
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Jay75 on December 20, 2014, 10:03:39 am: I got a mint 06 plate with 60k on it for 6grand' and that was 2 years ago! Yes he wanted more but 6 was all I had and it was simply 'take it or leave it'! You have to negotiate tough, as we all know money is hard to come by, but while you still have it in your hand you have the power... :smiley:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Matthewsimone on December 20, 2014, 10:17:03 am: Quote from: Jay75 on December 20, 2014, 10:03:39 am
I got a mint 06 plate with 60k on it for 6grand' and that was 2 years ago! Yes he wanted more but 6 was all I had and it was simply 'take it or leave it'! You have to negotiate tough, as we all know money is hard to come by, but while you still have it in your hand you have the power... :smiley:

Yep I knocked mine down from £8,000 to £7,200 simply because he made mistake of telling me he had a 7R due for delivery the following week so obviouy he had been made a poor px offer on his Gti, its certainly a buyers market on them as lots of people are going for newer models etc and being offered peanuts for px by the dealers
I recently enquired about new Golf R at Chester dealers and they came back with offer of just over 5k for my minty 57 plate fully loaded Gti obviously I laughed and decided to keep it
Its harsh on the seller but times are hard and you have to be brutal with the negotiating :happy2:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Jay75 on December 20, 2014, 10:48:39 am: Exactly! :happy2:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 20, 2014, 02:43:34 pm: Hmm I'm not sure then because for one of the standard I'm looking for there's nothing under 6k. This is the one I'm looking at currently..

http://www.gumtree.com/p/other-miscellaneous-goods/volkswagon-golf-gti-/1090270749
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Jay75 on December 20, 2014, 05:43:06 pm: What year is it?
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: DamoP on December 20, 2014, 07:24:45 pm: Quote from: VW_Jace on December 17, 2014, 11:18:26 am
im in exeter and its definitely more limited down here than it is in the north. Ive seen a few around the birmingham area but i just think i would hate to travel all that way to find its no good! it may come to that but I'm hoping for something a little nearer at first as I'm not really in any rush atm!

@VW_Jace (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11194)

I'm only teignmouth if you find a local one I'm happy to come and help you look. whats your budget?
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 20, 2014, 07:41:45 pm: It's on a 55 plate so early one but apparently mint.. Thanks damo very kind!
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: DamoP on December 20, 2014, 07:43:19 pm: Quote from: VW_Jace on December 20, 2014, 07:41:45 pm
It's on a 55 plate so early one but apparently mint.. Thanks damo very kind!
np probs mate. give me a shout when your ready
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 20, 2014, 07:58:42 pm: oh and budget is around 6k mark :happy2:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Jay75 on December 20, 2014, 10:09:45 pm: It looks good from the pics dude, if I was looking I would defo be interested. I wouldn't pay more than 6k tho, people have to understand these cars are ten years old now give or take.
Just make sure it's hpi clear and go from there, give the guy a call and explain 6 is all you have and you won't mess him around, that's a serious offer for that car.. :happy2:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 20, 2014, 11:01:35 pm: I did tell the chap that 6k was my budget but he went on to say that he could get that on a trade in and that they are going for over 7k on auto trader... I got a valuation and it came out as 6.5k in good condition so it probably is a tad overpriced. I managed to get it out of him that 6.9k would be his best price but still a tad high I think! :sad1:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Matthewsimone on December 21, 2014, 07:28:40 am: Does seem overpriced on a 55 plate to be honest mate, its quite basic spect too except the wheels!
As said in another post i only gave £7,200 few months ago for my stunning 57 plate, 1 owner fully loaded 3 door metallic black Gti with 67k miles and full dealer history etc
Have noticed people tyring ask more for white ones which makes me laugh also as its a solid colour therefore cheaper :laugh:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Jay75 on December 21, 2014, 08:39:09 am: It's up to you buddy but I wouldn't go a penny over 6k, when I bought my 06 plate 2yrs ago the guy said he was sick of people ringing him and offering 5 or 5 and a half grand! I also offered a dealer 6k for a nice blue one he'd just had in and he gave me the "I will get 7 all day long speech", one week later he rang me back to see if we could do a deal.
Trust me dude 6k is enough to pay for a ten year old golf, if they want too much just walk away, they're out there...
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Post by: Jay75 on December 21, 2014, 08:43:25 am: There's a few on eBay...
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: uk345 on December 21, 2014, 04:11:58 pm: To me that car looks immaculate. Its a shame it is white - the car really does not suit this colour. As previously mentioned, it hasn't got much specification on it at all. You would be kicking yourself if next week one with all the extras came on at the same price. It is a tad overpriced too but people do overprice white cars. Hold out for the right car mate - no point rushing into it and not being satisfied.

Two i found in the for sale section here. I appreciate that the edition 30 is sold but shows you what is out there.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,91123.0.html

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,89525.0.html
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 21, 2014, 04:55:00 pm: Out of interest when you mention it hasn't got much spec what is it you are referring too? I'm aware of sat nav which I'm not bothered about as i'll be using car play and other leather interior but what else should I look out for? I've also seen this one as well which is dsg and leather but more miles...

http://www.ashtonautocentre.net/used-cars/volkswagen-golf-2-0t-gti-5dr-dsg-bristol-201410067989346

definitely won't be rushing into it though but i do have the money here waiting... :jumping:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Matthewsimone on December 21, 2014, 05:13:42 pm: Quote from: uk345 on December 21, 2014, 04:11:58 pm
To me that car looks immaculate. Its a shame it is white - the car really does not suit this colour. As previously mentioned, it hasn't got much specification on it at all. You would be kicking yourself if next week one with all the extras came on at the same price. It is a tad overpriced too but people do overprice white cars. Hold out for the right car mate - no point rushing into it and not being satisfied.

Two i found in the for sale section here. I appreciate that the edition 30 is sold but shows you what is out there.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,91123.0.html

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,89525.0.html

Drivers bolster looks worn on the white one!
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Post by: uk345 on December 21, 2014, 05:17:49 pm: Quote from: VW_Jace on December 21, 2014, 04:55:00 pm
Out of interest when you mention it hasn't got much spec what is it you are referring too? I'm aware of sat nav which I'm not bothered about as i'll be using car play and other leather interior but what else should I look out for? I've also seen this one as well which is dsg and leather but more miles...

http://www.ashtonautocentre.net/used-cars/volkswagen-golf-2-0t-gti-5dr-dsg-bristol-201410067989346

definitely won't be rushing into it though but i do have the money here waiting... :jumping:

I've noticed that they offer xenon headlights, winter pack (heated seats etc but I don't know if that is standard with the leather). As I am in the same position as you with cash waiting I'm trying to get one with all the optional extras (would rather the 17 inch wheels but not an issue if it has 18). Full history is a must - it's all about getting one which suits you're needs and one that will be appealing to buyers come sale time.
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Matthewsimone on December 21, 2014, 05:19:04 pm: Spec could include -

Cruise control
Multi function steering wheel
Full heated leather
Arm rest with ipod dock
Sat nav
Folding heated mirrors
Puddle lights
18" diamond cut monza's
Zenons headlights
Etc etc
The white one appears to have nothing but the wheels!
55 plate poverty spec is a £5.5k car to me
:drinking:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: uk345 on December 21, 2014, 05:20:45 pm: Quote from: Matthewsimone on December 21, 2014, 05:19:04 pm
Spec could include -

Cruise control
Multi function steering wheel
Full heated leather
Arm rest with ipod dock
Sat nav
Folding heated mirrors
Puddle lights
18" diamond cut monza's
Zenons headlights
Etc etc
The white one appears to have nothing but the wheels!
55 plate poverty spec is a £5.5k car to me
:drinking:
I thought they all had the multi function steering wheel, armrest and cruise control ? Do they come standard with traction control ?
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 21, 2014, 05:30:44 pm: Ok you have started to put me off the White one haha. Any thoughts on the grey one in Bristol? Seems a better spec?
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Matthewsimone on December 21, 2014, 05:32:48 pm: Yes all have Tc
Preety much everything else is optional, still is on mk7 Golf, Vw give you preety much nothing unless you pay for it :ashamed:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Jay75 on December 21, 2014, 05:34:14 pm: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-Golf-GTI-MK5-Immaculate-condition-/131379935148?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1e96dab7ac

I like the look of this one, would get that for under 6k...
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 21, 2014, 05:38:51 pm: Looks like a tidy car jay, just a shame it's in red, not leather and a few hundred miles away :(
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: uk345 on December 21, 2014, 05:52:41 pm: Quote from: VW_Jace on December 21, 2014, 05:30:44 pm
Ok you have started to put me off the White one haha. Any thoughts on the grey one in Bristol? Seems a better spec?

First thing that pops out is the mileage which is high. Nice car with dsg, leathers and bigger alloys. What sort of mileage do you do ? If for example you keep it for 2 years and do 15000 miles a year then by the time you sell it will have 143k on the clock which will make it less appealing for buyers. I know mileage is just a number but it's something the market look at.
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Jay75 on December 21, 2014, 06:01:31 pm: Just be patient buddy you will get what you want at the right price, and remember that sellers are always desperate to sell.. And buyers can bide their time! :smiley:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on December 27, 2014, 07:33:35 pm: Just seen this on eBay...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-GTI-MK5-56reg-DSG-Paddle-shift-SAT-NAV-Leather-18inch-monzas-/321619847260?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4ae209685c

Thoughts?

:jumping: :drool:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: Degudodger on December 27, 2014, 07:54:37 pm: At that mileage the DSG should have been serviced twice, make sure the book has been stamped to reflect. Not sure about the price as i am a little out of the loop :)
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: numec on December 28, 2014, 12:28:16 am: Test drive with the usual check
Good luck!
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on January 03, 2015, 09:16:00 pm: Bought it!

Travelled a couple hundred miles yesterday to view it and wasn't dissapointed! Now own a 56 reg grey mk5 GTi with DSG, heated leathers, cruise control, sat nav, 18" monzas...the lot :grin:

http://postimg.org/gallery/2z48bs8ho/57722f39/
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: numec on January 03, 2015, 11:14:17 pm: Quote from: VW_Jace on January 03, 2015, 09:16:00 pm
Bought it!

Travelled a couple hundred miles yesterday to view it and wasn't dissapointed! Now own a 56 reg grey mk5 GTi with DSG, heated leathers, cruise control, sat nav, 18" monzas...the lot :grin:

http://postimg.org/gallery/2z48bs8ho/57722f39/

Congrats! New year, new baby! Good specs..miles??
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Post by: allymac on January 03, 2015, 11:38:15 pm: Looks like you got yourself a nice GTI there, health to enjoy.
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: VW_Jace on January 04, 2015, 08:51:30 am: Yeah great way to start the new year! It's on 85k and had all the required services for dsg etc, just due a minor service and 2 front tyres will be needed shortly. Love the dsg though :drool:
Title: Re: Hi...Potential MK5 Golf GTi purchase
Post by: numec on January 05, 2015, 08:50:20 pm: Quote from: VW_Jace on January 04, 2015, 08:51:30 am
Yeah great way to start the new year! It's on 85k and had all the required services for dsg etc, just due a minor service and 2 front tyres will be needed shortly. Love the dsg though :drool:
Good to know you're enjoying your new motor!

I know the feeling when I just bought her. You keep smiling everytime behind the wheel.