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Title: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: adsgti on December 16, 2014, 10:16:52 am
Hi folks,

I've decided to take a punt on a ebay 3" decat downpipe after reading that rtech recommend using them. It seems a slightly better design than some with the small flexi also as this seems to be around 6" on the photos.

My question is can I put it on the car without any adverse effects for a while before I take my car for the stage 2 tuning? I know it will throw up the eml light on the dash but that doesn't bother me as it will be mapped out.

Thanks in advance for the help.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: phatmuther on December 16, 2014, 10:28:54 am
As you said, the EML will come on but thats it.

Have had mine on for a couple of months with no issues at all  :happy2:
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: adsgti on December 16, 2014, 10:59:47 am
Sweet have you noticed much difference since putting it on?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: CarlW on December 16, 2014, 12:11:03 pm
Just curious as I'm thinking of doing this myself.. Does the EML light not cause you to go into limp mode when planting your foot down or am i thinking of something else?

Cheers,
Carl.
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: phatmuther on December 16, 2014, 12:24:48 pm
Just curious as I'm thinking of doing this myself.. Does the EML light not cause you to go into limp mode when planting your foot down or am i thinking of something else?

Cheers,
Carl.
Nope, just brightens up your dash  :grin:

Sweet have you noticed much difference since putting it on?

Cheers.
Louder and certainly feels its giving more when booting it.
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: adsgti on December 16, 2014, 12:37:12 pm
I already have a 3" non res catback and revo CAI hope it's not too loud though. Could always have a resonator box put in I guess, ill let you know what it's like Carl.

I read that a common problem with the eBay downpipes with the small flexi pipes putting strain on the welds leading them to crack. The one I have bought has a much bigger flexi than most ebay cheap ones, comes with heat wrap and an option of 3" bore or the downsized pipe to mate upto a standard system. Delivered for £135. I'll let you know what quality and fit is like!
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Matthewsimone on December 16, 2014, 01:18:22 pm
Surely just fitting a decat without mapping to suit will result in massive fueling issues and probably produce less power than a standard car  :jumping:
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: adsgti on December 16, 2014, 01:26:38 pm
I thought there may be issues myself that's why I have asked, not getting it mapped till about February and was wondering if I should put it on or not too  :confused:
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Matthewsimone on December 16, 2014, 02:26:24 pm
I would personally wait until ready for map mate as wont be any quicker and mpg will be terible too  :happy2:
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Markweir12 on December 16, 2014, 03:11:05 pm
I'm looking to get a new DP .. I had my car mapped 2 months ago.

Would I need to get it mapped again?
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: adsgti on December 16, 2014, 03:29:51 pm
Yeah it would need to be mapped to get the best from the downpipe would be alot less than the initial price you paid tho as they would only need to tweek it
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on December 16, 2014, 06:00:17 pm
Make sure you do the mods in here to protect the flexi pipe:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,89912.0.html

This is why flexi pipes fail, too much engine movement  :sad1:
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: jocco on December 17, 2014, 01:20:36 am
adsgti, do you have a link of the one your going to get?


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Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: adsgti on December 17, 2014, 08:13:35 am
Yes mate its http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/161490555267?nav=SEARCH

Seems pretty decent. Should arrive today I think.
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: adsgti on December 17, 2014, 08:45:46 am
What difference in gains will I see between having a decat or just a 200 cell sports cat? Debating buying a 200 cell magna flow sports cat and getting it welded in??
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: simpsb on December 29, 2014, 07:57:46 pm
Yes mate its http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/161490555267?nav=SEARCH

Seems pretty decent. Should arrive today I think.
any good :happy2:
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Spankiee on December 30, 2014, 09:15:10 pm
ive got an ebay 200 cell on mine and im impressed so far.
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: simpsb on January 15, 2015, 03:24:32 pm
Yes mate its http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/161490555267?nav=SEARCH

Seems pretty decent. Should arrive today I think.
any good :happy2:

just received mine ..looks very good. fitting it monday :happy2: let you know more later
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Tortaruga on January 15, 2015, 06:43:22 pm
Does this mean that Milltek etc. are raping everyone?
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Spankiee on January 15, 2015, 06:51:49 pm
Mmmmm not really they just play on there big brand reputation. BCS are worth the money.
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: simpsb on January 20, 2015, 09:36:18 am
Yes mate its http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/161490555267?nav=SEARCH

Seems pretty decent. Should arrive today I think.
any good :happy2:

just received mine ..looks very good. fitting it monday :happy2: let you know more later
what a difference...a little bit louder..but the sound..whhooop then dsg pop!...the spool up is so much quicker and the power comes in so much earlier 
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: adsgti on January 20, 2015, 09:40:53 am
I have a brand new decat down pipe with heat wrap etc... If anyone wants it. Selling my car and never fitted it. £120 posted!
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Bigjimknickers on December 31, 2015, 10:40:33 am
So...
I've been researching a pre cat delete, which made me look up these..
I take it the pre cat is in here, so one of these would eliminate the pre cat?
Or both cats?
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Paradox1 on December 31, 2015, 11:43:54 am
So...
I've been researching a pre cat delete, which made me look up these..
I take it the pre cat is in here, so one of these would eliminate the pre cat?
Or both cats?

on the standard Downpipe, there is the precat then the cat.

On a 3inch downpipe, there is just 1 sports cat. or you could go for a decat = No cats
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Bigjimknickers on December 31, 2015, 03:13:34 pm
So...
I've been researching a pre cat delete, which made me look up these..
I take it the pre cat is in here, so one of these would eliminate the pre cat?
Or both cats?

on the standard Downpipe, there is the precat then the cat.

On a 3inch downpipe, there is just 1 sports cat. or you could go for a decat = No cats
So would a sports cat still need the engine light sorted? I know a de cat will need that sorting.
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Paradox1 on March 22, 2016, 12:23:55 pm
I think a sports cat may need the engine light mapping out as the lambda sensor would record a higher flow rate than standard. Tuners can map this out for as little as 50quid or it can be removed when getting a remap anyway
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: markjj on March 27, 2016, 09:44:13 pm
After having a nightmare of the garage gutting the main cat and precat On the OEM  downpipe when I specifically asked precat it failed the mot shortly after. So I sourced a dp and and ran it for a while with just the precat mod.
This weekend I finally got my eBay downpipe fitted. It was £130 delivered from the states. Apparently made from the same steel as Milteks. It came  in 2 pieces and the mechanic had to do a bit of jigging about to get them together but all good.

The car is an edition 30 and had been remapped shortly before my ownership by some mobile mapping company, i found the receipt in the glovebox. No other mods.

I honestly can't believe the difference this dp has made.  Feels like it's been remapped again huge pull from 3k. Sounds a lot beefier aswell also can hear the turbo spooling quite prominontly On boost.
Very happy today and can highly recommend a downpipe over a precat mod wish I'd of just done it in the first place. Strangely no cel light yet so wondering weather the cheap map had some eml removal in it. Just hope the longevity of it is the same as the more exepensive equivalent time will tell ...
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Thebody on March 27, 2016, 10:00:04 pm
Got a link to the downpipe?
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Lewo on March 27, 2016, 10:13:25 pm
Have you got Ebay link for the pipe you've fitted?
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: markjj on March 27, 2016, 10:53:15 pm
https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/381562872136

Good peice of kit. Comes with manifold gasket and bolts. Delivery was about a week.
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Lewo on March 28, 2016, 09:31:12 am
Didn't you have to pay import duty & VAT?
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: markjj on March 28, 2016, 10:08:24 am
No
Didn't you have to pay import duty & VAT?

No it's free. States it in the delivery section on the listing.
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Lewo on March 28, 2016, 11:40:27 am
To be honest I couldn't read much of the listing as it's a complete mess...... using firefox, don't know if that makes a difference!
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: KieranM on March 29, 2016, 11:41:42 am
Did you notice a decrease in mpg? I understand that it will decrease a bit but some people are saying it decreased by almost 10mpg  :stupid:
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: markjj on March 29, 2016, 08:26:59 pm
Funnily enough, yeah when I boot it it drops quite a bit on the mfd, also takes a while to get up to a decent figure say 30 mpg when driving really steady. This is only going off the mfd would need to do a brim to empty to get a proper reader, but normally the mfd is quite accurate.
I need get it on the rollers, get it tuned properly. Going book in at r-tech at some point.
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Spankiee on March 31, 2016, 07:03:02 am
i've had mine almost 2 years now and its still in one piece and passing Mot's (200 cell)  :pomppomp:
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Namsgti on April 01, 2016, 06:15:53 pm
I've had my decat pipe and it passed mot no problem  :smiley:
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: akbarirfan on June 21, 2016, 11:35:42 pm
I too am experiencing a drop in mpg of about 10 mpg. Currently driving like Miss Daisy to see if that helps improve things. I read somewhere that it takes a few 100 miles for the ecu to adjust to a decat, not sure if that is correct though.

Car has a stage 1 rtech map, then decat we added 18 months later. Any ideas why the mpg has deteriorated?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Paradox1 on June 22, 2016, 12:22:55 pm
I've had my decat pipe and it passed mot no problem  :smiley:

WTF how did that happen :D
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Paradox1 on June 22, 2016, 12:24:34 pm
I too am experiencing a drop in mpg of about 10 mpg. Currently driving like Miss Daisy to see if that helps improve things. I read somewhere that it takes a few 100 miles for the ecu to adjust to a decat, not sure if that is correct though.

Car has a stage 1 rtech map, then decat we added 18 months later. Any ideas why the mpg has deteriorated?

Thanks

MPG has gone downhill because the car thinks there is an issue with the lambda sensor. I think you may need a map tweek as its expecting the flow rate of the standard downpipe and not the increase flow of a 3inch downpipe.

Just an excuse to go stage 2 now :driver:
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: Vish8895 on June 23, 2016, 10:01:53 am
I've had my decat pipe and it passed mot no problem  :smiley:

WTF how did that happen :D

I too am intrigued by this...
Title: Re: Ebay decat downpipe
Post by: bad devotions on June 23, 2016, 10:36:22 am
I've had my decat pipe and it passed mot no problem  :smiley:

WTF how did that happen :D

I too am intrigued by this...

April fool??