MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Tejinder on December 23, 2014, 02:33:20 pm
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Hi guys,
Dropped my car off to Gaz Jones today for my yesterday to be installed :laugh:
I'm a bit confused what to do gearbox wise. I'm DSG and will be running between 380 and 400lbft for the time being however next year I will be upgrading to 450bhp or possibly 500bhp.
I've decided to keep the stock clutches for the time being until I up the power.
Now here's my question,
What clutches and software are you guys with 400lbft+ running and how does your DSG handle the power?
Thanks in advance
Tej :happy2:
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@Hurdy (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=53)
I'd tag @rich83 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=709) but he's only running a puny 350ish. And drives like a girl.
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@Hurdy (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=53)
I'd tag @rich83 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=709) but he's only running a puny 350ish. And drives like a girl.
Less than that actually.... :P
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@Hurdy (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=53)
I'd tag @rich83 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=709) but he's only running a puny 350ish. And drives like a girl.
Haha!
Already been talking to John and have a good idea of what to do. Just wanted a few other guys opinions :happy2:
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I'm running 400+ lbft & GIAC stg 3 dsg map
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@Hurdy (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=53)
I'd tag @rich83 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=709) but he's only running a puny 350ish. And drives like a girl.
Less than that actually.... :P
Not denying that last bit as well? :P Wouldn't Pikey Motorsport be another good guy to ask?
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@Hurdy (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=53)
I'd tag @rich83 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=709) but he's only running a puny 350ish. And drives like a girl.
Less than that actually.... :P
Not denying that last bit as well? :P Wouldn't Pikey Motorsport be another good guy to ask?
I got 16MPG today....... just saying! :wink:
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@Hurdy (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=53)
I'd tag @rich83 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=709) but he's only running a puny 350ish. And drives like a girl.
Less than that actually.... :P
Not denying that last bit as well? :P Wouldn't Pikey Motorsport be another good guy to ask?
He's manual.
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I got 16MPG today....... just saying! :wink:
I got that too. Traffic all the way home.
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So what's the limit on stock clutch packs?
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Limit is around the 450lb mark but obviously some are stronger than others, as with manual clutches
Try talking to @Jussa (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2225) too as he is running around the 450lb mark so can give you some views and advice :happy2:
Uprated clutch packs are very expensive indeed :confused:
Dave
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I got 16MPG today....... just saying! :wink:
I got that too. Traffic all the way home.
:laugh:
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You need a DSG remap to increase the clamping pressure on the clutch packs to hold 450lbft
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I run 580 ish NM on my standard dsg clutches with dsg stage 1 from Swedish Vtech (mygel on many forums, seat leon AWD 500hp). Don't know what that is in lbft though...
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Limit is around the 450lb mark but obviously some are stronger than others, as with manual clutches
Try talking to @Jussa (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2225) too as he is running around the 450lb mark so can give you some views and advice :happy2:
Uprated clutch packs are very expensive indeed :confused:
Dave
Cheers mate, have PM'd Justin :smiley:
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I run 580 ish NM on my standard dsg clutches with dsg stage 1 from Swedish Vtech (mygel on many forums, seat leon AWD 500hp). Don't know what that is in lbft though...
Thats around 430lbft, do you get any slip?
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No slip at all and i drive quite aggresive! :wink:
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The DSG clutch-packs are holding ok on mine, but I will still be upgrading to Dodson DSG clutch-packs over the winter.
My clutchpacks have taken more hammer than a fairground strongman test and most with 400lbft or more.
Having said that, some DSG boxes are inherently weaker than others even with similar mods and I have even seen slip on other cars without BT conversions.
Personally I would say 450lbft is the absolute limit for stock clutchpacks with DSG software. Above this you will require upgrade clutch-packs, either HPA, Dodson or SSP. SSP are hard to make work, HPA are very expensive with longevity worries and Dodson are as yet an unknown quantity when it comes to longevity as they are new to the market.