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All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Track Day Technical => Topic started by: jonnyc on November 20, 2009, 11:22:17 am

Title: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on November 20, 2009, 11:22:17 am
LINK TO THE LEADER BOARD CAN BE FOUND HERE

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9380.0

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Hey all,

So I don't know how many of you guys are familiar with the 2.0T FSI top 20 leader board on the Vortex forum in the US??

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4605509

As the 2.0 TFSI/TSI engine is becoming more and more developed these times are really starting to come down! And as a result the competition is hotting up..

As the last few 1/4 mile meets have been quite a success and everyone seems to enjoy it I thought it would be a bit of fun to have something similar for this forum too? Obviously our times would also qualify for the main Top 20 over on Vortex, so a bit of UK vs. US which is never a bad thing  :grin:

We could have our own UK top 20 leader board (all times can be added to this now from the last year or so) and along side that the fastest car in the following categories..

* K03 Manual
* K03 DSG
* K04 Manual
* K04 DSG
* Aftermarket Manual
* Aftermarket DSG
* Overall Fastest

This way everyone has a fair chance of having some equal competition to run against.. The overall top 20 is great, but if your running a tuned K03 then you don't really stand much chance against the big turbo cars etc etc..

The rules..




Posting new times..

When posting a new time you should list the following:








Which should end up looking something like this

12.601 @ 115.85 - DSG - OEM K04 - REVO S2+ - TRACK TYRE - MK5 ED30 - JonnyC

So thats about it really, just for fun, but with a competitive edge to keep it interesting!!  :wink:

Have fun!!![/list][/list][/list][/list][/list][/list][/list]
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: t20lau on November 20, 2009, 11:28:18 am
Sounds good to me! I'll have to get my car down a 1/4mile strip asap hehehe...
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: tony_danza on November 20, 2009, 11:37:14 am
Sounds like a heavy front of high pressure fail is moving over North America.

There needs to be more UK cars on that list. I think we're the people to put them there.
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: MAT ED30 on November 20, 2009, 11:42:53 am
mmmm this could be fun and now i have another car i might start making the car a little lighter  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: cuprak1 on November 20, 2009, 11:45:12 am
whooo when do we start :)
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 20, 2009, 11:48:57 am
whooo when do we start :)

Well now I guess.. Not sure where the thread should live though? Mods could help with that one?
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: tony_danza on November 20, 2009, 11:56:24 am
Lets call this the discussion thread and make an additional one a locked sticky somewhere with just the results on?
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 20, 2009, 12:05:21 pm
Lets call this the discussion thread and make an additional one a locked sticky somewhere with just the results on?

Sounds good to me.. :)

So submit all times etc in this one and then ill add them to the locked sticky thread.. Just need to know where etc..

Ok guys, so get posting your times so I can get on with pulling the first list together..

If you state the following..

Car model / Turbo / G'box type / Time with speed eg. 13.506@102 / Name
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: cuprak1 on November 20, 2009, 12:48:25 pm
When i was runing about 320 bhp and rubbish tyres and no engine mounts:

Seat Cupra k1 / k04 / Manual / 13.598 @ 101 mph / Wayne@VAGupgrades.com
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 20, 2009, 01:04:49 pm
When i was runing about 320 bhp and rubbish tyres and no engine mounts:

Seat Cupra k1 / k04 / Manual / 13.598 @ 101 mph / Wayne@VAGupgrades.com

Thanks mate, your leading at the mo.. :smiley:

And is that the first excuse posted too??  :wink: :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: cuprak1 on November 20, 2009, 01:17:58 pm
When i was runing about 320 bhp and rubbish tyres and no engine mounts:

Seat Cupra k1 / k04 / Manual / 13.598 @ 101 mph / Wayne@VAGupgrades.com

Thanks mate, your leading at the mo.. :smiley:

And is that the first excuse posted too??  :wink: :wink: :grin:

excuse indeed lol could do so much better now, just need to get back to the pod ! ill dig out the timeslip later
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: tony_danza on November 20, 2009, 01:38:31 pm
Would it be fair to say we'll only accept times from a Pukka FIA drag strip, like SantaPod.

i.e. no using your iphone and a £1 app to measure you going down a steep sliproad and claiming that...
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 20, 2009, 01:41:09 pm
Would it be fair to say we'll only accept times from a Pukka FIA drag strip, like SantaPod.

i.e. no using your iphone and a £1 app to measure you going down a steep sliproad and claiming that...

Ha.. Well yeah I would say so.. Santa Pod, York, or any permanent track etc.. Somewhere with proper timing gear, flat and preferably a 1/4 of a mile long.. The last two were for the US boys  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: DanGB on November 20, 2009, 02:02:10 pm
This is obviously highlights driver ability on a 1/4 mile a well, surely youve got an advantage if youve already done 20 runs and several days on the strip.. personally I think 1/4 miles are a waste of time but thats just me  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 20, 2009, 03:32:02 pm
I like the idea of this. especially as i have a k03 and its all small and puny.

I too think there is a large elemnt of driver ability in quarter mile runs. I d be more interested in the events where you rolling starts like 30-100mph.

Still will have a go at the pod when i get my diff. R888s count as road tyres as well dont they
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: john_o on November 20, 2009, 03:40:19 pm
nice idea  :happy2: but you'd need different threads or a more combined data format otherwise itll get unwieldy imo
always envisaged a combined clickable user profile ( 1/4 time + history , project thread , pictures , dyno plots... )

I'll pass on adding my last Santa Pod times   :chicken:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 20, 2009, 04:15:50 pm
This is obviously highlights driver ability on a 1/4 mile a well, surely youve got an advantage if youve already done 20 runs and several days on the strip.. personally I think 1/4 miles are a waste of time but thats just me  :smiley:

Don't remember saying that everyone had to play?? And yes, certain drivers will be better than others, but thats the same for all aspects of life.. No harm in having a go though!?

I like the idea of this. especially as i have a k03 and its all small and puny.

I too think there is a large elemnt of driver ability in quarter mile runs. I d be more interested in the events where you rolling starts like 30-100mph.

Still will have a go at the pod when i get my diff. R888s count as road tyres as well dont they

Yeah, anything that is legal for road use.. So R888's and the like all count.. Its really not that hard, all you need to do is launch the car without excessive wheel spin then change gear 3 times lol..

nice idea  :happy2: but you'd need different threads or a more combined data format otherwise itll get unwieldy imo
always envisaged a combined clickable user profile ( 1/4 time + history , project thread , pictures , dyno plots... )

I'll pass on adding my last Santa Pod times   :chicken:


I think it will be very manageable within the one leader board thread..

For example..

Golf MK5 ED30 / K04 / DSG / 12.601@115.80 / JonnyC

Easy  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Hurdy on November 20, 2009, 07:55:28 pm
Okay, here is mine. Plenty more to come off this :evilgrin:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2FP1020066.jpg&hash=74c7291500df7402a35a39f9620554d00e471963)

Golf MK5 ED30 / K04 / DSG / 13.151 @ 109.20 / Hurdy

Diff, engine mounts and a diet for the car :laugh:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: T88OMM on November 20, 2009, 08:02:59 pm
I don't know if Inters counts but here's my time:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fll213%2FT88OMM%2FIMG_0176.jpg&hash=ee9ac3f82e0f8c854796a019abbeeeac7049bed2)

Audi S3 / KO4 / S-Tronic / 13.284 / T88OMM
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: gazbutS3 on November 20, 2009, 08:06:21 pm
I don't know if Inters counts but here's my time:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fll213%2FT88OMM%2FIMG_0176.jpg&hash=ee9ac3f82e0f8c854796a019abbeeeac7049bed2)

Audi S3 / KO4 / S-Tronic / 13.284 / T88OMM

thats madness for a stg1 Revo car :evilgrin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 20, 2009, 08:17:50 pm
Audi S3 / KO4 / S-Tronic / 13.284 / T88OMM

Ill stick it down as DSG just to keep it simple if thats ok?

Keep them coming guys.. Getting there now  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: T88OMM on November 20, 2009, 08:41:20 pm
Audi S3 / KO4 / S-Tronic / 13.284 / T88OMM

Ill stick it down as DSG just to keep it simple if thats ok?

Keep them coming guys.. Getting there now  :smiley:

That's fine mate  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: cuprak1 on November 20, 2009, 11:13:25 pm
wheres the table? am i missing something?  :jumping:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 21, 2009, 12:59:39 am
wheres the table? am i missing something?  :jumping:

Im going to get it filled up first then post it.. Looking a bit sorry for itself at the moment!  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 23, 2009, 11:42:48 am
Come on guys.. Get your times up!  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on November 23, 2009, 12:04:51 pm
What about what stage  the car is Jonny. As if someone has Stage 2+ compared to Stage 1 (Or standard even) you won't be able to tell on the table and it makes a slight difference. :wink: Also I think tyres should be addressed to, whether they are 888's or not, as they do make a difference. I know it's only a bit of fun. But if it's going to be done, it may as well be done properly..  :signLOL:
Something like..
Ed 30 / Revo S2 / Road Tyres / 13.1 @ 109mph / Vtec Abuser
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 23, 2009, 12:35:05 pm
What about what stage  the car is Jonny. As if someone has Stage 2+ compared to Stage 1 (Or standard even) you won't be able to tell on the table and it makes a slight difference. :wink: Also I think tyres should be addressed to, whether they are 888's or not, as they do make a difference. I know it's only a bit of fun. But if it's going to be done, it may as well be done properly..  :signLOL:
Something like..
Ed 30 / Revo S2 / Road Tyres / 13.1 @ 109mph / Vtec Abuser

Seems like a good plan mate.. Think thats about as much info as we could put down though before it gets mega complicated..

Ok so new revised format is as follow..

CAR MODEL / TURBO / MAP TYPE / TYRE TYPE (TRACK OR ROAD either way they must be road legal) / GEARBOX / 1/4 MILE TIME / NAME

Eg.

MK5 ED30 / OEM K04 / REVO S2+ / TRACK TYRE / DSG / 12.601@16.80 / JONNYC

Everyone happy with that??

Jonny  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: cuprak1 on November 23, 2009, 12:36:28 pm
add this to mine :)

OEM K04 / Revo S1 / Street TYRE (goodyear eagle f1)

cant wait to get on track with stage 2+
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: T88OMM on November 23, 2009, 12:38:50 pm
That's fine matey  :happy2:

S3 / OEM KO4 / DSG / REVO STAGE 1 / ROAD TYRES / 13.284 / T88OMM
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 23, 2009, 12:43:40 pm
Cool.. All have been updated now.. We now have 8 cars on the board and the times are VERY close, pretty cool to see it coming together now!!  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on November 23, 2009, 12:46:29 pm
What about what stage  the car is Jonny. As if someone has Stage 2+ compared to Stage 1 (Or standard even) you won't be able to tell on the table and it makes a slight difference. :wink: Also I think tyres should be addressed to, whether they are 888's or not, as they do make a difference. I know it's only a bit of fun. But if it's going to be done, it may as well be done properly..  :signLOL:
Something like..
Ed 30 / Revo S2 / Road Tyres / 13.1 @ 109mph / Vtec Abuser

Seems like a good plan mate.. Think thats about as much info as we could put down though before it gets mega complicated..

Ok so new revised format is as follow..

CAR MODEL / TURBO / MAP TYPE / TYRE TYPE (TRACK OR ROAD either way they must be road legal) / GEARBOX / 1/4 MILE TIME / NAME

Eg.

MK5 ED30 / OEM K04 / REVO S2+ / TRACK TYRE / DSG / 12.601@16.80 / JONNYC

Everyone happy with that??

Jonny  :smiley:

Spot on that mate. Although I would probably add a 1 in front of your terminal speed.  :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 23, 2009, 12:58:42 pm
Spot on that mate. Although I would proably add a 1 in front of your terminal speed.  :signLOL:

ha.. Good point!  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 04:10:55 pm
Ok, first draft of the leader board is now up in the Track days section, if Steve would be able to sticky this then that would be great..

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9380.0

Again, use this thread for discussion and posting new times etc so we can keep the sticky thread to just the leader board!

Ok, need some K03 boys to post up some times, and get the board filled up!

As you can see, the times are already very close!!  :happy2: Should be fun..
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 25, 2009, 04:17:48 pm
i need to go do it asap. ill be Number 1 hahahahahahah

                       NUMBER 1


Ill defiantely have a go in the new year though.
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 04:25:38 pm
i need to go do it asap. ill be Number 1 hahahahahahah

                       NUMBER 1


Ill defiantely have a go in the new year though.

Hehe.. Should be good fun, like I say, a bit of competition keeps it interesting!!

I have also updated the instructions etc in this thread so its looking a lot cleaner now!

Get posting your times!  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: animal on November 25, 2009, 04:32:08 pm
Jonny, do you know Mikey's A3 TDi is like down the strip?
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 04:40:33 pm
Jonny, do you know Mikey's A3 TDi is like down the strip?

Hmm.. Nope?! But its not exactly a 2.0T FSI if its a diesel  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: animal on November 25, 2009, 04:47:59 pm
That's meant to read 'do you know what (Devon)Mikey's A3 TDI is like down the strip'.

Forgot until I had posted that you had specified 2.0T FSI in the thread title... My bad  :ashamed:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 05:38:58 pm
That's meant to read 'do you know what (Devon)Mikey's A3 TDI is like down the strip'.

Forgot until I had posted that you had specified 2.0T FSI in the thread title... My bad  :ashamed:

I was only messing.. Im not sure, by all accounts it would do a 9 second pass at a million miles per hour..  :wink: Well it would if here were running the Twintake anyways  :P
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: chungster on November 25, 2009, 05:49:29 pm
I'll put my K03 time from GTI Inters up for now as no one else has done so yet  :grin:

MK5 GTI / OEM K03 / REVO S1 / ROAD TYRE / MAN / 14.615 @ ?? MPH / CHUNGSTER



Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: tony_danza on November 25, 2009, 06:13:46 pm
I'd raise you a 14.358, Lee - but I can't find the slip and therefore cannot 'claim' the time.
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 06:16:43 pm
I'd raise you a 14.358, Lee - but I can't find the slip and therefore cannot 'claim' the time.

Dont worry about slips for now guys, we'll fill the board, im sure no one on here would quote a fantasy time..
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: chungster on November 25, 2009, 06:22:35 pm
I'd raise you a 14.358, Lee - but I can't find the slip and therefore cannot 'claim' the time.

dont need the slip mike.....the times still up on that website so thats proof enough!

Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 06:54:51 pm
I'd raise you a 14.358, Lee - but I can't find the slip and therefore cannot 'claim' the time.

14.358 @ ???.??? - DSG - OEM K03 - REVO S2 - ROAD TYRE - MK5 GTI - tony_danza

Is that right??
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: tony_danza on November 25, 2009, 07:02:05 pm
Yep  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: chungster on November 25, 2009, 07:02:24 pm
i think he had special track tyres...cos the 0-60 time was damn impressive!

Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 07:04:11 pm
i think he had special track tyres...cos the 0-60 time was damn impressive!



Who?
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: joesgti on November 25, 2009, 07:05:50 pm
this is an awesome thred  :congrats:

Gonna go have a look for my slips now,  :pomppomp: im sure i ran a 14.5 at pod in the snow  :party:  :laugh:

We should organise a day at the pod after chrimbo,  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: chungster on November 25, 2009, 07:09:16 pm
i think he had special track tyres...cos the 0-60 time was damn impressive!



Who?

mike aka tony_d...when he was at GTI Inters this year. Or was it just bit of special weight saving tactic he used? can't remember lol but to get a sub 6sec 0-60 was rather good in a K03 car!
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: joesgti on November 25, 2009, 07:11:37 pm
i think he had special track tyres...cos the 0-60 time was damn impressive!



Who?

mike aka tony_d...when he was at GTI Inters this year. Or was it just bit of special weight saving tactic he used? can't remember lol but to get a sub 6sec 0-60 was rather good in a K03 car!

I get sub 6 0-60 in my KO3?  :confused:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 07:13:48 pm
this is an awesome thred  :congrats:

Gonna go have a look for my slips now,  :pomppomp: im sure i ran a 14.5 at pod in the snow  :party:  :laugh:

We should organise a day at the pod after chrimbo,  :smiley:


Yeah that would be good, only problem is if its snowing again lol.. Yeah dig them out, just get your info down as described so I can add you to the list  :happy2:

mike aka tony_d...when he was at GTI Inters this year. Or was it just bit of special weight saving tactic he used? can't remember lol but to get a sub 6sec 0-60 was rather good in a K03 car!

I think he was running standard road type tyres.. I felt the K03 to be very very close to a K04 car to 60mph, its only past then that the K04 cars can really stretch there legs.. The grip at Inters was terrible too..
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: chungster on November 25, 2009, 07:17:15 pm
exactly...inters (bruntingthorpe patchy concrete runway) is not exactly the same as the prep'd sticky drag slip that is santa pod!

so to get a sub 0-60 in a K03 car is quite something. He does have DSG and my gear changes ain't the fastest lol.

Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 07:20:29 pm
exactly...inters (bruntingthorpe patchy concrete runway) is not exactly the same as the prep'd sticky drag slip that is santa pod!

so to get a sub 0-60 in a K03 car is quite something. He does have DSG and my gear changes ain't the fastest lol.



Mine got a 4.53 to 60 at Inters on 235 R888's.. I think its probably in the 3's at Pod judging by the way it launched there in comparisson to Inters.. We may as well have been driving on the grass!  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: tony_danza on November 25, 2009, 07:37:02 pm
i think he had special track tyres...cos the 0-60 time was damn impressive!



Eagle F1s and a full interior, including spare & toolkit on essentially a ploughed field compared to the Pod!

Was only on basic REVO settings too, as I forgot to change them... I only posted the time because I know I can tw*t it. Ha ha!!  :laugh:

Team GB FTMFW.
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: vwrascal on November 25, 2009, 07:40:12 pm
Santa pod RWYB 14/03/2009

MK5 GTI / STANDARD K03 / ROAD TYRE / MAN / 14.8430 @ 95.17 MPH / VWRASCAL

I have slip   :happy2:

Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: chungster on November 25, 2009, 07:40:32 pm
yeah ok rub it in mikey  :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: tony_danza on November 25, 2009, 07:46:07 pm
yeah ok rub it in mikey  :signLOL:

Me? never...

That car's doing a mid-late 12 or I'm burning it out as punishment!
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 07:48:24 pm
yeah ok rub it in mikey  :signLOL:

Me? never...

That car's doing a mid-late 12 or I'm burning it out as punishment!

Haha! Record currently is a 13.0 for K03 Mike.. Woop Woop! You will do a 12 no worries  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Hurdy on November 25, 2009, 07:52:21 pm
Mike (Tony_Danza) managed a 5.83 to 60mph at Inters on the Sunday. :star:

In the official list, who beat Regals best 0-60 time on Sunday (much warmer day!) on road legal tyres and a Revo map that had only had 10 mins adaptation :innocent:

If anyone wants to relate to GTI International for their best 1/4 mile times and 0-60 times see below.

1/4 mile times for Sat
http://www.theresults.co.uk/theresults/Results/2009/Motorsport/GTIInternational_0627_qtrm.pdf

1/4 mile times for Sun
http://www.theresults.co.uk/theresults/Results/2009/Motorsport/GTIInternational_0628_qtrm.pdf

0-60 Sat
http://www.theresults.co.uk/theresults/Results/2009/Motorsport/GTIInternational_0627_0to60.pdf

0-60 Sun
http://www.theresults.co.uk/theresults/Results/2009/Motorsport/GTIInternational_0628_0to60.pdf

Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 07:53:45 pm
In the official list, who beat Regals best 0-60 time on Sunday (much warmer day!) on road legal tyres and a Revo map that had only had 10 mins adaptation :innocent:

Well at least they came away from the weekend with fastest MK5 overall???? lol.. Made me giggle..
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Hurdy on November 25, 2009, 07:55:53 pm
In the official list, who beat Regals best 0-60 time on Sunday (much warmer day!) on road legal tyres and a Revo map that had only had 10 mins adaptation :innocent:

Well at least they came away from the weekend with fastest MK5 overall???? lol.. Made me giggle..

"officially" they did.....but we know better :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Hurdy on November 25, 2009, 08:14:02 pm
Just seen the leaderboard :surprised:

*note to self - must try harder*

First outing next year I will have the Quaife LSD, Decat, a more agressive REVO setting (instead of the stock standard one I had for this years runs), less weight in the car :wink:, wider R888's, updated DSG software and a few other bits, so if I'm not in the 12's at some point early next year I too will bonfire my car next to Tony Danza's and walk home :ashamed: :grin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: chungster on November 25, 2009, 08:33:27 pm
well if ur doing that make sure u take the goodies off first and pass them on to those who can make proper use of them  :P
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 25, 2009, 11:10:39 pm
i reckon a stage 2+k03 has a sub 6 second in it easily. especially so if you have R888s and a LSD.
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 11:12:10 pm
i reckon a stage 2+k03 has a sub 6 second in it easily. especially so if you have R888s and a LSD.

Mike will be able to show us all soon enough!  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: tony_danza on November 26, 2009, 08:50:52 am
Get out, I already have proved it. 5.83 - and on road tyres, with no LSD and a boot full o'crap on B6T5F6.

I tell thee, this one's a Monday car!!
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 26, 2009, 12:16:46 pm
whats a standard GTI do 0-60 in, about 7.1 seconds isnt it. add 80bhp 100Ibft torque, you can easily gain way over 1 second.   second
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: tony_danza on November 26, 2009, 12:38:51 pm
I don't know if it's that simple, the more power you've got in a FWD, the trickier the launch.
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Hurdy on November 26, 2009, 12:53:59 pm
Drag radials would get that 0-60 down quite a bit. 5.83 would be more like 5 flat :jumping:

Next time I go to York Raceway I'll be gunning for a 4. something as I'm on the brink with a 5.03.
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: T88OMM on November 26, 2009, 02:01:38 pm
Drag radials would get that 0-60 down quite a bit. 5.83 would be more like 5 flat :jumping:

Next time I go to York Raceway I'll be gunning for a 4. something as I'm on the brink with a 5.03.

What you need Hurdy is 4WD, 4.7 with a simple stage one map  :innocent: :laugh:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on November 26, 2009, 05:23:32 pm
Nice work Jonny.. One other thought though. Do you think it would be worth while putting up what track the time was run on?
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 26, 2009, 05:26:27 pm
Nice work Jonny.. One other thought though. Do you think it would be worth while putting up what track the time was run on?

Hmm thought about that actually but to be fair, unless they shorten the track at Inters your never going to do a better time than at a prepped track like Santa Pod or York.. And they have been proven to be very similar to each other..
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: keith on November 26, 2009, 09:34:10 pm
Are you allowing Crail times?
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: GTIjames on November 27, 2009, 02:24:28 pm

this is my best time acheived 23rd august 09 at santa pod, not too competitive with other revo stage 2+ ed30's but getting better! roll on 17th Jan 2010

Reaction +.6327
60 ft - 2.7305
330 ft - 6.3670
1/8 et - 9.2609
1/m mph - 85.87
1000' et - 11.6797
1/4 et - 13.8511
1/4 mph - 106.20
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on November 27, 2009, 03:52:43 pm
Massive space for improvement there bud.. It's your 60ft time that has wrecked that run. You want to be down to 2.2's / 2.1's for a spot on run. Which would put you very close to the 12's IMO.
Stage 2+ with the right launch should easily be doing 12's on the right day I reckon..  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 27, 2009, 05:11:03 pm
Massive space for improvement there bud.. It's your 60ft time that has wrecked that run. You want to be down to 2.2's / 2.1's for a spot on run. Which would put you very close to the 12's IMO.
Stage 2+ with the right launch should easily be doing 12's on the right day I reckon..  :wink:

Agree with all that mate.. 0.5 down on 60 foot times makes a HUGE difference down the run..

Keep working at it and you will be in the 12's in no time!  :smiley:

Ill get your time added to the list now  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: RobH on November 29, 2009, 11:21:47 am
How come Regals car isnt on the list if it ran a 13.165  :confused:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 29, 2009, 01:16:24 pm
How come Regals car isnt on the list if it ran a 13.165  :confused:

I was going to put it on the list but up to now I have only added time from people that have requested them to be on the board.. I dont see any reason why Regal wouldnt want it on but there members on this forum so thought they would have posted up..

Ill put it up anyways  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: RobH on November 29, 2009, 01:25:57 pm
didnt realise they were members on here thought it would be best they were on there as it is a 2.0tfsi and they are in the UK :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 29, 2009, 02:04:23 pm
didnt realise they were members on here thought it would be best they were on there as it is a 2.0tfsi and they are in the UK :signLOL:

Yeah for sure, just as I said, all the people up to now have posted themselves..  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Hurdy on November 29, 2009, 11:19:40 pm
I don't mind Regal being up there, especially as they are slower than me :P :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2009, 09:21:17 am
I don't mind Regal being up there, especially as they are slower than me :P :signLOL:

 :grin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2009, 09:30:30 am
Right, updated the list with times and specs from GTIJames and Regal Autosport  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: NeilM on November 30, 2009, 02:29:53 pm
Hi Jonny can't find my Pod times, dont think they were quicker anyway.  :smiley:

ED30/K04/Revo S2+/Road tyres/DSG/13.650/NeilM

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Foo163%2Fneilmelvin%2FRWYB-1.jpg&hash=2c72c708c4e4bee4e4d8457189e227ed25c426b8)

Maybe get you or another to try the car using the launch control and foot peddles next time and see what it can do  :happy2:

Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2009, 02:31:16 pm
Hi Jonny can't find my Pod times, dont think they were quicker anyway.  :smiley:

ED30/K04/Revo S2+/Road tyres/DSG/13.650/NeilM

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Foo163%2Fneilmelvin%2FRWYB-1.jpg&hash=2c72c708c4e4bee4e4d8457189e227ed25c426b8)

Cheers Neil  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Hurdy on November 30, 2009, 02:37:40 pm
You need the R888's for next year's Pod runs Neil :evilgrin:

Just thought I'd spend some more of your money for you :grin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: NeilM on November 30, 2009, 02:47:22 pm
I think I need someone who knows what their doing, your welcome to give it a shot next year John :happy2:

Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Hurdy on November 30, 2009, 04:59:43 pm
I think I need someone who knows what their doing, your welcome to give it a shot next year John :happy2:



Jonny and Ben (Vtec Abuser) would probably help out if I wasn't there, but really you should be giving it some yourself.....practice makes perfect Neil :happy2:

Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Poppa Dom on November 30, 2009, 05:03:02 pm
I think I need someone who knows what their doing, your welcome to give it a shot next year John :happy2:



Jonny and Ben (Vtec Abuser) would probably help out if I wasn't there, but really you should be giving it some yourself.....practice makes perfect Neil :happy2:


Here here! I'm all for getting some practice in  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: NeilM on November 30, 2009, 05:22:30 pm
I think I need someone who knows what their doing, your welcome to give it a shot next year John :happy2:



Jonny and Ben (Vtec Abuser) would probably help out if I wasn't there, but really you should be giving it some yourself.....practice makes perfect Neil :happy2:


Here here! I'm all for getting some practice in  :happy2:

I was more just wondering if using the launch control and throttle conventionally was much quicker than using hand controls?

Its got to be a bit less scary launching with at least one hand on the steering wheel  :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2009, 05:25:48 pm
I was more just wondering if using the launch control and throttle conventionally was much quicker than using hand controls?

Its got to be a bit less scary launching with at least one hand on the steering wheel  :signLOL:

So how do you launch in yours Neil? There could be a way to make it a little easier..
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: RobH on November 30, 2009, 05:59:29 pm
Gonna have to be joining you lot next year for these 1/4mile thingys, looks like r888s make all the difference to get sub 13.5 secs although may go with the kumho v70a there suppost to be good.
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: NeilM on November 30, 2009, 08:38:04 pm
I was more just wondering if using the launch control and throttle conventionally was much quicker than using hand controls?

Its got to be a bit less scary launching with at least one hand on the steering wheel  :signLOL:

So how do you launch in yours Neil? There could be a way to make it a little easier..

The hand controls are opperated by my right hand and are Push (brake) and Pull (throttle) therefore you can only do one or the other and not together, so to use launch control I have a short pole which I use to hold down the brake with my left hand and rev with my right hand, and yes it was pretty f***ing scary the first time I tried it.  :jumping:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2009, 08:46:26 pm
I was more just wondering if using the launch control and throttle conventionally was much quicker than using hand controls?

Its got to be a bit less scary launching with at least one hand on the steering wheel  :signLOL:

So how do you launch in yours Neil? There could be a way to make it a little easier..

The hand controls are opperated by my right hand and are Push (brake) and Pull (throttle) therefore you can only do one or the other and not together, so to use launch control I have a short pole which I use to hold down the brake with my left hand and rev with my right hand, and yes it was pretty f***ing scary the first time I tried it.  :jumping:

Ok got ya..

Well something which would be trick to do is to have 'launch' button on the wheel.. It would simply mimic the brake switch signal to the ECU and would be like being on the brake, without actually having to operate the brake pedal..  That would enable you to set the DSG into launch mode whilst being able to have both hands on the wheel, and should be a fairly easy job really..

To launch all you would do is release the 'launch' button..
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: NeilM on November 30, 2009, 08:57:29 pm
Thats got me thinking, although I would still need to rev with my right hand thats a good idea, a friend who also drives/races with hand controls has had his paddle shift controls moved to the Up/Down volume controls on his steering wheel by VW racing so they may be the people to see. Thanks JonnyC.  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2009, 09:12:42 pm
Thats got me thinking, although I would still need to rev with my right hand thats a good idea, a friend who also drives/races with hand controls has had his paddle shift controls moved to the Up/Down volume controls on his steering wheel by VW racing so they may be the people to see. Thanks JonnyC.  :happy2:

Just have the button such that it can be operated with your right thumb..
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Poppa Dom on November 30, 2009, 09:15:28 pm
Definitely doable and a really good solution I think, so a big  :happy2: from me.
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on November 30, 2009, 10:10:59 pm
I think I need someone who knows what their doing, your welcome to give it a shot next year John :happy2:



Jonny and Ben (Vtec Abuser) would probably help out if I wasn't there, but really you should be giving it some yourself.....practice makes perfect Neil :happy2:



At your service Sir Neil  :party: :wink:
If I couldn't get yours into the 12's with the mods you've got now i'd be amazed..
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on December 01, 2009, 12:29:39 pm
Bit of an over sight on my part..

I have now opened it up to TSI engines too, as we all know, its pretty much the same, so now people with Scirocco's and MK6 GTI's can play too..

Let me know if anyone has a problem with this, dont think there should be though  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: NeilM on December 02, 2009, 04:36:20 pm
Thats got me thinking, although I would still need to rev with my right hand thats a good idea, a friend who also drives/races with hand controls has had his paddle shift controls moved to the Up/Down volume controls on his steering wheel by VW racing so they may be the people to see. Thanks JonnyC.  :happy2:

Just have the button such that it can be operated with your right thumb..

Excellent idea Jonny (dont you just hate it when someone mentions the bloody obvious that never crossed your mind!!).

As you said you only need to mimic the brake switch signal.

I think a button on top of the upright section would work (fighter pilot style  :signLOL:)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Foo163%2Fneilmelvin%2FHandcontrols-1.jpg&hash=72709bbe1c17f665a9ac263c13c10efdd5dcea48)

You get her into the 12's Ben and I'll buy you a pint  :happy2:




Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Hurdy on December 02, 2009, 05:25:25 pm
*Cough* R888's *Cough* :driver:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: NeilM on December 03, 2009, 05:17:24 pm
*Cough* R888's *Cough* :driver:

What about the new Toyo R1R's supposed to be out soon, ment to be a bit better in the wet ? 

You may need to start buying shares in Mr Toyo when your cars finished John  :laugh:
Title: Re: UK 2.0T FSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on December 03, 2009, 05:42:05 pm
I think a button on top of the upright section would work (fighter pilot style  :signLOL:)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Foo163%2Fneilmelvin%2FHandcontrols-1.jpg&hash=72709bbe1c17f665a9ac263c13c10efdd5dcea48)

Just don't get yourself carried away..  :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0348.jpg&hash=d5d977ed91e086df75f890710d21d9ddc927cfff)
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on December 03, 2009, 10:58:23 pm
Giz one...  :drool:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on December 26, 2009, 11:53:42 pm
Bump for this one..  :happy2:

Sure we should be able to fill up the leader board after the 17th and lots of you guys will get bitten by the bug! Get your cars ready guys!  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2010, 03:12:43 pm
Im going to update the leader board later today to keep the 2.0T FSI UK leader board going  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: joesgti on January 27, 2010, 03:17:12 pm
does that mean im the leader in KO3 MANUAL??!  :party: :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2010, 04:22:44 pm
does that mean im the leader in KO3 MANUAL??!  :party: :signLOL:

Yup, all the list is now updated!! Its all pretty close!!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: RedRobin on January 27, 2010, 05:55:42 pm
....

I'm sure that entering the time of my car with a certain maestro JonnyC as driver would be considered as cheating  :evilgrin:

I best submit my own effort : -

14.818 @ 98.76 - DSG - OEM K03 - REVO2 - ROAD TYRES - Mk5 GTI - RedRobin

Can only improve!

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2010, 06:34:46 pm
....

I'm sure that entering the time of my car with a certain maestro JonnyC as driver would be considered as cheating  :evilgrin:

I best submit my own effort : -

14.818 @ 98.76 - DSG - OEM K03 - REVO2 - ROAD TYRES - Mk5 GTI - RedRobin

Can only improve!



Nahhhh!! Its your car after all Robin, I think its irrelevant who is driving it really..
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: RedRobin on January 27, 2010, 07:03:22 pm

Nahhhh!! Its your car after all Robin, I think its irrelevant who is driving it really..


....Well, I'm thinking that perhaps both are relevant and also would be for anyone else doing the same: Relevant because it shows what the car spec is capable of but also what the driver manages to achieve. It's just important that the driver for the time is listed, so credit is shown where it's due.

If we are both at a quarter-mile event again I'll be inviting you to see what you can do in my car again. It's a good measure of my car's potential and also gives me something to aim for.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: NB07 on January 27, 2010, 07:33:48 pm
so jonny i see  Gregg@USP.MotorSports has the same turbo as yourself but running manual box, so do we think you can beat his time?? would be something else to get a MK5 GTI into the tens!  :notworthy:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2010, 07:55:48 pm
so jonny i see  Gregg@USP.MotorSports has the same turbo as yourself but running manual box, so do we think you can beat his time?? would be something else to get a MK5 GTI into the tens!  :notworthy:


100% my car will be in the 10's this year thats for sure.. The day ill be running at will be York and my car will be a completely different animal by then!!  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2010, 08:58:40 pm

Nahhhh!! Its your car after all Robin, I think its irrelevant who is driving it really..


....Well, I'm thinking that perhaps both are relevant and also would be for anyone else doing the same: Relevant because it shows what the car spec is capable of but also what the driver manages to achieve. It's just important that the driver for the time is listed, so credit is shown where it's due.

If we are both at a quarter-mile event again I'll be inviting you to see what you can do in my car again. It's a good measure of my car's potential and also gives me something to aim for.

I would say keep Dom's thread for multiple drivers etc, and the leader board just for fastest times for the cars, regardless of driver.. And again, multiple entries would be restricted to turbo change only..

As for you car Robin, I really believe a mid to low 13 is possible with a couple more bits and a decent day!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Poppa Dom on January 27, 2010, 09:12:30 pm
Agreed Jonny - sounds like a plan. Just so everyone is aware the google doc spreadsheet now has a sheet for York Raceway too  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: RedRobin on January 27, 2010, 09:58:28 pm

I would say keep Dom's thread for multiple drivers etc, and the leader board just for fastest times for the cars, regardless of driver.. And again, multiple entries would be restricted to turbo change only..

As for you car Robin, I really believe a mid to low 13 is possible with a couple more bits and a decent day!!  :smiley:


....Cool  :happy2: 8) :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 28, 2010, 06:50:26 pm

Nahhhh!! Its your car after all Robin, I think its irrelevant who is driving it really..


....Well, I'm thinking that perhaps both are relevant and also would be for anyone else doing the same: Relevant because it shows what the car spec is capable of but also what the driver manages to achieve. It's just important that the driver for the time is listed, so credit is shown where it's due.

If we are both at a quarter-mile event again I'll be inviting you to see what you can do in my car again. It's a good measure of my car's potential and also gives me something to aim for.

I would say keep Dom's thread for multiple drivers etc, and the leader board just for fastest times for the cars, regardless of driver.. And again, multiple entries would be restricted to turbo change only..

As for you car Robin, I really believe a mid to low 13 is possible with a couple more bits and a decent day!!  :smiley:
A low 13 in a K03 would be bloody good going..  :surprised: What 60ft time did you get in RR's car Jonny?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on January 28, 2010, 07:22:21 pm
A low 13 in a K03 would be bloody good going..  :surprised: What 60ft time did you get in RR's car Jonny?

2.37.. Alrite considering the day but 2.2 would be easy on a good day, maybes even a 2.1 then that over the first 1/8 would convert to more like 5 tenths.. As I say, I think Robins car has a mid 13 in it already.. With a few more bits, who knows!  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: RedRobin on January 28, 2010, 09:22:00 pm

A low 13 in a K03 would be bloody good going..  :surprised: What 60ft time did you get in RR's car Jonny?

2.37.. Alrite considering the day but 2.2 would be easy on a good day, maybes even a 2.1 then that over the first 1/8 would convert to more like 5 tenths.. As I say, I think Robins car has a mid 13 in it already.. With a few more bits, who knows!  :wink:

....You've got a very good memory, Jonny! I've got the print-out from your drive : -

60 ft = 2.37
330 ft = 6.17
ET @ 594 ft = 8.66
1/8 ET = 9.22
1/8 mph = 80.81
1000 ET = 11.77
1/4 ET = 14.07
1/4 mph = 100.99

Hmm.. and I thought I had finished modifying my car!
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Aparoon on January 29, 2010, 09:36:33 am
This is my best from santa pod last weekend  :smiley:

Edition 30 / KO4 / Bluefin Stage 2 / Road tyre / DSG / 13.853 @ 104.97 / Aparoon.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: joesgti on January 29, 2010, 01:00:13 pm
should make this a sticky?? maybe??
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on January 29, 2010, 01:31:41 pm
I was thinking about this..

The whole 1/4 mile thing is getting more popular on this forum now, how's about a sub section for it where discussions etc can be held post events, plus sticky this thread and the leaderboard too??

Keeps it all in one place that way?? :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: RedRobin on January 29, 2010, 02:34:43 pm
^^^^
I agree with Jonny and was thinking exactly the same yesterday.

A natural place would be alongside Track Days.

@ Dom:
See if you can get your 1/4-mile database stickied - It needs it as it's disappearing already.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Greeners on January 29, 2010, 03:12:38 pm
Is this not the same sort of thing your after?

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=26.0
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: joesgti on January 29, 2010, 03:20:08 pm
i think it would be fine to be stickied in here, and put doms google sheet on the OP to this thred.  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: RedRobin on January 29, 2010, 06:06:51 pm

Is this not the same sort of thing your after?

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=26.0


....Subject to what Jonny and Dom think, that would be good, Nath  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Greeners on January 29, 2010, 06:46:08 pm

Is this not the same sort of thing your after?

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=26.0


....Subject to what Jonny and Dom think, that would be good, Nath  :happy2:

I'll move and sticky when all parties are happy!  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Poppa Dom on January 29, 2010, 06:49:14 pm
Definitely happy for this to happen Nath, good idea. More exposure it gets the more likely people are to complete it.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: RedRobin on January 29, 2010, 07:39:49 pm
....

Great, Nathan  :drinking:

Dom's database to go there too?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Poppa Dom on January 29, 2010, 07:49:47 pm
Yes, think the database should be stickied with it if people are in agreement.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Greeners on January 29, 2010, 07:50:30 pm
Yes, think the database should be stickied with it if people are in agreement.

Already done Dom!  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: GTIjames on January 31, 2010, 04:06:11 pm
wasnt up to much today so decided to go back to the pod :party:

1/2 hr after i arrived domt turned up so was a mini meet  :happy2:

track at first was just as slippy as last week and managed a few low 14s runs but it seemed to improve and just before the lunch break i set a new PB  :jumpmove:

60 ft - 2.4257
330ft - 5.9967
1/4 et - 13.2660
1/4 mph - 110.4

dom had the camera so im sure will be some vids up, maybe even one of me beating an rs6  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Hedge on January 31, 2010, 04:38:09 pm
You 2 are a pair of sly old dogs aren't you.  :wink:

Anything else of note there?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: GTIjames on January 31, 2010, 04:57:22 pm
yeah was some nice cars - rs6 as i mentioned, nissan gtr, merc sl55amg and a load of the those beatle dragsters

wasn't busy at all so you could do a run and within minuted be back at the start and go again

i stopped when i looked at my tyres and they were starting to melt  :ashamed:

bloody cold though  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 31, 2010, 08:06:00 pm
Nice time James..  :happy2: Good to see you in the low 13's mate. Definately got 12's in that car IMO.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: GTIjames on January 31, 2010, 08:20:17 pm
thanks was pleased with it, i think when the track improves further it will get in the 12s

found a vid of the 13.2 run - its about 3.27ish  :happy2:

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 31, 2010, 08:25:08 pm
What was your 60ft time bud?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: GTIjames on January 31, 2010, 08:26:06 pm
2.4257 that time

launched at c2krpm which seems to work quite well

will get some sticky tyres come spring and give it another go, maybe sooner i enjoy it too much  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: KRL on January 31, 2010, 08:33:20 pm
LOL at you for going again.  Sounds like you've well and truly got the bug now.  I'll be going again soon, maybe in Feb or March  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on February 01, 2010, 01:21:11 pm
Seems that the start line wasnt much better but the next few hundred feet had lots more grip!

Nice time mate, high 12's for sure!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: jonnyc on February 01, 2010, 02:08:54 pm
All times are now updated  :happy2:

Its getting to the point now where some of the leaders of the categories (JoesMK5 for example) are not in the top 20 but are featuring as the leader of one of the specific categories.. Seems a bit wrong really..

There is an option to make it a top 30?? Otherwise there will be guys putting down great times in K03 GTI's for example but not making it onto the board?? What does everyone think??
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: RedRobin on February 01, 2010, 03:49:51 pm
....

Good times, James  :happy2: 8) :happy2:

Sneaky move by you and Dom - I thought that Dom was only kidding about this weekend.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Greeners on February 02, 2010, 09:22:07 am
I think these two are the wrong way round Jonny.....  :happy2:

19). 14.358 @ ???.??? - DSG - OEM K03 - REVO S2 - ROAD TYRE - MK5 GTI - tony_danza
20). 14.200 @ 100.38 - MAN - OEM K04 - REVO S1  - ROAD TYRE - AUDI S3 - KRL

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 02, 2010, 09:25:16 am
All times are now updated  :happy2:

Its getting to the point now where some of the leaders of the categories (JoesMK5 for example) are not in the top 20 but are featuring as the leader of one of the specific categories.. Seems a bit wrong really..

There is an option to make it a top 30?? Otherwise there will be guys putting down great times in K03 GTI's for example but not making it onto the board?? What does everyone think??
How about doing a K03 leaderboard, a K04 leaderboard, then a overall leaderboard Jonny?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on February 02, 2010, 07:13:45 pm
I think these two are the wrong way round Jonny.....  :happy2:

19). 14.358 @ ???.??? - DSG - OEM K03 - REVO S2 - ROAD TYRE - MK5 GTI - tony_danza
20). 14.200 @ 100.38 - MAN - OEM K04 - REVO S1  - ROAD TYRE - AUDI S3 - KRL



Wooooop!!  :ashamed: Sorted now..

How about doing a K03 leaderboard, a K04 leaderboard, then a overall leaderboard Jonny?

Could do, was just wary of it getting too much and people loosing interest..
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 02, 2010, 07:43:59 pm
nice to see some bugs getting in the 12s there  :smiley: cant wait to get mine down there  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: gillm on March 07, 2010, 07:40:31 pm
just been delving threw my paperwork and found a inters 06 1/4 mile time

and its 14.091sec

and a 6.3 0/60

does that make me the fastest manual ko3 car ? oh i was on road tyres
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: gillm on March 07, 2010, 10:29:27 pm
what do i win then ?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: gillm on March 08, 2010, 06:13:08 pm
ANYONE ?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on March 08, 2010, 06:16:41 pm
ANYONE ?

Sorted it out for you..

And you win a prize once you get fastest manual K03 car in the world.. Thats a 13.0  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: gillm on March 08, 2010, 06:21:40 pm
13.0 wow that bloody good going . i guess thats with nothing in at all just 1 seat .

now for the fastest manual car with the 28 i guess
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on March 08, 2010, 06:26:54 pm
13.0 wow that bloody good going . i guess thats with nothing in at all just 1 seat .

now for the fastest manual car with the 28 i guess

Full interior but with race fuel / meth injection and slicks..

Oh and a short downhill american track..  :grin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: GTIjames on April 11, 2010, 07:42:59 pm
fun day out at santa pod and a little update to my PB time 13.04 @ 112.2..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fu347%2Fjnewby99%2FP1000924.jpg&hash=6dafdb8ad7b4055de9b1c8b0d70735aedb3f1b84)

i believe I knock hurdy off 5th place   :innocent:

haha
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: NB07 on April 11, 2010, 08:01:16 pm
yep great day  :happy2:

only did one run but it was ok...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg197.imageshack.us%2Fimg197%2F7180%2Fpodtime.jpg&hash=51a6d76ac1ac8c44c24a19f1f383a83aab324b88)

looks like i managed to knock Revo's K1 off tenth!   :innocent:



Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on April 11, 2010, 10:24:55 pm
fun day out at santa pod and a little update to my PB time 13.04 @ 112.2..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fu347%2Fjnewby99%2FP1000924.jpg&hash=6dafdb8ad7b4055de9b1c8b0d70735aedb3f1b84)

i believe I knock hurdy off 5th place   :innocent:

haha

Well done James :happy2:

You'll be back in 5th once I get to the Pod  :innocent: :wink: :evilgrin:

Just depends on where I'll be on the list above you  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: KRL on April 11, 2010, 10:27:21 pm
Here is my best time of the day:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fuu264%2Flivall%2F81_0001.jpg&hash=5ff9ed722e668ddc6b07ccbaab65862fad1ffd6c)

Manual K04, Revo Stage 1, Forge Twintake
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on April 11, 2010, 10:59:59 pm
Nice one KRL.. Good to see another K04 in the 13's..  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: RedRobin on April 12, 2010, 08:50:55 am
@ Jonny:
Methinks my car (you were driving) fractionally beat gillm's and so our 18th/19th overall positions should swop.

I need to get under 14.0 myself at some stage.


@GTIjames:
Very consistent times, James - You doin' well buddy  :congrats: :congrats:
[Hurdy will have ya though :evilgrin:]
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: david_phillips95 on April 12, 2010, 11:43:46 am
Was running down the 1/4 mile on sunday :) Car was pulling great :):) first time i have ever done a 1/4 mile so i think there is room for improvement. Best times i managed was a 12.7 & 12.8 the rest were low 13's.

Have a look here

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_run.asp?CarNumber=30&RunDate=20100411

12.733 @ 107.7 - MANUAL - OEM K04 - REVO S2+ - ROAD TYRE - AUDI S3 - David_Phillips95

Cheers Davie
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on April 12, 2010, 04:13:58 pm
@ Robin..

Thanks for that, I have changed it around now..

@ David..

Could you remove your post from the other thread please mate  :smiley:

Everyone else..

I have now added your times and David your now the new K04 leader  :congrats:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: RedRobin on April 12, 2010, 06:51:15 pm
@ Robin..

Thanks for that, I have changed it around now..

@ David..

Could you remove your post from the other thread please mate  :smiley:


....Thanks, Jonny.

Btw, you can lock the other thread so peeps can't post in it. Means less maintenance and relying on others. You'll have to unlock it while you update it. 

:happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on April 23, 2010, 12:33:44 am
I was at Crail on April 11th too, and did 13.233 @ 113.60 mph.

Car is Leon Cupra 2.0T manual, Revo Stage 2+ on road tyres.

I think there should be a split for front drive and four wheel drive on the leader board as well as DSG and Manual.

When you disect the 60 foot times and terminal speeds, it is clear to see where the front drive and all wheel drive cars make their performance known. Check out the 60 foot times and terminal speeds of both cars.

Here are my times and terminal speeds.

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_run.asp?RunDate=20100411&RaceID=153&CarNumber=25

And a clip inside my car on one run



And a clip of my car and Davids 12.7 S3  (above)


Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on April 23, 2010, 03:46:18 am
The whole point of the leader board is that its engine specific though.. So whatever car out there, be it Leon, ED30, Skoda, GTI, DSG or manual can play.. If we start narrowing it down to either 4WD or FWD then its the TTS vs. S3 in the 4WD sector and thats it.. So no where near as much competition..

Yes 4WD cars have an advantage at the start line, but a big disadvantage from the 1/8 mile to the finish..

Buy an S3 and an ED30 then you can have a shot with both..  :P

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: KRL on April 23, 2010, 07:25:48 am
Agree with Jonny here, splitting it any more would cause too much segregation.  It is interesting to see that the battle for the top of the leaderboard is turning out to be DSG Vs AWD as both have their strengths and weaknesses.  We need to get some 2+ times for Stronic S3's now as well  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on April 23, 2010, 07:42:41 am
I disagree, because of the fundamental advantage an all wheel drive car has at the start with upward of 350bhp because of traction available to it. I would say DSG and Manual are comparable than front vs AWD on the 1/4 mile. Also, when you look at "normal" tuned edition 30's and not ones with the bumper bars, interior and anything not necessary that weighs something all but removed, the times are clearly slower. 4x4 cars will eventually be the leaders once some of them decide to dump seats, spare wheels and other things that weigh any amount of weight - just wait and see  :wink:.

Why? When you consider a 1.7 second 60 foot time is available on a 4 wheel drive car, this is 0.5 seconds (approx) quicker than a good launch on front wheel drive. Comparing 60 foot and 1/4 mile times thereafter, you can see the following;

4x4 (David)
60 foot = 1.7
Calculated average speed over 60 foot = 24mph
1/4 mile = 12.7
1/4 mile terminal = 108mph

FWD (my car with similar spec)
60 foot = 2.2
Calculated average speed over 60 foot = 18mph
1/4 mile = 13.2
1/4 mile terminal = 114mph

The time taken from the 60 foot point to the end of the 1/4 mile is exactly the same despite the FWD's better terminal speed because the 4x4 car was going much faster at the 60 foot point than the FWD car was due to its ability to put down its power and get there sooner. In other words, if my maths is correct, the front drive car will only be at 40 foot when the 4x4 is at 60 foot.

The 11 seconds from the 60 foot point looks the same, but the FWD car plays catch up, but it plays catch up from behind starting from a lower speed. Therefore over the remaining 5220 feet on the 1/4 mile from the 60 foot point, the only thing the gain on the front drive car does is cancel out the defecit from the 60 foot point with regard to time :laugh:

For what its worth, Davids S3 was not stripped out. I am willing to bet if it was, he would have been a good bit quicker still, and I hope he does this sometime to prove this theory :happy2:. I do agree that it will be good to see the trick gear box and the all wheel drive work together though especially if the car is stripped  :signLOL:. I will also be interested to see how well the clutch stands up to it all :wink:

Regardless, I will be back to Crail with a few different bits and pieces within 2 months and hope to report back with a quicker time  :pomppomp:. I am aiming for 13 dead, but I doubt it will be possible.

Can you update the board with my details in the mean time please :smiley:

Ta

Al
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: david_phillips95 on April 25, 2010, 01:30:39 pm
For what its worth, Davids S3 was not stripped out. I am willing to bet if it was, he would have been a good bit quicker still, and I hope he does this sometime to prove this theory :happy2:. I do agree that it will be good to see the trick gear box and the all wheel drive work together though especially if the car is stripped  :signLOL:. I will also be interested to see how well the clutch stands up to it all :wink:

I had the rear seats removed and the spare wheel. When i ran the 12.7 i had my mate passenger and just over 3/4 tank of fuel so if im looking for better times i will try running minus a passenger with alot less fuel.

Passenger =  80-90kg + 3/4 tank fuel = 30-40kg so i could easily drop 100kg+ for my next trip to crail.

AWD cars will always run faster than FWD if they have similar power you dont need to do calculations to work that out. If you want to get 12's or low 13s sell the cupra and buy an S3  :grin:

Davie
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 25, 2010, 01:36:48 pm
i agree with that, when i test drove an  impreza STI the other month, i found that my vRS was clearly quicker from a rolling start, but from a standstill the impreza was gripped and went.  no way would it catch up then
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on April 25, 2010, 08:19:17 pm
AWD cars will always run faster than FWD if they have similar power you dont need to do calculations to work that out.
:congrats:. Thats my point for having the manual front drive cars in a class of their own away from four wheel drive cars!!!

I would be interested to see which would be quicker round knockhill though  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Aparoon on April 25, 2010, 08:33:23 pm
I raced a fq300 at santa pod when I was bf stage 2, it murdered me off the line but I pulled it back and beat it... it's all part of the fun  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on April 25, 2010, 08:38:42 pm
If you would like a 4WD vs FWD drag time leaderboard then by all means post one up.. All the info is here in my thread for you to copy..

My feeling is that there is more than enough information in the thread for people to make there own conclusions from..

Point is that its meant to be a bit of fun, a bit of friendly competition.. Crail times are quite often very optimistic at best, but where do we draw the line? All times need to be ran at Santa Pod? Obviously for some, including yourself, thats really not realistic..

I think just take the leaderboard for what it is..  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: david_phillips95 on April 25, 2010, 09:34:06 pm
AWD cars will always run faster than FWD if they have similar power you dont need to do calculations to work that out.
:congrats:. Thats my point for having the manual front drive cars in a class of their own away from four wheel drive cars!!!

I would be interested to see which would be quicker round knockhill though  :wink:

I think the S3 would have the edge, i have never ran knockhill, but im guessing you wont be going much above 120 odds at the straightest points on the track. The S3 will pull faster from low speeds out of corners and will hold the road far better through the twisties than a FWD car. If i were to beat you round knockhill then what next...an arm wrestle??  :grin: lol

You seem desperate to prove your cupra is faster than my S3. Down a 1/4 mile, round a track the S3 will always have the edge untill you wanna race in straighline above 100 then your car will pull due to less transmission drag

As jonny said the leaderboard is just for fun, there are no prizes etc why make everything competitive and start splitting everything up into loads of different classes?

Davie
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on April 25, 2010, 10:11:10 pm
No no not at all - the results speak for themselves. If anything I have done nothing but bum your motor up lad. Clearly they are different - both are quick in different ways, the S3 being quick off the mark but slower at speed.

I fancy going back to four wheel drive myself next time round, possibly a next gen S3, but more than likely an Evo X or Evo XI if its out at that point :smiley:. The performance you have available is so much more usable, clear to see on that clip above. Its awesome  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on April 25, 2010, 11:12:55 pm
Fight fight..  :fighting: :grin:
I think these times just prove what we already know anyway. 4wd is always going to be quicker (time wise) on a 1/4 mile strip, but as the terminals prove, is slower once rolling.
Either way, it's good to see a Ko4'd S3 in the 12's at last. Nice one David..  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: s3dubbin on April 26, 2010, 02:18:10 pm
Will be interesting in june to see some of you boys from downsouth trying crail, you have the cream of drag strips down there concrete crail is whole new ball game. Hopefully the timing gear is accurate. Jc have you ran at crail, you mention the times at crail being a bit iffy?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on April 30, 2010, 09:36:06 am
Will be interesting in june to see some of you boys from downsouth trying crail, you have the cream of drag strips down there concrete crail is whole new ball game. Hopefully the timing gear is accurate. Jc have you ran at crail, you mention the times at crail being a bit iffy?

Yeah, not from personal experience mind you.. And of course im not discrediting the times at all.. Just making the point that its lighthearted and the emphasis is on fun..  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jabbalad on April 30, 2010, 09:55:27 am
12.7900 @ 111.67 - DSG - OEM K04 - JABBASPORT CUSTOM - TRACK TYRE - MK5 ED30 - JABBALAD

 :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on April 30, 2010, 10:01:44 am
12.7900 @ 111.67 - DSG - OEM K04 - JABBASPORT CUSTOM - TRACK TYRE - MK5 ED30 - JABBALAD

 :smiley:

Luke, what track tryes were you using on that run mate? When are you likely to be heading down there again and are you going to be running at Inters this year?  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on April 30, 2010, 10:07:47 am
12.7900 @ 111.67 - DSG - OEM K04 - JABBASPORT CUSTOM - TRACK TYRE - MK5 ED30 - JABBALAD

 :smiley:

Thanks  :drool: Ill get it up now.. Great to see another ED30 running well..
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on April 30, 2010, 01:26:18 pm
Just noticed my car is listed on the board as an S3  :laugh:

Can you change that to Leon Cupra please.

Ta
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on April 30, 2010, 01:50:54 pm
Just noticed my car is listed on the board as an S3  :laugh:

Can you change that to Leon Cupra please.

Ta

Woooooooops!  :ashamed:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 09, 2010, 08:31:09 pm
http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/show_times.asp?CarNumber=27&RunDate=20100509&RaceID=28

Can you update me please to 13.018 @ 115.4mph :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on May 09, 2010, 08:33:09 pm
http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/show_times.asp?CarNumber=27&RunDate=20100509&RaceID=28

Can you update me please to 13.018 @ 115.4mph :happy2:

Ill do it now for you..

Good 60ft time too.. What tyres are you running? :)
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 09, 2010, 08:35:50 pm
That 60 foot time was a one off sadly. The rest were 2.3's all day. I actially was more consistent over 60 foot last time with Vredstein tyres. I was on Kumho V70's today, but I swapped back to the Vredsteins as the 60 foot times were not as quick as I had hoped. I am sure if the car got a proper hold in 1st, a 12 was there for the taking. Not far off it though.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on May 09, 2010, 08:38:46 pm
That 60 foot time was a one off sadly. The rest were 2.3's all day. I actially was more consistent over 60 foot last time with Vredstein tyres. I was on Kumho V70's today, but I swapped back to the Vredsteins as the 60 foot times were not as quick as I had hoped. I am sure if the car got a proper hold in 1st, a 12 was there for the taking. Not far off it though.

Frustratingly close mate! Terminals are good though..  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 09, 2010, 08:47:15 pm
 :surprised: Nice work Al..  :happy2: Got me in the end.. Roll on June though and Stage 2+  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on May 09, 2010, 08:48:07 pm
Roll on June though and Stage 2+  :evilgrin:

Then you got me to beat  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: GTIjames on May 09, 2010, 08:56:28 pm
good time pipped me to 6th place  :happy2:

how did owen get on with his extreme map??

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 09, 2010, 08:58:01 pm
Unless I chuck my whole interior out and get some 888's, I think I may struggle bud..  :sad1: I'd be happy with a 12.8 though (0.3 sec quicker hopefully when Intake, Pump, and Map is done).
Will have to see though..  :scared: Need to remember who to drive again first..  :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on May 09, 2010, 09:00:05 pm
Unless I chuck my whole interior out, I think I may struggle bud..  :sad1: I'd be happy with a 12.8 though (0.3 sec quicker hopefully when Intake, Pump, and Map is done).
Will have to see though..  :scared:

I only had rear seats out, Recaro's and carbon bonnet at that point.. Would be equivalent weight saving to taking out rears and passenger seat and running with standard driver seat..

You should be in the 12's no worries at all though..
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 09, 2010, 09:03:52 pm
Unless I chuck my whole interior out, I think I may struggle bud..  :sad1: I'd be happy with a 12.8 though (0.3 sec quicker hopefully when Intake, Pump, and Map is done).
Will have to see though..  :scared:

I only had rear seats out, Recaro's and carbon bonnet at that point.. Would be equivalent weight saving to taking out rears and passenger seat and running with standard driver seat..

You should be in the 12's no worries at all though..

+ a couple more mods..  :wink:  :grin: Let's hope so though. Car's been running on 95 ron fuel for over a year with the old get driving it though..  :scared: Probably run like a bag of spanners..  :grin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on May 09, 2010, 09:07:19 pm
Probably run like a bag of spanners..  :grin:

You have heard of the 'Italian tune-up' technique haven't you?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 09, 2010, 09:26:11 pm
Owen made 13.310 @ 111.7mph

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/show_times.asp?CarNumber=28&RunDate=20100509&RaceID=244

Can you put him on too please. He had on road tyres and has the GIAC Extreme plus map on his manual 2.0T Leon Cupra  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 09, 2010, 09:28:03 pm
Probably run like a bag of spanners..  :grin:

You have heard of the 'Italian tune-up' technique haven't you?

What's that, rag the arse of it with some healthy 99 ron motion lotion in it? If so, it shall be applied on the way home don't you worry. Just up to the speed limit mind..  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 09, 2010, 09:33:51 pm
Owen made 13.310 @ 111.7mph

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/show_times.asp?CarNumber=28&RunDate=20100509&RaceID=244

Can you put him on too please. He had on road tyres and has the GIAC Extreme plus map on his manual 2.0T Leon Cupra  :smiley:

Al I thought you said that yours and Owen's were identical on the road? Quite a difference in terminal speeds there mate..  :surprised:
Revo FTW   :booty: :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on May 09, 2010, 09:34:38 pm
What's that, rag the arse of it with some healthy 99 ron motion lotion in it? If so, it shall be applied on the way home don't you worry. Just up to the speed limit mind..  :wink:

Yep.. In one  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 09, 2010, 09:35:45 pm
They are identical on a private race track, yeah. I can only assume my timing being at 7 for the Millers Octane booster I used made a bit more of a boost. Owen ran the same octane booster, but you cant modify the map to advance the timing to suit on GIAC.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 09, 2010, 09:37:32 pm
how do the 60ft times etc compare
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 09, 2010, 09:49:34 pm
Owen made 2.2 second 60 foot times with the Vredsteins, same as I did with them. The Kumhos are no good for 1/4 miles.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: GTIjames on May 09, 2010, 09:50:48 pm
looking at his fastest time 60 ft was 2.27 so pretty good

looks like revo's only competition is jabba  :happy2:

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 09, 2010, 09:52:07 pm
Post#39 shows a good review of all the track day tyres mate

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9795.msg212852.html#new
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 09, 2010, 10:09:38 pm
Aye, I read that before I bought the Kumhos. I would agree with the review, but with the addition of the poor traction - not at all what I expected from a track tyre.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 09, 2010, 10:14:43 pm
which compound did you get??
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 09, 2010, 10:15:50 pm
Hard mate, but even with huge 11's up to the start line, they still were nothing to write home about. Must be the tread pattern as they ended up very sticky after a burn out.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 14, 2010, 09:43:33 am
12's next time for me I hope

I have coming;

1) Lightweight discs
2) Re-fitting my Pro Race 1.2 wheels
3) 7kg battery to replace the 19kg OEM battery
4) Removing a/c core
5) Fitting WMI

I am fighting the corner for the manual front drive boys  :signLOL:

 :pomppomp:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jabbalad on May 14, 2010, 12:29:56 pm
12.7900 @ 111.67 - DSG - OEM K04 - JABBASPORT CUSTOM - TRACK TYRE - MK5 ED30 - JABBALAD

 :smiley:

Luke, what track tryes were you using on that run mate? When are you likely to be heading down there again and are you going to be running at Inters this year?  :wink:

Sorry forgot about this, running 225 toyo R888s gg compound  :smiley:

Cheers for adding me on there Jonny
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 14, 2010, 04:21:23 pm
12's next time for me I hope
7kg battery to replace the 19kg OEM battery

19 kilos seriously.  i new it would be heavy but jesus christ, that is horrendous
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on May 14, 2010, 06:26:24 pm
Cheers for adding me on there Jonny

No worries mate.. What offset did you go for on the 1.3's??
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on May 18, 2010, 02:07:46 pm
Hi Jonny

I was told to send you my time in here allthough my run was in DK and not in UK.

13.7038 @ 103.15 - MAN - OEM K04 - APR S2+ - ROAD TYRE - AUDI A3 - Sagild

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi838.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz310%2FSagild%2FBestrun.jpg&hash=a7a71ef8db5e539f7f8597f4f7b587173ab71c92)

And here's a pic from one of the runs...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.112-nord.dk%2F%2Fnews%2F1505201011.jpg&hash=67f233619410e100e07e0c45cf12c0c5fa38a7fe)
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jabbalad on May 18, 2010, 02:47:10 pm
Cheers for adding me on there Jonny

No worries mate.. What offset did you go for on the 1.3's??


I went for the 1.2s then got them to take the lettering off for me  :smiley:

might end up going for something different when the time comes tho :drool:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on May 18, 2010, 04:01:42 pm
Jabbalad: I am stunned by your time... 12,7 with around 300 hp. How do you do it? I am currently running 325 hp with 4 wheel drive and i think theres a looong way to 12,7... Do you have any tips for me??
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 18, 2010, 05:00:55 pm
Jabbalad's is around 340-50bhp mate and light..  :wink: But like you say, impressive! Who needs 4WD eh?  :booty: :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on May 18, 2010, 06:23:14 pm
How has he lightened the car to make the difference an entire second compared to me... Taken seats out and stuff like that or?

With 340-350 bhp how much torque are you putting down? Is your clutch slipping (I assume its the original clutch?)

I have considered the revo file, but i am afraid of my clutch slipping and the need to replace this anytime soon... That said, i would love the extra power  :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 18, 2010, 06:27:39 pm
lots of variables.  he was on semi slick tyres.  he removed all the seats.  he has uprated suspension so less lift on acceleration, hence more grip.  

4wd suffers more transmission losses than fwd, hence why the S3's get really good 60ft times, but the ed30's get much higher terminal speeds.

also if you have 325hp and he has 350Hp. that doesnt just equate to a 25hp deficit.  he might have that higher output for a longer amount of revs, he might also have more torque, boost might come in earlier and hold on for longer. He has DSG, do you.

he also races cars as well, so he'll have a really handy right foot.

there are alot of variables to take into consideration.  
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on May 18, 2010, 06:44:16 pm
semi slicks compared to 4wd wouldt do the difference... I have better suspension to and also engine mounts etc.

I hear you about the transmission loss and that might be an important factor...

And yes the difference in performance could be vital... not the 25 hp but more likely the torque...

Didn't know he had dgs. That offcourse means half a sec or something like that...
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on May 18, 2010, 06:47:15 pm
semi slicks compared to 4wd wouldt do the difference... I have better suspension to and also engine mounts etc.

I hear you about the transmission loss and that might be an important factor...

And yes the difference in performance could be vital... not the 25 hp but more likely the torque...

Didn't know he had dgs. That offcourse means half a sec or something like that...

Haldex cars should be 1.8-1.9 60f times, theres 3-4 tenths on the FWD cars straight away, a K04 car with 350hp or so should be mid to high 12's no worries.. I ran a 12.6 in an almost standard TTRS which dyno'd at 360hp.. Its possible for sure.. And as Stu said, there is more to it that just your dyno sheet or mod list.. The soft bit behind the wheel helps too.. :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 18, 2010, 06:52:17 pm
semi slicks compared to 4wd wouldt do the difference..


It would make a difference.  It means that your 4wd advantage will be much smaller if not completely gone if you are running normal road tyres.  so there is your start advantage gone, followed by the lower transmission losses, means he would easily pull off a 12.7. 

weight losss will make a huge diffrence as well.   he also has lightweight brakes, and light weight wheels which will help imsure

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on May 18, 2010, 07:44:59 pm
i have bbs lightweight rims and it doesnt matter it i run road tyres or track tyres cause theres is no spin. I transfer everything to the ground... But dsg and the weight difference could be the biggest factor... i think it must be there the difference is largest...

Jonny: Do you have any tips on how to get my times down. I have a great RT but i need to work on my shifts. How do you get the best start without LC? You have to help me make a high 12 time  :party: :party:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on May 18, 2010, 07:48:57 pm
i have bbs lightweight rims and it doesnt matter it i run road tyres or track tyres cause theres is no spin. I transfer everything to the ground... But dsg and the weight difference could be the biggest factor... i think it must be there the difference is largest...

Jonny: Do you have any tips on how to get my times down. I have a great RT but i need to work on my shifts. How do you get the best start without LC? You have to help me make a high 12 time  :party: :party:

Its a tough one.. I didn't have LC when I did the time in the TT, I launched from around 5k, loading it up on the handbrake slightly as to not shock the transmission.. (thats what breaks things) then just change gear as fast as you can.. I was flat shifting..

I managed a mid 1.9 60ft time, which is OK but there is roof for improvement.. Im hoping to get down to 1.7's now with the LC and more power..

Or just get a Revo file on your car, that will make the job a bit easier..  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 18, 2010, 07:54:56 pm
I launched from around 5k, loading it up on the handbrake slightly as to not shock the transmission.. (thats what breaks things) then just change gear as fast as you can.. I was flat shifting..


For an abseloute begginer, bit of explanation / tutorial... pleaaaase (dont want to break things :p )
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on May 18, 2010, 08:03:54 pm
what do you mean by loading it up on the handbrake? Flat shifting is the same as WOT right?

Did your clutch slip fast after the revo file??
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: singh123 on May 18, 2010, 08:06:07 pm
I launched from around 5k, loading it up on the handbrake slightly as to not shock the transmission.. (thats what breaks things) then just change gear as fast as you can.. I was flat shifting..


For an abseloute begginer, bit of explanation / tutorial... pleaaaase (dont want to break things :p )

Yeah any tips will be good, will be runnign on the 1/4 for first time at Inters :)
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 18, 2010, 08:18:53 pm
I launched from around 5k, loading it up on the handbrake slightly as to not shock the transmission.. (thats what breaks things) then just change gear as fast as you can.. I was flat shifting..


For an abseloute begginer, bit of explanation / tutorial... pleaaaase (dont want to break things :p )

Yeah any tips will be good, will be runnign on the 1/4 for first time at Inters :)

Glad im not the only newb  :ashamed:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 18, 2010, 08:20:50 pm
There's also the fact that we are talking about 2 different drag strips in 2 different countries (different altitudes etc). A manual K04 A3 (or S3), with your mods should be running high 12's / low 13's at around 107-108mph in the UK. Your times and terminals are the equivlent of a Stage 1 S3 over here. I managed a 13.1 with around 320bhp in full road trim with FWD (again DSG though) and there has been a few Cupra's running low 13's with 360+bhp too.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: RobH on May 18, 2010, 08:36:55 pm
I launched from around 5k, loading it up on the handbrake slightly as to not shock the transmission.. (thats what breaks things) then just change gear as fast as you can.. I was flat shifting..


For an abseloute begginer, bit of explanation / tutorial... pleaaaase (dont want to break things :p )

Yeah any tips will be good, will be runnign on the 1/4 for first time at Inters :)

Glad im not the only newb  :ashamed:

Get youselfs to york raceway for some practice on the 31st of may like me :grin:.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on May 18, 2010, 08:47:26 pm
There's also the fact that we are talking about 2 different drag strips in 2 different countries (different altitudes etc). A manual K04 A3 (or S3), with your mods should be running high 12's / low 13's at around 107-108mph in the UK. Your times and terminals are the equivlent of a Stage 1 S3 over here. I managed a 13.1 with around 320bhp in full road trim with FWD (again DSG though) and there has been a few Cupra's running low 13's with 360+bhp too.

Yes i thought i would be running the same... that is low 13s og high 12s... But APRs file is not aggressive. Revo gets about 370 lb ft and right now i am only putting down about 310 lb ft... and then the 25 hp difference... 13.1 is also really good imo! I would expect to do the same and then argue the reason is your dsg vs my 4wd, meaning that they even out the difference...

Could the reason be that i shift to late? Guess that question only goes for people running manual box...
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 18, 2010, 08:58:01 pm
There's also the fact that we are talking about 2 different drag strips in 2 different countries (different altitudes etc). A manual K04 A3 (or S3), with your mods should be running high 12's / low 13's at around 107-108mph in the UK. Your times and terminals are the equivlent of a Stage 1 S3 over here. I managed a 13.1 with around 320bhp in full road trim with FWD (again DSG though) and there has been a few Cupra's running low 13's with 360+bhp too.

Yes i thought i would be running the same... that is low 13s og high 12s... But APRs file is not aggressive. Revo gets about 370 lb ft and right now i am only putting down about 310 lb ft... and then the 25 hp difference... 13.1 is also really good imo! I would expect to do the same and then argue the reason is your dsg vs my 4wd, meaning that they even out the difference...

Could the reason be that i shift to late? Guess that question only goes for people running manual box...

It can depend on where your software reaches peak power, but I would be changing at about 6750rpm.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: KRL on May 18, 2010, 09:45:39 pm
Your times and terminals are the equivlent of a Stage 1 S3 over here.

Bang on  :happy2:

My stage 1 S3 got a 13.7 last time I tried at the POD with a 60ft time of 1.9 and a terminal of ~103 MPH.  I am sure I could do better though and get the time down to 13.5 or so  :evilgrin:

Need to get to the POD for another RWYB and put down some more times  :party:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on May 19, 2010, 06:52:18 am
and what are you putting down with the s1 revo file?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: KRL on May 19, 2010, 09:10:02 am
and what are you putting down with the s1 revo file?

About 330 BHP according to the two dyno's I have been on.  TBH I don't pay much attention to dyno figures as they are such a lottery.  1/4 mile times are a much better measure  :grin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 19, 2010, 02:40:56 pm
ignore the nfatc theat you might not match the k04 TFSI engine figures.  from what i gather in your sig, you have a normal A4 2.0T with a k04 conversion.  that would mean a different compression ratio and cams to the S3. so not entirely comparable
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on May 19, 2010, 08:34:23 pm
i have an a3  :P

But your right, i will not hit the figures like an s3, but i should be able to be close and atleast get lower than gti's with the same setup (ED30)
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on May 19, 2010, 09:49:02 pm
The A3 2.0tfsi engine has a higher compression ratio and cams than the S3 and will ultimately never make the same figures even with a K04 and equivalent mods. The rods aren't as resilient as the ED30/S3's either, but with a K04 you should be okay on OEM pistons and rods. :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on May 25, 2010, 09:18:27 pm
Will my time come on the board jonny?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 26, 2010, 06:45:27 pm
Well thats the light battery home (7kg vs 21kg standard one), the wheels back from refurb (3kg lighter each), light brakes being made (5kg lighter per disc) and tyres all but decided on. Also removed a/c radiator so all air falls on to the intercooler now.

I have got Crail on the 20th of June and very keen to bring the first K04 Manual Front drive 2.0T in to the 12's.

I will be ordering a WMI kit next week. Not sure what else could be done to get the car down any more after that (within reason).

Being honest, I am not sure it will be possible as a 2.1 60 foot time is most likely a pipe dream, and the car was absolutely flat out at the top of 4th gear last time @ 115.4mph. Any more speed accumulated will be offset by another gear change which will rob valuable time - last time was 13.018.

Just wondering if anyone has any other ideas? I have to make up 19 hundredths of a second to do it - I am soooo close!
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 26, 2010, 06:48:14 pm
can you get the alloy TT hubs to fit or not??  crbon bonnet, liht weiht race seats, get a poly rear window fitted.  depends how far you want to take this
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 26, 2010, 06:54:58 pm
The car needs to remain OEM from the outside mate. I have thought about a lightweight pair of seats, but there will be only 1 seat in the car this next time.

Was thinking about running part race fuel which with the WMI should allow me to use boost 9, timing 9 and fuel 5 or 6 :)

As far as I am led to believe, the lightweight hubs arent that much lighter?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 26, 2010, 06:56:33 pm
what about the fuel additives hurdy used. that let him advance his timing a bit iirc.  or pour some meth in your fuel tank
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 26, 2010, 06:58:22 pm
Additives were in last time with timing advanced to suit. May opt for funny fuel this next time too  :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 26, 2010, 07:02:45 pm
skinny rear tyres would help, or maybe pump them up real high spo the rolling resistance is reduced
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 26, 2010, 07:04:51 pm
skinny rear tyres would help, or maybe pump them up real high spo the rolling resistance is reduced
Rears were at 45psi last time  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 26, 2010, 07:05:48 pm
im all out of ideas then

maybe try a vRS instead :P :grin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 26, 2010, 07:08:19 pm
I am wondering what difference slicks would make to the 60 foot time over say 888's?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Blade on May 26, 2010, 07:27:01 pm
At what point do you change gear Al - rev limiter or a certain point on the tacho?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 26, 2010, 07:28:54 pm
thats a fair point.  on your dyno graphs, where abouts does the power/torque/boost start to tail off.  iknow on the k03 changing gear at about 5250rpm makes more progress
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 26, 2010, 07:32:20 pm
Not sure really. I dont look at the rev counter - I do it by ear. Maybe I should try changing sooner. Have a listen here. Must be about 6500-6750rpm

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 26, 2010, 07:37:05 pm
you got any dyno graphs or boost logs to see how the car is performing.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 26, 2010, 07:38:44 pm
Not since the new intake, a/c off and RS4 valve in with new settings on Revo, no :(
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 26, 2010, 07:39:36 pm
get it done :grin: :jumpmove: :jumpmove:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 26, 2010, 07:42:13 pm
Yes boss  :laugh: - or should I wait until WMI is onboard  :pomppomp:

Owen and I were also speaking about ditching the S3 cooler for a THS one. Not convinced the Forge would work any better than a single thick core given we have no a/c to worry about but WMI should do a good job too.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Blade on May 26, 2010, 07:45:49 pm
I was going to say you could hold onto a gear longer - mine will rev to just under 8k
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 26, 2010, 07:48:20 pm
I was going to say you could hold onto a gear longer - mine will rev to just under 8k

Yeah, it would be doable, but there is a point in the revs where it makes things quicker to change to the next gear. You will hear on the clip above that the car is absoluely balls out in 4th. With no passenger and no passenger seat, it gets there sooner.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 26, 2010, 07:51:21 pm
Yes boss  :laugh: - or should I wait until WMI is onboard  :pomppomp:

Owen and I were also speaking about ditching the S3 cooler for a THS one. Not convinced the Forge would work any better than a single thick core given we have no a/c to worry about but WMI should do a good job too.

thing is though the best thing about the forge is the increase in surface area for cooling
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 26, 2010, 07:58:20 pm
Yes boss  :laugh: - or should I wait until WMI is onboard  :pomppomp:

Owen and I were also speaking about ditching the S3 cooler for a THS one. Not convinced the Forge would work any better than a single thick core given we have no a/c to worry about but WMI should do a good job too.

thing is though the best thing about the forge is the increase in surface area for cooling

Yeah, I have thought about that, but realistically, the S3 core blocks part of the OEM core anyway. That plus the fact I would need to get a mix match kit - Leon core and S3 pipes which will be a pain when I come to sell them.

Then there is the extra weight of another core ha ha ha!
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: GTIjames on May 27, 2010, 09:22:33 am
lightweight battery helps, but you will notice you need to adjust your ride height afterwards from taking 15kg off from one side of the engine  :happy2:

do you guys get BP102ron up in scotland? as thats worth a punt, i certainly noticed the difference from vpower the times i have tried it but not cheap at over £2 a ltr

tyres i would go r888 as its what all the people running the best times are using, no point trying something else when these are proven, and then try out different tyre pressures to see what you launch best with

these guys are selling off there toyos, at £165 per corner compared to £199 from camskill  :happy2:

http://www.tyretraders.com/tyresearchresults.aspx?width=225&ratio=40&rim=18&man=Toyo&flat=False&filter=Price&ftype=Ascending&pricing=1&cat=All&speed=All&Loading=All (http://www.tyretraders.com/tyresearchresults.aspx?width=225&ratio=40&rim=18&man=Toyo&flat=False&filter=Price&ftype=Ascending&pricing=1&cat=All&speed=All&Loading=All)

im missing the pod its been over 2 months since my last outing, will be the first thing i do when i get the car back   :party:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: RedRobin on May 27, 2010, 09:48:10 am

im missing the pod its been over 2 months since my last outing, will be the first thing i do when i get the car back   :party:


....Glad to see you staying positive, buddy  :happy2: - As one door closes, another one opens  :pomppomp:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on May 27, 2010, 06:58:43 pm
Will my time come on the board jonny?

Its a UK board mate, so times need to be completed in the UK..

I really don't mean to be a pain, just the whole point of this leaderboard is that it is UK specific..
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on May 27, 2010, 08:17:27 pm
Thats fair... i just followed advice from another member in here in my other thread...
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on May 27, 2010, 08:33:51 pm
Thats fair... i just followed advice from another member in here in my other thread...

Sorry mate  :sad1: An excuse for a trip over to sunny England though?  :grin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on May 28, 2010, 02:49:37 pm
Hehe that might be an idea, but not until i get better times though...
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: joesgti on May 28, 2010, 03:33:14 pm
cant wait till inetrs, might pop over to york at weekend if im free. should see very low 14,'s high 13's,  :party:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Top Cat on May 28, 2010, 09:30:41 pm
cant wait till inetrs, might pop over to york at weekend if im free. should see very low 14,'s high 13's,  :party:

Correct you might do as long as your sat in the stand watching.  :star:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on May 28, 2010, 09:37:18 pm
cant wait till inetrs, might pop over to york at weekend if im free. should see very low 14,'s high 13's,  :party:

Correct you might do as long as your sat in the stand watching.  :star:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fprestonjjrtr%2FFunny%2FSmileyLOL01.gif&hash=363d2995d93c3105db2f61cd95de3b7a9e849806)
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on May 28, 2010, 09:38:04 pm
I'll be going for sub 12.5 :innocent:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: joesgti on May 28, 2010, 10:03:54 pm
cant wait till inetrs, might pop over to york at weekend if im free. should see very low 14,'s high 13's,  :party:

Correct you might do as long as your sat in the stand watching.  :star:

 :P :P

just spoke to my bro and might come down in his beemer, not decided yet! il call you tomorrow!  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 29, 2010, 09:26:11 am
I'll be going for sub 12.5 :innocent:
Good man John! Would be great to see you do it  :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 29, 2010, 10:59:13 am
am i right in saying that excluding the fore actuator you and hurdy are pretty much runnnig identical cars mod for mod??
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on May 29, 2010, 12:54:15 pm
Who me? Nah, mine is manual, his is DSG and he has a couple more goodies like carbon bonnet and a few more things under the bonnet :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on May 29, 2010, 02:31:40 pm
am i right in saying that excluding the fore actuator you and hurdy are pretty much runnnig identical cars mod for mod??

Mine will be "extra spicy" by Inters :innocent:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on May 31, 2010, 07:04:25 pm
I need my name back up the list a bit :jumping: (5th please!!!)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2F129quarter.jpg&hash=b6949a70471b3dbe35ef5ccfebe43e37c7b65989)

Would've been faster if I could have got back on the 1/4 for a few more goes :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on May 31, 2010, 07:17:32 pm
How come your reaction times are more than a second? Doesn't that count in your total ET? When we have 1/4 mile races the reaction time is added to give the total ET...
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on May 31, 2010, 07:26:45 pm
Reaction times don't count so it allows you to set the revs etc up and set off at will. :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on May 31, 2010, 07:57:51 pm
Leader board amended John.. Good job!  :happy2:

Surprised your not seeing higher terminals though??
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on May 31, 2010, 08:57:51 pm
Leader board amended John.. Good job!  :happy2:

Surprised your not seeing higher terminals though??


I think I set the boost a little too high as the top end felt a little lacklustre. Seen 116.9 before today with the Racelogic box :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sagild on June 01, 2010, 03:55:15 pm
Reaction times don't count so it allows you to set the revs etc up and set off at will. :happy2:

Ok thats a big difference compared to here in DK. We use start lights and reaction time counts. If you start to early you loose...
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 01, 2010, 04:21:43 pm
Reaction times don't count so it allows you to set the revs etc up and set off at will. :happy2:

Ok thats a big difference compared to here in DK. We use start lights and reaction time counts. If you start to early you loose...

If it is a full blown competition then yes, the reaction times count too :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on June 04, 2010, 07:48:44 pm
Congrats John  :congrats:

I hope to be joining you in the 12's soon  :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 04, 2010, 10:54:32 pm
Cheers :smiley:

11's next  :innocent:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 12, 2010, 12:01:09 pm
Come on guys, it's summer. You should all be laying down some times now :jumping: :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on June 12, 2010, 12:32:41 pm
Next Sunday my man, DanGB, Owen and I will all be at it at Crail  :party:

You should come for a blast up north and join us  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 12, 2010, 02:43:48 pm
Next Sunday my man, DanGB, Owen and I will all be at it at Crail  :party:

You should come for a blast up north and join us  :happy2:

Here's hoping for 12's allround :happy2:

Can't get up that weekend as I'm on mornings :sad1:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on June 16, 2010, 11:42:52 pm
Well Sunday is almost here. I had been hoping to have the WMI kit fitted, but BSH badly let me down with their TB pipe it seems.

Looks like I will be going at it without WMI. Hopefully nerves, weather and 5kg lighter discs per side along with the lighter wheels, stickier rubber and no a/c core will see 19 hundredths of a second less on the 1/4 mile  :driver:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 16, 2010, 11:45:15 pm
Run it early in the day to get some of that colder, denser air through the engine :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 17, 2010, 08:53:54 am
Run it early in the day to get some of that colder, denser air through the engine :wink:
Fingers crossed for you Al.. Need to get myself to Pod sharpish I reckon. Can't have you running quicker times than me in that stick shifted Spanish weapon..  :grin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 19, 2010, 11:35:04 pm
12hours time and im hoping my time is down to 13.1ish anything under that would be  :surprised: .

will post up what i get tomorrow night, hopefully the twintercooler and r1r's make a differance .
 :jumpmove: :driver: :jumpmove:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 19, 2010, 11:51:27 pm
good luck mate, post your times up early, i have a few scooby pals interested in how you do as well.  they are at the same point as you time wise
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on June 20, 2010, 06:19:53 am
My new discs are binding a little bit with them being 1mm too wide :(. Hoping this will not slow things down too much though - still gonna give it a go!
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 20, 2010, 11:15:26 am
be unusually harsh on them for the drive down, eat some of the pad away  :grin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 06:02:19 pm
right i reached my target of 13.1 and beat it by a fair bit and most important of all i broke the 12 second barrier a couple of times... JUST!!!


SOOOOOOO Jonny can you post up my new time on the leader board of ~

12.920 @ 112.80 - MAN - OEM K04 - GIAC EXTREME PLUS - ROAD TYRE - LEON CUPRA - Owen

thanks
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 20, 2010, 06:29:55 pm
Now that ain't half bad Owen :pomppomp: :pomppomp: :star:

What were your 60' and 1/8 speeds and times?

Anyone else posted good times?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 06:36:05 pm
most of my 60ft times were 2.1/2.2  best was 2.118.  no 1/8th mile times on the crail website but let me go and look at the datalogger times mate
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 06:39:15 pm
1/8th mile best time was 8.6 hurdy
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 20, 2010, 06:41:09 pm
I bet I could have got down to 2.1's with a few more goes at York. 2.1 is a great 60' time. 0.1 at the 60' will roughly get you 0.2 off the 1/4 mile run time :happy2:

8.6 --- That means your mid-range needs a little more poke and the top end is better than mine :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 06:45:54 pm
that sounds about right mate, does feel like it could be done with a little extra in mid range, still well chuffed at being in the top 10 in the table and also into the 12.sss :drinking:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Blade on June 20, 2010, 06:51:13 pm
Great time Owen  :happy2: :happy2:

How did Al do?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 06:54:28 pm
cheers mate.  I will let allen tell you his time
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 20, 2010, 07:18:29 pm
cheers mate.  I will let allen tell you his time

Oh you tease..  :jumping: Looks like you managed to smash your PB then mate.. Look forward to seeing how Al got on..
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 07:23:29 pm
yeah mate i knoecked over 1/4 second off my time, well chuffed... :jumpmove: :jumping: :party:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 20, 2010, 07:36:29 pm
 :congrats: Awesome effort mate for a manual Cupra.  :happy2: See, who needs DSG?  :grin: I'm itching to get to Pod now, everyone's overtaking me..  :grin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 20, 2010, 07:38:56 pm
Don't worry Ben, if you make it there I'm sure the times will drop :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 20, 2010, 07:42:15 pm
now thats a good time and done with a proper box not this auto cheating / letting the car do everything for you bollox  :P
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 07:50:42 pm
when is the next santa pod??? :party: :party: :party:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 20, 2010, 07:59:57 pm
Well it's GTI Fest in a couple of weeks, but i'm at a wedding so no go for me..  :sad1: However, i'm feeling a club meet coming on very soon  :wink:  :jumpmove: You fancy the trip Owen? Be good to compare against Crail on a proper drag strip..  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 20, 2010, 08:02:18 pm
Don't worry Ben, if you make it there I'm sure the times will drop :wink:

If I can't knock 2/10ths off with HPFP, Intake and Stage 2+ software then i'll be driving it into a wall..  :laugh:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 08:05:50 pm
to be fair to crail i think it is actually a bit slower than it should be, it was always .1 of a second slower on their timing gear than it was on my new datalogger which is GPS.

i wouldnt mind a trip down south. just need to see wahich dates there are and if they tie in with my next trip south???

never know i might really be getting a 12.8, but lets not start the whole "my track is more genuine than yours topic"
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 20, 2010, 08:22:45 pm
to be fair to crail i think it is actually a bit slower than it should be, it was always .1 of a second slower on their timing gear than it was on my new datalogger which is GPS.

i wouldnt mind a trip down south. just need to see wahich dates there are and if they tie in with my next trip south???

never know i might really be getting a 12.8, but lets not start the whole "my track is more genuine than yours topic"
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Get yourself down mate. I'm sure we can work some dates around yourself (and poss Al too). Even if it's mini meet of some sort..  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 08:40:00 pm
 :happy2:  will need to get something organised
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poverty on June 20, 2010, 08:53:12 pm
now thats a good time and done with a proper box not this auto cheating / letting the car do everything for you bollox  :P

everythings gonna be double clutch soon, even fiat will be fitting double clutchs on their cars soon. Times will be more machine dependent than man then :(
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 09:02:08 pm
not if i have anything to do with it hahahah, i will stick with the manual as long as possible
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poverty on June 20, 2010, 09:10:07 pm
not if i have anything to do with it hahahah, i will stick with the manual as long as possible

its days are limited sadly!

btw excellent times! Wonder how dan and al got on.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 20, 2010, 09:19:07 pm
Come on Dan and Al....WE WANT TIMES!!!!!!! :party: :party:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poverty on June 20, 2010, 09:24:49 pm
Come on Dan and Al....WE WANT TIMES!!!!!!! :party: :party:

i know dans times   :P
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 09:26:43 pm
Owen
http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_run.asp?CarNumber=7&RunDate=20100620

Allen
http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_run.asp?CarNumber=18&RunDate=20100620

Dan
http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_run.asp?CarNumber=11&RunDate=20100620

hope they dont mind :innocent:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on June 20, 2010, 09:28:03 pm
http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_run.asp?CarNumber=18&RunDate=20100620

12.95 @ 115.1

Owen did well today. I ended up driving the new Leon Cupra R down the 1/4 mile doing demos for people loads of times.

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_run.asp?CarNumber=77&RunDate=20100620

Slowish times as I had passengers, and I wasnt as hard on it as I would have been with my own car.

By the end of the day, I ended up with 3 lots of peoples crap in the back of the car including my own 2 spare wheels, hence the slower times at the end.

Dan and I swapped cars for one run (you can prob see which run if you look at both cars times lol). I also took someones K1 down, and a MK1 Leon Cupra.

That was my first and only shot in Dans car. Its is very very fast, but it delivers power in such a different way to the Cupra. I am pretty confident that if I got a day in it, it would be in to the 12's too - solid power wheelspin in 2nd in the dry with an LSD is not something I am used to in my car - make no mistake, times are no indication of how quick Dans car is.

Absolutely delighted getting in to the 12's. I think the car would go faster had it not been for the new brakes discs being too wide causing a bit of drag - job for this week to get the pads grinded down until the manufacturer redo them to the correct width.

Oh, and I got a 12 before Owen  :P
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 20, 2010, 09:30:05 pm
Two 12.9s and K04s ROCK!!!!  :notworthy:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 09:32:45 pm
Yeah you did allen but i got further into them :P



Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 20, 2010, 09:33:44 pm
Owen
http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_run.asp?CarNumber=7&RunDate=20100620

Allen
http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_run.asp?CarNumber=18&RunDate=20100620

Dan
http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_run.asp?CarNumber=11&RunDate=20100620

hope they dont mind :innocent:

Jesus Owen, 22 runs?  :surprised:  You 1/4 mile whore  :rolleye:

Yeah you did allen but i got further into them :P


You 2 are going to be like Rangers v's Celtic at this rate..  :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on June 20, 2010, 09:34:32 pm
Yeah you did allen but i got further into them :P




Indeed. Really chuffed for you lad. Was just saying that to Dan and his Mrs just now. You deserve it - good hard effort paid off  :happy2:

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 20, 2010, 09:34:50 pm
Good work guys :happy2:

Looks like the competition is hotting up

We need someone to crack 12.5 next and 120mph  :innocent:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 09:37:52 pm
needed to get my money worth, 22 runs but could have easily have been 30 if i didnt run dry of petrol

cheers AL, same back at you mate, thats a major milestone of our been done, now we need to make our next "realistic" target
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 20, 2010, 09:41:51 pm
Any vids chaps?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 20, 2010, 09:44:26 pm
thought dans would have been higher considering his power output!!  but all of you into the twelves is good drills :happy2: :happy2:

you guys havent even get your WMI on yet, so you have even more to take off yet. :jumpmove:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 20, 2010, 09:46:06 pm
The targets are laid out Owen. JonnyC has the number 1 spot, so that is what we all need to be aiming to beat.

Which means anything under 12.6 and terminals of over 116mph. Al is getting the terminals already, so he needs to practice his launches. I'd suspect he's doing 2.25 or over and with a 2.1 60' he could knock 0.25 of a second off his 12.96 already. That would be a solid 12.7 - - - without taking weight out. Take some weight out and the 12.6 is there for the asking :happy2:

Owen is getting better launches, but for some reason there is a little power missing off the top end.

Whatever happens I can't wait for next Saturday :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 09:56:09 pm
i am more than happy with my launches now and the lack of top end is down to me not being able to increase timing etc like th revo BUT, i am waiting on the arrival or a new Race file that will be used with WMI so should be able to increase timing a fair bit then i think 12.8 will be my target
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poverty on June 20, 2010, 10:10:16 pm
good results all round lads. Think dans car times is as I would have expected due to dan not having alot of 1/4 experience, and it being a new car to Al!

So is there gonna be another crail event next year?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 10:12:57 pm
there is event their once a month or so pov... pitty you couldnt make it mate.

we need to get a mega meet organised, very tempted to go to inters but cant be arsed waiting for an hour in a queue for the 1/4 each time!
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: chungster on June 20, 2010, 10:13:27 pm
thats DanGB isn't it....did he have problems? would have thought he'd be doing low 13's maybe 12's easy with BT power.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 20, 2010, 10:16:22 pm
yeah its dangb but its his first 1/4mile i beleive, his car is more focused on race tracks rather than 1/4mile... its bloody quick though
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on June 20, 2010, 10:19:13 pm
I was using some new tyres today that only got a proper surface by the time the day was done. Hopefully the launches will come better next time with them  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poverty on June 20, 2010, 10:23:24 pm
there is event their once a month or so pov... pitty you couldnt make it mate.

we need to get a mega meet organised, very tempted to go to inters but cant be arsed waiting for an hour in a queue for the 1/4 each time!

I did consider coming down late last night, but in full money saving mode for TTRS now!

Had a play with a sportec remapped TTRS last night in fact, cars are dead even stevens, the k04 is awesome in stage 2 plus form!
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on June 23, 2010, 08:08:57 pm
Found yesterday that my brake scuffage was a little bit more worrying than I expected - the pad was rubbing on the bell of the 2 piece disc. No idea how much that may have affected the time and terminal speed, but I will need to have that sorted for next time!

Just need to figure out how to slip in an extra gear change along the way as the car wont go any more in 4th in reality and with the WMI fitted and timing advanced, there is definitely going to be a higher speed attained  :pomppomp:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on June 23, 2010, 08:14:38 pm
Had a play with a sportec remapped TTRS last night in fact, cars are dead even stevens, the k04 is awesome in stage 2 plus form!

Said it already but seriously man.. Stage 2+ 2.0T FSI is no match for a 'properly' tuned TTRS.. That will become very clear this weekend..  :wink:

Owen..

Updated your time on the leader board now..  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on June 23, 2010, 10:14:15 pm
You removed my time and never put the new one up Jonny.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on June 23, 2010, 10:57:05 pm
You removed my time and never put the new one up Jonny.

Ooops..

Sorted mate!  :ashamed:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on June 23, 2010, 11:36:15 pm
Come on you lot! Its nice up here in the elite 12's club  :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on June 23, 2010, 11:46:14 pm
Come on you lot! Its nice up here in the elite 12's club  :signLOL:

Aye.. Its been a lonely 18 months at the top too..  :wink: :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on June 24, 2010, 12:00:53 am
I wonder how long it will be before another front drive K04 manual makes it in there though?!
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 24, 2010, 12:33:51 am
Dare I say it? ..... all 3 fettled by Statllers :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on June 24, 2010, 12:41:30 am
Dare I say it? ..... all 3 fettled by Statllers :wink:

Are going to run a 12.60 or faster?

Dare I say it? .... Doubt it  :popcornsoda: :P

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 24, 2010, 12:57:16 am
Dare I say it? ..... all 3 fettled by Statllers :wink:

Are going to run a 12.60 or faster?

Dare I say it? .... Doubt it  :popcornsoda: :P



Mine ...... Most likely  :P
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on June 24, 2010, 12:59:25 am
Lol if you don't then I will seriously have a little chuckle to myself mate..  :P
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 24, 2010, 01:05:49 am
Lol if you don't then I will seriously have a little chuckle to myself mate..  :P

I reckon 80bhp and similar torque on top of the K04 will help a little. What times were you doing last year at Inters?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on June 24, 2010, 07:32:48 am
Lol if you don't then I will seriously have a little chuckle to myself mate..  :P

I reckon 80bhp and similar torque on top of the K04 will help a little. What times were you doing last year at Inters?

Ohh for sure it will help.. That's what I mean! :) I'm really looking forward to seeing your car run with your new toy too :D

As far as I remember it was a 12.69.. Only did a few runs on the Sunday with a mate in the car with me :)
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on June 24, 2010, 09:03:44 am
Stattlers wont be running a K04 though from what I hear though - more like hybrids K04's? Also, they have only Craigs in manual form because Steves is a DSG.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 24, 2010, 09:53:27 am
still classed as a standard k04 turbo which is a good thing
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 24, 2010, 11:29:03 am
Neither of them have ever done 1/4 mile sprints before either, so it should prove interesting :driver: :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on June 24, 2010, 11:55:59 am
still classed as a standard k04 turbo which is a good thing

Surely they would be classed as K04 Hybrids?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 24, 2010, 12:11:31 pm
still classed as a standard k04 turbo which is a good thing

Surely they would be classed as K04 Hybrids?

True, but where would you put them on the list - aftermarket? :confused:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on June 24, 2010, 07:53:41 pm
still classed as a standard k04 turbo which is a good thing

I dont think a played with K04 should be classed as OEM K04 (which is why I listed the turbo's like that)

Hybrid will just go down on the list as HYBRID K04  :happy2:

True, but where would you put them on the list - aftermarket? :confused:

Yep.. As its not a 'standard' turbo any more..

Stock 'appearing' and stock are two different things..  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 24, 2010, 08:04:38 pm
What about my stock K04 with an added pinch of fuelling - still classed as stock K04 :evilgrin: :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on June 24, 2010, 08:33:08 pm
What about my stock K04 with an added pinch of fuelling - still classed as stock K04 :evilgrin: :wink:

Lol.. Yep yours is an OEM K04, the bottle in the boot can be our little secret  :grin:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 24, 2010, 10:12:43 pm
What about my stock K04 with an added pinch of fuelling - still classed as stock K04 :evilgrin: :wink:

Lol.. Yep yours is an OEM K04, the bottle in the boot can be our little secret  :grin:

Who has one piddly bottle :innocent:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 24, 2010, 10:36:06 pm
still classed as a standard k04 turbo which is a good thing

I dont think a played with K04 should be classed as OEM K04 (which is why I listed the turbo's like that)

Hybrid will just go down on the list as HYBRID K04  :happy2:

True, but where would you put them on the list - aftermarket? :confused:

Yep.. As its not a 'standard' turbo any more..

Stock 'appearing' and stock are two different things..
  :wink:

Totally agree Jonny.. Like someone having a HPFP over a stock one. Has to be listed..  :happy2:
John's laughing gas will also be listed down as engine mods..  :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on June 24, 2010, 10:53:05 pm
still classed as a standard k04 turbo which is a good thing

I dont think a played with K04 should be classed as OEM K04 (which is why I listed the turbo's like that)

Hybrid will just go down on the list as HYBRID K04  :happy2:

True, but where would you put them on the list - aftermarket? :confused:

Yep.. As its not a 'standard' turbo any more..

Stock 'appearing' and stock are two different things..
  :wink:

Totally agree Jonny.. Like someone having a HPFP over a stock one. Has to be listed..  :happy2:
John's laughing gas will also be listed down as engine mods..  :wink:

I wouldn't expect anything less :laugh:

Don't know what you mean about laughing gas though!

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Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 24, 2010, 10:59:30 pm
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Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poverty on June 24, 2010, 11:43:07 pm
I cant wait to see whats jonnys revo TTRS will do  :party: :party:

 
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: owen lcr on June 24, 2010, 11:45:14 pm
me tooo, think it is going to hit and 11.7ish  if it does that is new skyline territory :driver:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on July 27, 2010, 12:25:00 pm
Managed a 12.4 at 122.0mph today using the Performance box

Methinks 12.0 is achievable at a Dragstrip. Wonder if I ought to try the 150bhp nozzles :stupid:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: jonnyc on July 28, 2010, 10:02:06 pm
me tooo, think it is going to hit and 11.7ish  if it does that is new skyline territory :driver:

Not a bad guess ;)

Good effort on your runs John, now get to Santa Pod or York and do a run!  :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on August 16, 2010, 07:36:03 pm
Video of my 12.8.

You can see the cr*p on the floor at the start and the flags blowing towards me in the headwind, what you can't see is the nitrous going into alarm about 100 yards down the run :sad1:



12.822 @ 112.23
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on August 23, 2010, 05:02:50 pm
whats the difference between a 1/4 mile run and a drag strip 1/4 mile???    keeping seeing different times quoted for some cars
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on August 23, 2010, 05:12:07 pm
A Drag strip is generally where Dragsters (Top Fuel) run (ie Santa Pod) but also put on RWYB (Run What You Brung) days for the general public and have official regulations with regards to the timing, distance, gradient etc.. But you do get 1/4 mile strips set up at Shows etc (like at Bruntingthorpe) and aren't generally seen as being as accurate in some cases, apart from comparing with people running on the same day/event..
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poverty on January 23, 2011, 11:54:29 pm
i think there is going to be a new entry  :congrats:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 24, 2011, 09:14:05 am
i think there is going to be a new entry  :congrats:

Really? who?  :grin:

Cracking time by yourself yesterday too mate...  :congrats: Good to finally meet you this time  :smiley: (good bunch of lads).
Need one in my life  :sad1: and as for that RS4 comparison?!?!?  :surprised:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poppa Dom on January 24, 2011, 11:12:57 am
Poverty, what time(s) did you and the other TTRS guys post at the weekend?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poverty on January 24, 2011, 02:50:34 pm
My best time was a 12.5@116mph

The tt shop did a 13.1 in theirs and my mates stock one was a 13 something. I suppose we can add players to the table now too. He did a 13.1 in his stage 2 s3 not sure if that was with a passenger or not
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: useless on January 24, 2011, 05:15:11 pm
My best time was a 12.6@116mph

The tt shop did a 13.1 in theirs and my mates stock one was a 13 something. I suppose we can add players to the table now too. He did a 13.1 in his stage 2 s3 not sure if that was with a passenger or not

What's the time of stock TTRS?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 24, 2011, 06:27:57 pm
My best time was a 12.6@116mph

The tt shop did a 13.1 in theirs and my mates stock one was a 13 something. I suppose we can add players to the table now too. He did a 13.1 in his stage 2 s3 not sure if that was with a passenger or not

What's the time of stock TTRS?

Mid to late 12's on a good day I would say..
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poverty on January 24, 2011, 06:54:10 pm
My best time was a 12.6@116mph

The tt shop did a 13.1 in theirs and my mates stock one was a 13 something. I suppose we can add players to the table now too. He did a 13.1 in his stage 2 s3 not sure if that was with a passenger or not

What's the time of stock TTRS?

Apologies I did a 12.5 not a 12.6

Stock TTRS times:

The quickest S-tronic TTRS time ive heard of is a 12.2
The quickest manual time a 12.5
Jonnyc when stock did a 12.6
I did a 12.8 stock with a passenger.

Hope that helps
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on March 27, 2011, 08:29:11 pm
*UPDATE * UPDATE * UPDATE *  :signLOL:

Thought I would give the old girl one last run before going back to stock next week (yes I know I said I had retired her  :signLOL:, I blame Poverty  :grin:)..
Anyway, was worth the trip, as I managed to sort my 60ft times out...  :pomppomp: :pomppomp: :pomppomp:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw6%2FCUPRA270%2FSDC11709.jpg&hash=c066c1038f23b5c5535c9ee9d4ab707245122d77)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw6%2FCUPRA270%2FSDC11708.jpg&hash=16918da97815fe4af164fe6384fcd04b52f44a5e)

And against a 400bhp Mk2 Focus RS  :booty:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw6%2FCUPRA270%2FSDC11710.jpg&hash=74e62f741f86c67de1f88e70a9bb41ac30bc5af7)

You should of seen his face when I went past him after he shot off the line  :surprised:  :signLOL:

Got a good vid of Pov going up the strip (2up too)  :congrats:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi172.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw6%2FCUPRA270%2Fth_SDC11702.jpg&hash=1520ffc0b3f3476764fbe738aef822974d93d0c7) (http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w6/CUPRA270/?action=view&current=SDC11702.mp4)

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poppa Dom on March 27, 2011, 10:10:00 pm
Great result Ben  :congrats:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on March 27, 2011, 10:49:49 pm
Congratulations!
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: TrickGTI on June 12, 2011, 08:55:45 am
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh114%2Ftrick206%2Fd68d3b9e.jpg&hash=f89137602bac88a998ba313decd9998338b8f4b5)

Is this the right place to add my time for the leaderboard?

2006 mk5 gti ko3 manual revo stage 2+ road tyres verdesteins.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: ROH ECHT on June 12, 2011, 08:56:41 am
Mine was a standard K03 mkv with dsg and now it's running the AWE K04 kit with Giac high output file and giac dsg file plus mods in my sig...
Here's my 1st runs since I added my K04 to my `07 MKV GTI back in Dec.;
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1205.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb434%2Frohecht%2F026.jpg&hash=c063599aac8997387ccfa1e7d6b989696d2a165e)
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: gobbleplease on September 06, 2011, 10:58:43 pm
All right guys, Im going to start updating the 1/4 mile board ! so if you have any times to be entered either PM me the details and 1/4 mile slip or post them up here, in the same format as dicussed in post No1 of this thread.

Good Luck

 :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on September 07, 2011, 02:05:05 pm
All right guys, Im going to start updating the 1/4 mile board ! so if you have any times to be entered either PM me the details and 1/4 mile slip or post them up here, in the same format as dicussed in post No1 of this thread.

Good Luck

 :happy2:


Good man..  :happy2:

Mine is well overdue an update.. (See post 9 on this page)

12.75 @ 114.2mph
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: RobH on September 07, 2011, 06:40:44 pm
12.988 @ 113.9 - MANUAL - OEM K04 - REVO S2+ - TRACK TYRE - LEON CUPRA - Rob H (Damp Track) :grin:

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: gobbleplease on September 07, 2011, 09:43:21 pm
Good man..  :happy2:

Mine is well overdue an update.. (See post 9 on this page)

12.75 @ 114.2mph

Alright mate could you set it out as per the Board layout and ill copy and paste it, as im not sure about your car details Eg K04 ? Aftermarket turbo ? DSG ? Manual ? Track or road tyres ? Once this has been updated ill put it up !

Bloody quick time by the way !

Cheers Bryan
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: gobbleplease on September 07, 2011, 09:49:04 pm
12.988 @ 113.9 - MANUAL - OEM K04 - REVO S2+ - TRACK TYRE - LEON CUPRA - Rob H (Damp Track) :grin:



The 12s are coming thick and fast now !
post up the time slip or Internet Link to the results and ill get your time posted Rob !

Cheers
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: RobH on September 07, 2011, 09:55:46 pm
Carnt find the slip but heres the results page http://www.yorkdragway.org/results.pl car number is T63 on August 7th. It wont link to the exact page sorry.

You better make that a 12.989 @ 113.89 was only a thousands of a second out.

Cheers Mate.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on September 08, 2011, 05:52:41 pm
12.755 @ 114.2 - DSG - OEM K04 - REVO S2+ - ROAD TYRE - EDITION 30 - SUNGLASSES RON   :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: TT-Turbo on September 11, 2011, 10:01:26 pm
I'm surprised there are no s2+ Ko3 times up there. Would be curious to see if that puts the times into the 13's.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: gobbleplease on September 13, 2011, 09:18:07 pm
^^^Yip same here, when i had my stage 2+ gti i was doing about 13.8ish secs and that was with horrible tyres, a 13.5 would be easily achievable in my old car
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: dav-aberdeen on October 29, 2011, 04:58:03 pm
14.059 @ 104.2mph - MANUAL - OEM k04 - STANDARD - ROAD TYRE - MK2 LEON CUPRA - DAV-ABERDEEN


link...

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/showdrag.php?ID=3&EVDate=2011-07-24


Thought I would throw this in too. Cheers
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on October 30, 2011, 04:00:48 pm
That's an awesome time and terminal speed for a stock car mate..  :surprised: Defo no map (Stage 1)?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: dav-aberdeen on October 30, 2011, 09:06:50 pm
nope! i won a stage one revo map for that time  :happy2: at the scn national meet!

first time and last time on the 1/4. my misses was pilot for some of the times too, the slower ones were trying tc on/off etc
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: s3dubbin on October 30, 2011, 09:20:50 pm
Stage2+ s3 8p........12.92 at 111.9mph. The amount of money spent to run a 12sec is rediculous. Hopefully strip 1sec off that next year, thats the aim anyway. Stevie.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on October 31, 2011, 11:16:13 am
Shouldn't be too much money for a S3, due to the launch advantage (especially if S-Tronic).. To get a manual FWD K04 into the 12's is by no means easy.
Not been done at Pod yet AFAIK..
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: s3dubbin on October 31, 2011, 12:07:49 pm
Not sure exactly but i would guess at around £5000 without counting. And its a manual non of this automatic nonsense, quite happy to change gear.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on October 31, 2011, 01:20:28 pm
Not sure exactly but i would guess at around £5000 without counting. And its a manual non of this automatic nonsense, quite happy to change gear.

HPFP, Intake, TBE and map + a good launch will see 12's in a S3.. Been done before and no where near £5k  :confused:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: s3dubbin on October 31, 2011, 07:22:53 pm
We will agree to disagree Ron.  :drinking:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on November 02, 2011, 08:38:31 am
We will agree to disagree Ron.  :drinking:

Not getting into an argument Pal, just stating what is in black and white..  :wink:

Check post 9 on this page...

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9244.150.html

Also, DavidPhillips is on the 1/4 mile leader board in 3rd place.. Am I missing something mate? Did he cheat?  :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: s3dubbin on November 02, 2011, 09:51:26 am
Black/white, Orange/green. Dave the superstars s3 didnt run that. Never in a million years did he run a 12.7 at 107mph....maual gearbox, road tyres, stock clutch, stock engine mounts and a full tank of fuel. You will never ever convince me on that one. Stevie.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on November 02, 2011, 05:36:03 pm
I remember being a bit shocked when he claimed he did it. But I had no reason to disbelieve him and Al (Djhorace) was there on the day IIRC and confirmed it wasn't completely stripped etc...
Is this BS then mate? I'm only going off what was said when it happened (on this thread).. Or was there some details not disclosed?  :wink:

I still think it's possible to crack 12's though. My mate's Stage 2+, manual, pre FL S3 did a 13.1 @ 107mph @ Pod on his one and only run there. It was by no means a great run either..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi172.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw6%2FCUPRA270%2Fth_SDC10540-1.jpg&hash=a8af132e4f66806575c58d89b66d8c051fda0c69) (http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w6/CUPRA270/?action=view&current=SDC10540-1.mp4)
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: s3dubbin on November 02, 2011, 06:26:36 pm
He lives 2mins from me Ron. We have had plenty of "banter" over the years. 13.1 at 107mph is more realistic?? As said before the car was never set up or running the parts to be even close to these figs. Stevie.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: gazbutS3 on November 02, 2011, 06:38:44 pm
Think I'm with Ben, I ran a 13.3 with a stock slipping clutch, big fat 19" CK's and a tent in the boot, at inters though, so 12's should be possible with a bit of effort :wink:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: s3dubbin on November 02, 2011, 06:51:56 pm
I'm not saying 12's are not possible! Not once have i said that. But a 12.7 at 107mph?? You agree with that?? Wow. I will need to say sorry to Dave cause that is very impressive. Gaz even Mr Ron doesnt believe it. There is a man below who ran a 14.05 at 104mph, that is believable. Stevie.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on November 02, 2011, 08:05:54 pm
He lives 2mins from me Ron. We have had plenty of "banter" over the years. 13.1 at 107mph is more realistic?? As said before the car was never set up or running the parts to be even close to these figs. Stevie.

So just to sum up then Stevie, Dave was talking out his arse porkies then? Could of sworn he posted up the link to his results on Crail's website too (might be imagining that though)?

I'm confussed?!?!?  :confused:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: s3dubbin on November 03, 2011, 09:17:29 am
Lets not forget this is Crail and they had only just set up the timing equipment, i dont even believe my own time until i run at one of the other tracks down south. Is there a website that calculates times and speeds?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on November 03, 2011, 04:44:44 pm
Pod FTMFW  :pomppomp:  :grin:

There's this calculator, but it's not exactly gospel.. Not a million miles out though..

http://www.torquestats.com/modified/index.php?pid=calculator
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: strapper on November 03, 2011, 07:44:37 pm
I was at crail and saw the orange s3, Rapid!
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: s3dubbin on November 03, 2011, 09:09:43 pm
Slow as fuk! Your a barstewards!  :fighting2: You caravan luva! Am goin to get toast to blow your jap sh*te doors right off on sunday! Might of known you would have came along with your big sh*te stick!! Roll on sunday! We'll have a pint for your bday.

Whats York like? Reliable? Bit closer at hand for me. Doubt i will make pod. Stevie.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: strapper on November 03, 2011, 10:11:03 pm
Hahahaha think I'm just taking the R now. Plenty pints though :driver:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: RobH on December 16, 2011, 07:56:07 pm
12's in a manual stage 2+ S3 should be pretty easy imo and certainly wont cost £5k.

Tbh i was thinking maybe we should change this 1/4 mile leader board from being 2.0tfsi based to a forum 1/4 board seen as though theres that many people these days with different cars or that have changed to something new ie polo gti's, ttrs's and 135i's this thread has been pretty quiet over the last year compared to what it was or maybe start a new leader board :popcornsoda:

I'll crack a 12 sec run at pod for you next year pal!
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Hurdy on December 17, 2011, 05:32:25 pm
a mapped manual S3 in the 12's would need an awesome launch, but it is doable. If I can get into the 13's with a 1.4, then 12' in a stage 2/2+ S3 should be easy :smiley:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on January 17, 2012, 01:14:38 pm
Here is the S3 in question. My old Leon is first up vs a 290bhp Focus ST and the S3 is at 41 seconds vs a 290bhp VXR.

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: djhorace on January 17, 2012, 01:29:26 pm
Should point out that I believe the 12.7as it was done the day I was there running low 13's and you can see from the clip the S3 is seriously rapid.

What is worth pointing out is this though - the launch on the S3 is everything. My 2.2x 60 foot time vs the 1.7x time on the S3. What is also interesting is the S3's 8mph defecit at the end of the 1/4 mile.

Working it out, average speed over 60 feet in the S3 is 24.1mph vs my 18.6mph. Assuming therefore that the S3 is doing 48.2mph vs 36.4mph in the Cupra, the front drive makes up 20mph over the rest of the 1/4 mile to be 8mph faster at the top end.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: s3dubbin on January 17, 2012, 02:28:17 pm
That seriously quick s3 driver is now pimpin a lovely suzuki jimny. Noice!  :drinking:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on March 10, 2012, 09:49:30 pm
The leaderboard needs updating now

We have a new 1/4 mile leader!!!!!!!!!

Keith@APR with a 12.2 Second 1/4 at Santapod today with a terminal of 110mph.

Now that is going to take some beating!!  :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: s3dubbin on March 10, 2012, 10:11:15 pm
What is the cars spec, do you know?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on March 10, 2012, 10:27:45 pm
Golf R
Stage 2+ APR
VWR TBE
VWR Intake
APR HPFP
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: s3dubbin on March 11, 2012, 09:18:07 am
That is super quick! DSG?? That is awesome.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: R-tech-Nick on March 11, 2012, 08:13:50 pm
ED30 Golf Mk5


DSG with R-Tech Gen1-DSG map
OEM K04  & exhaust
Pipercross AIr filter
Road Tyres (unknown)
V-power Fuel
Driver = Andy who is a 1/4 mile virgin
Remap = R-Tech Spec1 custom 285bhp 300lbft

11/03/2011 @ Santa Pod 13.5s 105mph

Lucky git got fastest time in the X-fest demo and won a ride in a fully blown top fuel 2 seat drag car...lol    :driver:

Very happy with the result
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on March 12, 2012, 04:18:26 pm
The leaderboard needs updating now

We have a new 1/4 mile leader!!!!!!!!!

Keith@APR with a 12.2 Second 1/4 at Santapod today with a terminal of 110mph.

Now that is going to take some beating!!  :notworthy: :notworthy:

Great time that Keith  :congrats: Just goes to show you how good 4WD + DSG + LC works.. Terminals are equivalent to Revo too..

Shame there isn't any/many other Revo Stage 2+, DSG/S-Tronic, S3/Golf R's to compare against.. Such a great combination/weapon when on the 1/4 mile..

Be good to see how a APR Stage 2+ ED30 gets on @ Pod...?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: gazbutS3 on March 12, 2012, 06:51:18 pm
Jussa has a Revo stage 2+ DSG S3, he needs to get his @rse up the strip  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: tony_danza on March 12, 2012, 07:02:29 pm
Wow, that launch bought some time, as it's 5mph behind Jonny's terminal when he ran a 12.6 in his ED30.  :congrats:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Keith@APR on April 24, 2012, 06:04:39 pm
Here is the timeslip.

Thanks everyone!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goapr.com%2Fnews%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F04%2FGolf-R-Santa-Pod-Timeslip.jpg&hash=ce135229ebbcd3c81825fd440793d3580eae5db1)
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Dp_Ed30 on April 29, 2012, 06:02:45 pm
Quote
Be good to see how a APR Stage 2+ ED30 gets on @ Pod...?

Street nationals is 2 weeks away, providing my intake arrives in stock before then il have some numbers for you :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: rich83 on April 29, 2012, 06:05:56 pm
14.14 @ 101.28..... I'm sure i can do a sub 14 without anymore engine mods, i just need a bit of practice and less weight.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: gobbleplease on April 29, 2012, 07:51:21 pm
Here is the timeslip.

Thanks everyone!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goapr.com%2Fnews%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F04%2FGolf-R-Santa-Pod-Timeslip.jpg&hash=ce135229ebbcd3c81825fd440793d3580eae5db1)

Well done mate, set it out as per the leader board - with your mods and ill paste it at the top  :star:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 10, 2012, 03:58:19 pm
it would be

 12.277 @ 110.02 - DSG - OEM K04 - APR S2+ - ROAD TYRE TYRE - MK6 GOLF R - Keith@APR
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: LC_15 on July 01, 2012, 09:39:41 pm
So I have been told to put my run up from today, wanted to get into the 13's which i did and very happy with it.

My run today was 13.99, 106.5mph Terminal speed, Leon Cupra mk2, Manual, APR stage 2, Road tyres

Was good will get my slip up tomo.

Can someone update the time/scoreboard.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on July 02, 2012, 09:31:00 am
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9380.0.html

Nice run mate.. Where was this at?
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Janner_Sy on July 02, 2012, 09:38:23 am
It needs quite a few updates i think.  Keith@APR and Jussa i think have the #1 &#2 positions now.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: LC_15 on July 02, 2012, 06:32:23 pm
Yeah it does need updating, and at Santa Pod.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Dp_Ed30 on July 02, 2012, 06:35:11 pm
i never added my times, i did 13.3@112mph at pod.

car spec was apr stage 2+, stock intake, scrubbed toyo t1r tyres, full weight car

only problems it i can't find my slips, so its like it didn't happen :sad1:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poverty on July 02, 2012, 06:48:10 pm
i never added my times, i did 13.3@112mph at pod.

car spec was apr stage 2+, stock intake, scrubbed toyo t1r tyres, full weight car

only problems it i can't find my slips, so its like it didn't happen :sad1:

thats a proper good time for your spec!
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on July 02, 2012, 08:52:51 pm
Is that a manual I take it mate? If so, nice work..  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Dp_Ed30 on July 02, 2012, 08:55:55 pm
my cars a DSG :driver:

will be heading back soon with the above spec +

itg maxogen
wmi
ao48 tyres
light weight car

want to get in to 12s then i can strip the car and move on to a mk6 tsi or a golf R :party:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on July 02, 2012, 08:59:19 pm
Definitely a lot of room for improvement with that spec mate.. Look forward to the seeing what she does..  :party:

Who's up for a meet at Pod soon? I'm getting itchy feet again as I haven't been for a while..  :signLOL:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on July 02, 2012, 09:02:17 pm
Yeah it does need updating, and at Santa Pod.

Agree with this.. Times should be for a proper strip IMO (Crail is OK). As good as Inters is for a laugh. Some of the results over the years can be a little  :rolleye:

If not, then at least have the venue listed with your time (although saying that, Inter's times are easy to spot due to no terminal speed)..
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Dp_Ed30 on July 02, 2012, 09:16:09 pm
Definitely a lot of room for improvement with that spec mate.. Look forward to the seeing what she does..  :party:

Who's up for a meet at Pod soon? I'm getting itchy feet again as I haven't been for a while..  :signLOL:

yeh i am, i did post in the track section but no takers
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on July 02, 2012, 10:07:23 pm
+1 then..  :happy2:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: RobH on July 02, 2012, 10:59:26 pm
Ill be up for a run at pod, once the clutch is sorted.

I still think there's room for improvement :grin: :driver:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: LC_15 on July 02, 2012, 11:42:54 pm
Yeh +1 ill go, am stuck between a intercooler or kitting out my cleaning products again hmm.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poverty on July 02, 2012, 11:48:38 pm
jonny is arranging a pod meet 11th august
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: rich83 on July 03, 2012, 12:17:24 am
jonny is arranging a pod meet 11th august

Id be up for this...
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on July 03, 2012, 08:23:05 am
jonny is arranging a pod meet 11th august

Just noticed this on FB Jas.. I'm game.  :party:

Yeh +1 ill go, am stuck between a intercooler or kitting out my cleaning products again hmm.

Cooler it is then...  :wink: Can't run a 12 second 1/4 in a bottle of Dodo Juice..  :laugh:
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Dp_Ed30 on July 03, 2012, 02:03:12 pm
jonny is arranging a pod meet 11th august

Id be up for this...

+1

Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Poverty on July 03, 2012, 04:03:56 pm
Looks like we better had a official pod meet thread then!
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: LC_15 on July 03, 2012, 04:33:21 pm
Yeh +1 ill go, am stuck between a intercooler or kitting out my cleaning products again hmm.

Cooler it is then...  :wink: Can't run a 12 second 1/4 in a bottle of Dodo Juice..  :laugh:
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HaHa well cooler it is, just have to wait till this evening see what the money situation is and then order it tonight ready for weekend fitting.
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: Shorty on July 04, 2012, 05:50:43 pm
I'll be up for the Pod in August too, be nice to see what my car can do!
Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
Post by: K1 on July 15, 2012, 08:05:55 pm
    LINK TO THE LEADER BOARD CAN BE FOUND HERE

    http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9380.0

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    Hey all,

    So I don't know how many of you guys are familiar with the 2.0T FSI top 20 leader board on the Vortex forum in the US??

    http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4605509

    As the 2.0 TFSI/TSI engine is becoming more and more developed these times are really starting to come down! And as a result the competition is hotting up..

    As the last few 1/4 mile meets have been quite a success and everyone seems to enjoy it I thought it would be a bit of fun to have something similar for this forum too? Obviously our times would also qualify for the main Top 20 over on Vortex, so a bit of UK vs. US which is never a bad thing  :grin:

    We could have our own UK top 20 leader board (all times can be added to this now from the last year or so) and along side that the fastest car in the following categories..

    * K03 Manual
    * K03 DSG
    * K04 Manual
    * K04 DSG
    * Aftermarket Manual
    * Aftermarket DSG
    * Overall Fastest

    This way everyone has a fair chance of having some equal competition to run against.. The overall top 20 is great, but if your running a tuned K03 then you don't really stand much chance against the big turbo cars etc etc..

    The rules..

    • You must run a time at a 1/4 mile event in the UK and post up with your best run with an accompanying time slip.. If your in the top 20 then your added to the board, and if your top in your class then happy days!  :smiley:

    • The leader board is open to all cars (FWD & 4WD) produced as standard with the 2.0 TFSI/TSI..

    • Cars should all run fuel purchased from the pump AND road legal tyres.. (this is to stop some guys turning up with race fuel and slicks and having a seconds advantage over everyone else)

    Posting new times..

    When posting a new time you should list the following:

    • The time and speed that your car ran - with an accompanying time slip

    • Gearbox type that your car has fitted - DSG or MAN (S-Tronic also falls under the DSG name to keep it simple)

    • The turbo fitted to your car - Eg. OEM K04 or GT2871R etc..

    • The ECU tune that your car is running - Eg. Revo S1 or GIAC or APR S2 etc..

    • What tyres - R888's would be classed as TRACK / Pilot Sports would be ROAD (All tyres must be road legal)

    • Your car Model

    • Your name

    Which should end up looking something like this

    12.601 @ 115.85 - DSG - OEM K04 - REVO S2+ - TRACK TYRE - MK5 ED30 - JonnyC

    So thats about it really, just for fun, but with a competitive edge to keep it interesting!!  :wink:

    Have fun!!![/list][/list][/list][/list][/list][/list][/list]

    Hi there I would like to post my times. Here's my time made at Crail Scotland. if you need any proof I will send to a slip of my times made. Could you help please? Thanks anthony37.

     13.047 @ 113.9   - MAN - OEM K04  -REVO S2 +  R888  TYRE - LEON CUPRA - anthony37-K1
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: gobbleplease on July 26, 2012, 12:54:43 pm
    Well done mate ill up date the board in a couple of days ive got a couple to enter. Im always on my i phone at the moment and need a computer to update.

    Either post a link on crails site to your time or take a picture of your slip and post it on here for me to enter it, these were the rules before i started updating, so its only fair to keep em going
    Ive got a new car now so im not on this forum as much now !

    Cheers Bry
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: gobbleplease on September 03, 2012, 09:45:39 pm
    Ive updated all the times where time slips were provided now ! There was only 1 with a provided slip that i seen and that was from Keith @APR  :happy2:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Keith@APR on September 03, 2012, 10:05:37 pm
    Ive updated all the times where time slips were provided now ! There was only 1 with a provided slip that i seen and that was from Keith @APR  :happy2:

    Thanks for that!  Golf R APR Power FTW!  :signLOL:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: djhorace on September 03, 2012, 10:09:16 pm
    I have a 13 dead in the "new" car which I have had for 2 years and 2 days now  :grin:. Terminal speed was 113.6mph

    http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/showcomp.php?RID=3&RUN=56&EVDate=2011-09-04

    Also have a new high terminal speed on a 13.074 run @ 116.3mph

    http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/showcomp.php?RID=45&RUN=21&EVDate=2012-05-27

    Car - 2010 Leon Cupra, K04 Turbo, Front Drive, Manual Gears, Revo Stage 2+, Toyo R888, no water meths.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Keith@APR on September 03, 2012, 10:17:14 pm
    I have a 13 dead in the "new" car which I have had for 2 years and 2 days now  :grin:. Terminal speed was 113.6mph

    http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/showcomp.php?RID=3&RUN=56&EVDate=2011-09-04

    Also have a new high terminal speed on a 13.074 run @ 116.3mph

    http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/showcomp.php?RID=45&RUN=21&EVDate=2012-05-27

    Car - 2010 Leon Cupra, K04 Turbo, Front Drive, Manual Gears, Revo Stage 2+, Toyo R888, no water meths.

    Nice!  Terminals usually do go up as 60's increase.  On the 113mph pass you had a 60' of 2.1 but on the 116mph you had a 60' foot of 2.4 almost 2.5?  Did you go with different tyres or some such?  I've never been to crail, is the track prep rather hit and miss?  Get your 60' back down to ~2.1 and you'll see the terminal come down as well but so does the ET!
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on September 03, 2012, 11:24:43 pm
    The K04 DSG leader and overall leader on that list now need changing to Keith from JonnyC.  :happy2:

    I'll be hopefully adding to the party soon. :happy2:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: djhorace on September 04, 2012, 07:56:53 am
    I have a 13 dead in the "new" car which I have had for 2 years and 2 days now  :grin:. Terminal speed was 113.6mph

    http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/showcomp.php?RID=3&RUN=56&EVDate=2011-09-04

    Also have a new high terminal speed on a 13.074 run @ 116.3mph

    http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/showcomp.php?RID=45&RUN=21&EVDate=2012-05-27

    Car - 2010 Leon Cupra, K04 Turbo, Front Drive, Manual Gears, Revo Stage 2+, Toyo R888, no water meths.

    Nice!  Terminals usually do go up as 60's increase.  On the 113mph pass you had a 60' of 2.1 but on the 116mph you had a 60' foot of 2.4 almost 2.5?  Did you go with different tyres or some such?  I've never been to crail, is the track prep rather hit and miss?  Get your 60' back down to ~2.1 and you'll see the terminal come down as well but so does the ET!

    Both runs had 2.1 60 foot times Keith :-)

    Car had more bolt ons second time which may explain higher terminal speed.

    Should cars with water meths be highlighted as having it on this list?
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Keith@APR on September 04, 2012, 10:44:42 am
    I have a 13 dead in the "new" car which I have had for 2 years and 2 days now  :grin:. Terminal speed was 113.6mph

    http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/showcomp.php?RID=3&RUN=56&EVDate=2011-09-04

    Also have a new high terminal speed on a 13.074 run @ 116.3mph

    http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/showcomp.php?RID=45&RUN=21&EVDate=2012-05-27

    Car - 2010 Leon Cupra, K04 Turbo, Front Drive, Manual Gears, Revo Stage 2+, Toyo R888, no water meths.

    Nice!  Terminals usually do go up as 60's increase.  On the 113mph pass you had a 60' of 2.1 but on the 116mph you had a 60' foot of 2.4 almost 2.5?  Did you go with different tyres or some such?  I've never been to crail, is the track prep rather hit and miss?  Get your 60' back down to ~2.1 and you'll see the terminal come down as well but so does the ET!

    Both runs had 2.1 60 foot times Keith :-)

    Car had more bolt ons second time which may explain higher terminal speed.

    Should cars with water meths be highlighted as having it on this list?

    Ah yes!  That is right.  My apologies, I looked at the Celica that ran next to you somehow.  :ashamed:

    An increase of 3mph is very nice!!  Those bolt-ons helped quite a bit.

    I think fuel in general should be added to the list which should include water meth.  A new column would be perfect.  Mine was on vpower.

    I think it should be like this:

    98 octane + water meth             98 octane            ms109 + water meth           ms116      etc.

    Fuel quality makes a huge difference and water meth is a fuel  for sure even though its injected from a single nozzle usually before the throttle plate, it still ends up in the combustion chamber and burns.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Keith@APR on September 04, 2012, 10:48:47 am
    DA is also very important as well.  Might be nice to have that on there too.

    DA sometimes makes a HUGE difference in times.  All pro teams calculate DA at every event and even try to predict what it will be before race day.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Janner_Sy on September 04, 2012, 11:07:31 am
    Whats DA?
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Keith@APR on September 04, 2012, 11:42:32 am
    Whats DA?

    Density Altitude.  Its a calculation that takes into account weather and elevation on any given day at any given track in order to equalize times at different tracks and/or different days.

    Its rather interesting, here's a link to a calculator:  http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-altitude-calculator.php

    It helps alot for tracks that have differences in elevation and times had on different seasons/weather conditions.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Keith@APR on September 04, 2012, 11:59:46 am
    For example, looking at just altitude alone, Crail is 23 meters above sea level and Santa Pod is 105 meters above sea level.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Keith@APR on September 04, 2012, 01:06:05 pm
    If you were to go Santa Pod today at noon and run a 12.2@110mph the DA would be 740ft and using the calculator it would correct your time to 12.19@110mph.

    If you were to go Crail today at noon and run a 12.2@110mph the DA would be 356ft and using the calculator it would correct your time to 12.29@109mph.

    Today's weather is very similar the main differences being the Relative Humidity and Altitude of the tracks.

    Crail @ noon                           Santa Pod @ noon
    17.6 C                                    18.4 C
    1018 Hpa                               1023 Hpa
    45%                                       90%
    23MSL                                    105MSL
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: djhorace on September 04, 2012, 01:06:57 pm
    I agree - Would be worth noting that "K1" above has WMI and 420bhp.

    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on September 04, 2012, 01:08:54 pm
    Density Altitude is not just elevation you can have high DA on a beach or low DA on a hilltop.

    Its referenced to the International standard atmosphere which is 1013 Hectopascals or 29.92 inches for you Keith  :wink:

    And 15 degrees Celsius decreasing by 2 degrees per 1000 feet...

    As Keith said its all about mixture and why on a cold crisp clear December morning sometimes your GTI feels ace
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on September 04, 2012, 01:15:27 pm
    Rumour has it Statllers 4XX eddie is at brunters this week with timing gear and a new map, if I make it there (currently dodging landslides in Corsica) I'll sneak on here what it made, think its more of a 30-130 machine though with it being FWD
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Keith@APR on September 04, 2012, 01:19:18 pm
    Density Altitude is not just elevation you can have high DA on a beach or low DA on a hilltop.

    Its referenced to the International standard atmosphere which is 1013 Hectopascals or 29.92 inches for you Keith  :wink:

    And 15 degrees Celsius decreasing by 2 degrees per 1000 feet...

    As Keith said its all about mixture and why on a cold crisp clear December morning sometimes your GTI feels ace

    I've found all of the conversion calculators necessary, thank you!  I may not think in it but I can type in it (after some time spent on google).  :signLOL:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Sunglasses Ron on September 04, 2012, 10:22:30 pm
    Rumour has it Statllers 4XX eddie is at brunters this week with timing gear and a new map, if I make it there (currently dodging landslides in Corsica) I'll sneak on here what it made, think its more of a 30-130 machine though with it being FWD

    Fingers crossed that Steve and the team get some nice figures from it this time round, as it's been very disappointing when run at other events for some reason..  :sad1:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Sunglasses Ron on September 04, 2012, 10:23:31 pm
    Density Altitude is not just elevation you can have high DA on a beach or low DA on a hilltop.

    Its referenced to the International standard atmosphere which is 1013 Hectopascals or 29.92 inches for you Keith  :wink:

    And 15 degrees Celsius decreasing by 2 degrees per 1000 feet...

    As Keith said its all about mixture and why on a cold crisp clear December morning sometimes your GTI feels ace

    Need to remember all this when I next run.. Could give me a couple of extra 1/10ths by confusing the sh*t out of everyone..  :signLOL:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on September 29, 2012, 06:31:37 pm
    So, two weeks from today will be the R's virgin outing to the Pod (weather permitting!)

    I will be full weight including spare and stage 2+, no suspension mods by then, so just engine mods DSG map and the race Haldex controller.

    Any ideas what to expect?

     :party:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Poppa Dom on September 29, 2012, 07:13:54 pm
    Help us out a little John, what you weighing in at  :signLOL:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on September 29, 2012, 07:52:53 pm
    Help us out a little John, what you weighing in at  :signLOL:

    I'm fat! :rolleye:

    Seriously though the car on the weighbridge comes in at spot on 1500kg with half a tank of fuel, so she's a heavy old bird!

    Some decent lightness to be added in future though. :wink:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: RobH on September 29, 2012, 08:29:15 pm
    12.5 easy peasy :laugh: If the weathers good and the usual rabble that turn up in their sheds on the last outing of the year and leave most of it on the track stay at home :stupid:

    Is steve going down in the eddy with you? Be good to see what it can do.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on September 29, 2012, 09:04:42 pm
    12.5 easy peasy :laugh: If the weathers good and the usual rabble that turn up in their sheds on the last outing of the year and leave most of it on the track stay at home :stupid:

    Is steve going down in the eddy with you? Be good to see what it can do.

    I'll ask him, but I think he is worried about the .:R beating his time :wink:

    Personally I'd love a 12.5 second 1/4 mile under my belt with full weight and stock suspension at stage 2+ as that would make it quicker then the ED30 ever was officially, but I guess we will have to see.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on September 29, 2012, 09:08:10 pm
    Also I guess you have to look at the existing leaderboard and an awful lot of S3's in various states of tune have run down the strips and the best one of those was 12.7 with a GT3071R strapped to it! :surprised:

    I'll not be as fast as Keith's APR monster, but I'll have to give it a go. :smiley:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Poppa Dom on September 30, 2012, 09:47:13 am
    I'll put the pod in the diary John and see you there :)
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: RobH on September 30, 2012, 10:04:15 am
    Also I guess you have to look at the existing leaderboard and an awful lot of S3's in various states of tune have run down the strips and the best one of those was 12.7 with a GT3071R strapped to it! :surprised:

    I'll not be as fast as Keith's APR monster, but I'll have to give it a go. :smiley:

    Toms is the only S3 stronic though and he did 13.2 with just stage 1 and APR's was full weight...... or so they tell us, so i think you'll be looking around mid 12's. Are you going down on the 14th?
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on September 30, 2012, 02:47:05 pm
    I'll put the pod in the diary John and see you there :)

     :happy2: Ok Dom be good to catch up.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on September 30, 2012, 02:48:16 pm
    Also I guess you have to look at the existing leaderboard and an awful lot of S3's in various states of tune have run down the strips and the best one of those was 12.7 with a GT3071R strapped to it! :surprised:

    I'll not be as fast as Keith's APR monster, but I'll have to give it a go. :smiley:

    Toms is the only S3 stronic though and he did 13.2 with just stage 1 and APR's was full weight...... or so they tell us, so i think you'll be looking around mid 12's. Are you going down on the 14th?

    Yes I am Rob, last fling of the season so hopefully it will be good weather too. :smiley:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Sunglasses Ron on October 01, 2012, 09:26:59 am
    12.5 easy peasy :laugh: If the weathers good and the usual rabble that turn up in their sheds on the last outing of the year and leave most of it on the track stay at home :stupid:

    Is steve going down in the eddy with you? Be good to see what it can do.

    I'll ask him, but I think he is worried about the .:R beating his time :wink:

    Personally I'd love a 12.5 second 1/4 mile under my belt with full weight and stock suspension at stage 2+ as that would make it quicker then the ED30 ever was officially, but I guess we will have to see.

    Your time will definitely be a quicker than your ED30 was, but that will be down to the mental launch that 4WD - LC and DSG produce.. The terminal speed will be lower though IMO..

    Stage 2+ Ed30's can crack 113-114mph @ Pod, where as Keith's/APR's .:R did 110mph. So slower once on the move, but a lot quicker off the mark. Given the 100-150kgs weight advantage though, this is inevitable.

    I think once all Stage 2+ mods are in place, you will easily match Keith's results John (although you may need lighter rims like APR's car)..  :happy2:

    Let me know for definite closer to the day and I may pop down John..  :happy2:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Jussa on October 01, 2012, 03:54:21 pm
    Is this thread still busy, as my times at Inter would put me quite far up the board?  :party:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Janner_Sy on October 01, 2012, 04:24:45 pm
    the guy who adds the figures doesnt come on here very often anymore
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Jussa on October 01, 2012, 04:43:14 pm
    Mmmm, well that makes this thread quite worthless, unless somebody took it over  :confused:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Janner_Sy on October 01, 2012, 04:50:58 pm
    Mmmm, well that makes this thread quite worthless, unless somebody took it over  :confused:

    the best thing is, he took it over from someone else for that very reason :laugh:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: RedRobin on October 01, 2012, 05:01:55 pm
    ^^^^
    Perhaps the solution might be for someone to copy and paste the Leader Board into a brand new thread and ask the site Admin team to lock or trash the existing thread. It needs to be started and managed by a volunteer who is into the quarter-mile scene (not me!) and is likely to stick around.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on October 01, 2012, 05:18:03 pm
    Well, I'm doing one on VWVortex for the Golf .:R section, so could take over this one too and keep both lists separate, but include both for reference.

     :happy2:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Jussa on October 01, 2012, 05:26:14 pm
    That sounds fine, but who makes that decision  :signLOL:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on October 01, 2012, 07:49:26 pm
    That sounds fine, but who makes that decision  :signLOL:

    Dunno.....Moderators? :smiley:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: RedRobin on October 01, 2012, 09:12:30 pm
    ^^^^
    You would be perfect for it, John.  :happy2:

    PM the Admin team.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Jussa on October 01, 2012, 11:22:25 pm
    ^^^^
    You would be perfect for it, John.  :happy2:

    PM the Admin team.

    Yes I agree, PM one of the 'powers that be' and get in on the act!!!
    Saying that, once your mods are done you'll probably be adding your name to the top of the list  :happy2:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on October 02, 2012, 02:05:02 am
    Gobbleplease was on here yesterday, so he still visits and his last update was on the 9th September, so maybe if he pops on here first and posts so we know if he is okay with "being taken over" :smiley:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Jussa on October 02, 2012, 09:23:33 am
    Hmmmm, with my Inters time I'd be 4th on that list.

    I'm hoping to do a lot better at the Pod next month.  :party:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: RedRobin on October 02, 2012, 09:33:11 am

    Hmmmm, with my Inters time I'd be 4th on that list.

    I'm hoping to do a lot better at the Pod next month.  :party:


    ....Santa Pod times are officially NHRA recognised. As far as I know, Inters are not.

    If that list was revised I probably wouldn't still be 1st in my class at Santa Pod.

    I'm not intending to do any more quarter-mile drags though.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Sunglasses Ron on October 02, 2012, 07:03:06 pm
    No offence to Inters runners, but I think the leaderboard should be kept for full time drag strips only. Besides which, Inters don't provide terminal speeds, which IMO are just as important as the ET..

    Jusa - Don't worry pal, if you're running at Pod soon, you'll be well up the list in a 4WD, S-Tronic K04..  :happy2:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Jussa on October 02, 2012, 07:18:17 pm
    No worries mate, I'll get my chance next month on the Pod, never been before  :pomppomp:
    Do you know if they rent out helmets at the Pod or do I need to buy one?
    We're still waiting to see whether Hurdy can administer the leader board   :chicken:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on October 02, 2012, 07:34:45 pm
    Hmmmm, with my Inters time I'd be 4th on that list.

    I'm hoping to do a lot better at the Pod next month.  :party:

    This month! :grin:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Jussa on October 02, 2012, 07:35:52 pm
    Hmmmm, with my Inters time I'd be 4th on that list.

    I'm hoping to do a lot better at the Pod next month.  :party:

    This month! :grin:

    You see what happens when you've been on 10 days holiday, you lose track of the months  :signLOL:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on October 02, 2012, 07:37:56 pm
    No offence to Inters runners, but I think the leaderboard should be kept for full time drag strips only. Besides which, Inters don't provide terminal speeds, which IMO are just as important as the ET..

    Jusa - Don't worry pal, if you're running at Pod soon, you'll be well up the list in a 4WD, S-Tronic K04..  :happy2:

    Jussa should easily be in the 12's. :smiley:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Jussa on October 02, 2012, 07:42:05 pm
    No offence to Inters runners, but I think the leaderboard should be kept for full time drag strips only. Besides which, Inters don't provide terminal speeds, which IMO are just as important as the ET..

    Jusa - Don't worry pal, if you're running at Pod soon, you'll be well up the list in a 4WD, S-Tronic K04..  :happy2:

    Jussa should easily be in the 12's. :smiley:

    Hmmmm, well if I did a 12.722 at Inters (depending on how accurate their measurements are) and also with that hurricane wind, I should hope I can do low 12's - especially if I get that custom DSG map  :evilgrin: and launch at 6000rpm  :signLOL:

    John will get 11's at least if his car is sorted by then  :notworthy:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: gobbleplease on October 15, 2012, 11:26:21 pm
    right Im putting a K03 Table up guys so lets get some K03 times up for the K03 :smiley: leaderboard.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Poverty on October 16, 2012, 03:33:57 pm
    What about the 1.4tsi boys and girls. And the rare 2.0tdi times. Might aswell make a table for every TFSi engine, or one master table where all the Tfsi times are bunched together, would be informative. They do something similiar over on vagoc and the 6speed forums, but this forum has the most 2.0tfsi data.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: gobbleplease on October 16, 2012, 06:36:25 pm
    I would of Done It's just when you've got a long post on this forum every letter you write from about 12 lines down will redirect you back to the top of the post, you then need to scroll back down to check what you've written and as soon as you type another letter it again will redirect you to the top of the post. So when I'm adding times or modding the table it takes a while.

    My plan was to do it all in the first few posts of the table eg each of the top posts will be a different table / group !
    But there are a good few posts there now so it won't have the same effect now as the posts won't be in the same area at the top of the page if anyone has a post in the leader board section and would care to delete it - re-enter it here if its a timeslip etc etc it would be much appreciated and make entry easier

    Ta

    Bry
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Alex007 on May 07, 2013, 07:09:44 pm
    12.7498 @110.05 - Dsg - oem ko4 - apr stage 2+ - road tyre - mk5 edition 30 - Alex007

    Link to my time on Santa pods street challenge

     http://www.rwyb.co.uk/cc_results2013.php
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: rich83 on May 07, 2013, 07:11:25 pm
    12.7498 @110.05 - Dsg - oem ko4 - apr stage 2+ - road tyre - mk5 edition 30 - Alex007

    Link to my time on Santa pods street challenge

     http://www.rwyb.co.uk/cc_results2013.php

    Thats a really good time.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Shorty on May 07, 2013, 07:55:47 pm
    12.7498 @110.05 - Dsg - oem ko4 - apr stage 2+ - road tyre - mk5 edition 30 - Alex007

    Link to my time on Santa pods street challenge

     http://www.rwyb.co.uk/cc_results2013.php

    Was waiting for you to come onto this thread..  :happy2: :smiley:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on May 08, 2013, 08:41:44 am
    Great time that Alex :happy2:

    Just a quick note, how the hell can go carts be in the RWYB CC list. I thought that cars had to be road legal.........and had to be cars!
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Alex007 on May 08, 2013, 06:37:11 pm
    that's exactly what I was thinking hurdy, don't stand a chance with them in the class!!
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Janner_Sy on May 08, 2013, 06:59:47 pm
    great time  :happy2: Can you put your timing slip up, would like to see the times as you get up the strip and compare it to others.

    Your time slots you right in front of SunglassesRon, but his has a 4.2mph higher terminals which is quite a lot so im assuming you got an awesome launch.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Alex007 on May 08, 2013, 08:37:18 pm
    janner_sy i'll post the slip up when I get a chance, my 0- 60ft was 2.1. my terminal speed is normally 112-113mph there was a 13mph head wind on Saturday when I got the times, that wasn't helping. Im returning to santa pod on the 18th may, with the right conditions im hoping for a low 12.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 08, 2013, 11:23:17 pm
    Nice one Alex  :congrats: Great to see another Eddie is the 12's  :jumpmove: :jumpmove:

    As Sy says, would be good to see a full list of mods to your car including what you have taken out the car etc. By the looks of things you have a fair few added extras on yours over mine that would help with a good start (uprated suspension parts, lighter etc) and that's a cracking 60ft time for road tyres (what rubber?)..
    I always felt that I could of squeezed another 1/10th out of mine with the perfect run tbh, but it was as basic a Stage 2+ car as possible (stock car with exhaust, intake, HPFP, software and TD 1.2s) so at it's limit or very very close. With your extra bits and a bit of determination, I can easily see a 12.5 coming very soon :happy2: :drinking:

    Oh and 5/1000th's of a second has put you above me on time.. You B@%*ARD!!!  :fighting: :grin:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on May 09, 2013, 01:04:01 am
    I need to get my 12.3 pass up sharpish to put clear space between me and the FWD motors :happy2:

    And then get back to drop an 11.XXXX time :jumping:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Shorty on May 09, 2013, 07:59:59 am
    Nice one Alex  :congrats: Great to see another Eddie is the 12's  :jumpmove: :jumpmove:

    As Sy says, would be good to see a full list of mods to your car including what you have taken out the car etc. By the looks of things you have a fair few added extras on yours over mine that would help with a good start (uprated suspension parts, lighter etc) and that's a cracking 60ft time for road tyres (what rubber?)..
    I always felt that I could of squeezed another 1/10th out of mine with the perfect run tbh, but it was as basic a Stage 2+ car as possible (stock car with exhaust, intake, HPFP, software and TD 1.2s) so at it's limit or very very close. With your extra bits and a bit of determination, I can easily see a 12.5 coming very soon :happy2: :drinking:

    Oh and 5/1000th's of a second has put you above me on time.. You B@%*ARD!!!  :fighting: :grin:

    I'm pretty sure Alex's car is just on a set of springs and no other suspension mods. He's on AD08's too I think, he will clear this up though.

    Proper impressive time I think, I'm hoping to get to Pod soon and hopefully crack a 12!
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Janner_Sy on May 09, 2013, 09:18:14 am
    I need to get my 12.3 pass up sharpish to put clear space between me and the FWD motors :happy2:

    And then get back to drop an 11.XXXX time :jumping:

    Who is taking over that leaderboard thread now?

    The APR R Stage 3 11.## sec time needs adding to it as well.

    He's on AD08's too I think, he will clear this up though.

    Id have classed a semi slick as a track tyre even if they are road legal personally.

    Maybe worth a tweak on the leaderboard to state the actual tyres used.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 09, 2013, 09:48:25 am
    I need to get my 12.3 pass up sharpish to put clear space between me and the FWD motors :happy2:

    And then get back to drop an 11.XXXX time :jumping:

    Who is taking over that leaderboard thread now?

    The APR R Stage 3 11.## sec time needs adding to it as well.

    He's on AD08's too I think, he will clear this up though.

    Id have classed a semi slick as a track tyre even if they are road legal personally.

    Maybe worth a tweak on the leaderboard to state the actual tyres used.


    Have to agree with Sy on this one. If the car is running these, 888's, R1R's or similar, then it should be classed as a track tyre. Nothing at all wrong with using them, it's just when adding a performance enhancing mod, it should be listed. Slicks should be down as slicks.

    Not taking anything away from Alex's time at all, I'm chuffed to bits for him and hope he goes quicker. I just think there needs to be some clarity for people who want to make comparisons between different cars/mods/tyres etc.
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Janner_Sy on May 09, 2013, 01:05:19 pm
    Thats what I mean, A high performance road Pilot Sport 2 or Eagle F1 is great but it hasnt got sh!t on a road legal semi slick like R888/R1R/ADO8 for grip etc
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Keith@APR on May 09, 2013, 04:54:21 pm
    Here is my Stage III time slip:  (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-prn1%2F56563_396424447093418_718698544_o.jpg&hash=b738ff303a857803b1bd722df6c9366f32506a05)

    Same car listing as before but the turbo is now a GTX2867 and I was on 97 octane that day.  Michelin PS3 road tyres.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Janner_Sy on May 09, 2013, 09:01:59 pm
    Same car listing as before but the turbo is now a GTX2867 and I was on 97 octane that day.  Michelin PS3 road tyres.

    Thanks!

    I'm a little bored and geeking it up tonight, thats an average of 11.89 @116.22mph!! God Bless DSG and haldex!!!.  Love this car and its consistency/ability to use the power all the time, and once all the graphics are gone its  :drool:  :grin:.  Has car has had more done to it since that day or was that the latest spec/power?

    How long till we see a stage 3+ or stage 4 R DSG running up the strip  :party: Wander what sort of time we would be looking at from a stage 4 which i presume is well into the 500Hp region?  Low 11s maybe, or are we into the 10s!¬!
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on May 10, 2013, 09:57:27 am
    There's already a golf R in the 10's :happy2:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on July 05, 2013, 03:59:12 pm
    I hope there will be some more times for the 1/4 mile leaderboard after Inters. :happy2:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: RENNTAG on July 05, 2013, 06:05:10 pm
    I hope so, need to get to the top of the KO3 dsg cars  :laugh:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: gobbleplease on July 06, 2013, 05:15:05 pm
    Ok guys ill update the board the next time I'm on the lap top
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: kiddfrost on September 01, 2013, 02:17:52 pm
    Here’s my 1st attempt at a ¼ mile. Only managed to do 2 runs.
    Spec is 5 door DSG Revo stage2+ ed30 on Michelin ps3’s


    (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi207.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb110%2Fkidddfrost%2Fpod_zps0d9688de.jpg&hash=43f0f342f04c625099d2fe8787e0d4b1798f49c2)
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Sunglasses Ron on September 03, 2013, 09:03:59 am
    Here’s my 1st attempt at a ¼ mile. Only managed to do 2 runs.
    Spec is 5 door DSG Revo stage2+ ed30 on Michelin ps3’s


    (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi207.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb110%2Fkidddfrost%2Fpod_zps0d9688de.jpg&hash=43f0f342f04c625099d2fe8787e0d4b1798f49c2)

    Some decent terminal speeds there mate  :happy2: With those 60ft times there is definitely some potential there for 12's.. If you can get them down to a 2.2, you will see a 12.7-12.8 no probs..  :smiley:

    Is this with WMI?
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: kiddfrost on September 04, 2013, 12:03:04 am
    Thanks. Yeah that’s with WMI. Didn’t realise the 60ft time made such a difference to the overall time. I wasn't convinced getting into the 12's was possible but now you've said that  I’ll have to get myself down there again pretty soon to see if I can..  :smiley:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Sunglasses Ron on September 06, 2013, 09:51:47 am
    Thanks. Yeah that’s with WMI. Didn’t realise the 60ft time made such a difference to the overall time. I wasn't convinced getting into the 12's was possible but now you've said that  I’ll have to get myself down there again pretty soon to see if I can..  :smiley:

    I managed to run a fair few 12 sec runs in mine (12.7 best) and that was basic stage 2+ spec (no WMI), on standard Michelin PS2's and in full road trim. With your spec you will piss them with a bit more practise, trust me..  :happy2:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: kiddfrost on September 28, 2013, 05:40:48 pm
    I managed to run a fair few 12 sec runs in mine (12.7 best) and that was basic stage 2+ spec (no WMI), on standard Michelin PS2's and in full road trim. With your spec you will piss them with a bit more practise, trust me..  :happy2:

    You were right :happy2:  there was definitely more in the old girl. I’m happy with the times it being a full fat 5 door with sunroof.
    Do you think there’s room for more?

    The fast one was a tuned up Nissan GTR..


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    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Hurdy on January 25, 2014, 01:54:33 pm
    Good time. Just shows how important the 60' time is to a good ET.  :happy2:
    Title: Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
    Post by: Adrian on July 31, 2018, 03:48:42 pm
    Shame this thread isnt alive anymore  :sad1: