MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: pjuster on January 07, 2015, 08:57:48 am

Title: rear central locking (safe) motor error on a 5dr GTI
Post by: pjuster on January 07, 2015, 08:57:48 am
Hi all,

My vag com is showing

Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K    HW: 1K0 959 704 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1207 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 1012552
   VCID: 3979CB6F70AC49D693D-806C

1 Fault Found:
00099 - Rear Right Central Locking (Safe) Motor (V164)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

yet when I ebay search for 1K0 959 704 K its coming up with
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK5-SKODA-OCTAVIA-RIGHT-DRIVER-SIDE-REAR-DOOR-WINDOW-MOTOR-1K0959704K-/321568619114?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4adefbba6a (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK5-SKODA-OCTAVIA-RIGHT-DRIVER-SIDE-REAR-DOOR-WINDOW-MOTOR-1K0959704K-/321568619114?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4adefbba6a)

which seems to be a different part too
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,52585.0.html  (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,52585.0.html)
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Matt.H/media/Door%20Module%20Replacement/IMG_5354.jpg.html (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Matt.H/media/Door%20Module%20Replacement/IMG_5354.jpg.html)
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Matt.H/media/Door%20Module%20Replacement/IMG_5357.jpg.html (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Matt.H/media/Door%20Module%20Replacement/IMG_5357.jpg.html)
this part seems to match more whats on http://www.my-gti.com/wp-content/uploads/volkswagen_golf_jetta_mirror_removal_14.jpg (http://www.my-gti.com/wp-content/uploads/volkswagen_golf_jetta_mirror_removal_14.jpg)

So I'm confused on which part I need to replace.....

I should say that the rear door lock does stick from time to time and if I clear this fault code it comes back once I lock and unlock the car.  I have not issues with the window motor or function that seems fine.

I should add my GTI is a 57Reg if that makes any difference.

TIA
Paul
Title: Re: rear central locking (safe) motor error on a 5dr GTI
Post by: SI-R32 on January 07, 2015, 10:14:15 am
The window motor/module is what controls the rear door lock thats what the fault code is stored in (black box attached to motor) you need a new/2nd hand rear door lock which you have to take the outer door skin off to replace

the safe motor is the dead lock motor/solenoid on its way out, thats whats throwing up the fault
Title: Re: rear central locking (safe) motor error on a 5dr GTI
Post by: pjuster on January 07, 2015, 10:18:14 am
ok thanks that makes some sense and might be a slightly easier replacement (than messing with the glass/winding mechanisim)

How do I know which part number is correct for a new/2nd hand rear door lock, as thats not listed on the vag com (sorry being a newbie)

This looks correct, but just a bit nervous of buying something based on them telling me it will fit !
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221463070036?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l5999&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI221463070036.N36.S2.R1.TR5 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221463070036?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l5999&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI221463070036.N36.S2.R1.TR5)

thanks again

Paul
Title: Re: rear central locking (safe) motor error on a 5dr GTI
Post by: SI-R32 on January 07, 2015, 10:32:43 am
your ebay link is the correct part number mate, all looks good to me, before someone says its from china and may be cheap, VW are in partnership with FAW in china making VW's out there so a lot of these parts are from them

i'd defo buy it 30 quid for new one fyi 146 ish quid from VW over here
Title: Re: rear central locking (safe) motor error on a 5dr GTI
Post by: pjuster on January 07, 2015, 10:41:01 am
brilliant, thanks for the speedy response and from what you'vwe said before its quite "dumb" and won't need coding.

Thanks

Paul
Title: Re: rear central locking (safe) motor error on a 5dr GTI
Post by: SI-R32 on January 07, 2015, 10:43:12 am
no coding needed although you may want to cancel the fault code so if it goes in for service they don't think there is still a fault, other than that all good
Title: Re: rear central locking (safe) motor error on a 5dr GTI
Post by: doylebros on January 07, 2015, 07:27:37 pm
This is worth a read

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,52585.0.html

I've fitted both OEM and EBay both worked and side by side looked identical to me!