MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: bowie on November 21, 2009, 07:21:40 pm
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Hi all, feel a bit of a fool writing this but I'm feeling a little let down by the bass response from my RNS510. I will give you a little backround before you all castigate me ! Back in April I sold my 06 5dr GTI with an RCD300 . Now, I was happy with the sound and the bass although I did have the bass / treble set quite high (I listen to a lot of dance/ electronic music along the lines of Simian Mobile Disco etc. ).
I have just bought an 08 3dr Ed30 with the RNS510 but ,no matter which combination of bass/mid/treble, I feel I can't replicate the sound of my previous GTI. None of the cars had the soundpack btw.
Am I missing something out here ? I thought it may be the 5dr was better because the speakers were housed in a smaller door hence less air volume around them.
Anyone else made the change and feel the same as me ?
Chris.
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Was the RNS factory fitted in your ED30?
Reason I ask is because it could be incorrectly coded if not as I have found the sound of my RNS510 in my ED30 far far better than the RCD300 in my old 05 plate GTI :smiley:
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Early GTIs came with a 10 speaker sound system (three in each of the front doors). Maybe your 06 plate car had that?
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RNS was factory fitted. Yes , my 06 had 10 speakers ( 3 in ea front door and 2 in ea rear) but ,as far as I can see , the ed30 is the same.
It has got a Bury bluetooth kit which comes through the factory speakers. I am assuming there is an in-line adapter which links in to the speaker plug on the RNS ? I can't imagine this making a difference though.
Chris.
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they started cost cutting 06 onwards so maybe cheaper speakers? not 3 in each door? maybe you remember it being better than it actually was?(long shot)
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^^^ Factory fitted RNS510's will also have 10 speakers (mine 08 ED30 does) :happy2:
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What is the standard speaker setup for the Ed30? Is it still ten?
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Depends, RCD300 = 8 / RCD500 = 10 IIRC :happy2:
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Does the speaker on top of the centre console prove you have 8 or 10 speakers?
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^^^ Thats an air vent not a speaker :happy2:
It's three speakers rather than two in each of the front door that's the difference between the 8 and 10 speakers setups.
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Lol, ahhh right. The wife's Match doesnt have it so I assumed it was a speaker!
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Hi all, thanks for the comments. I had a chance today to listen to a colleagues 3dr GTI ( 2005 ) with the RCD300 and no soundpack. Has the 10 speaker system and sounded a lot bassier than mine. Sounds as if you have a small sub in there ! For continuity I have been using two CDs . Immaculate collection - Madonna and Daft Punk - Discovery. The punch and bassline on Holiday was way way better on the RCD300 and so was DPs Voyager.
This is pointing towards a speaker issue I think. Is there any way of checking connections and performance with Vag-com ?
Chris.
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I noticed the same thing.
Had the rcd in my gt sport, and a factory fitted rns510 in my pirelli.
RNS doesn't come close in a bass sense.
There are some hidden menus you can check out depending on which firmware you are running.
iirc, this worked for me, but didn't help with my sound in the end:
http://www.my-gti.com/1078/entering-setup-on-the-rns-510-with-recent-firmware
to me it feels like the 'loud' button you find on other stereos has been turned off.
I believe a factory fitted rns means you dont get the amp under the passenger seat that you do get in a standard gti (at least that is the case here in oz). Check under your passenger seat, then your mate's.
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This is exactly the problem. Glad I'm not the only one ! Neither mine or my mates have the soundpack amp. Maybe I need it then !! Gonna try and get to listen to another RNS510 to compare like for like. Someone in another thread on here mentioned that if the headunit is coded for the soundpack then the speaker outputs will be different than if it were just the 10 speaker system.
Chris.
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I've just swapped my RCD300 to a RNS510 and thought the sound quality much better.
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I'm finding that , even with the bass all the way up, I can't get anywhere near the bass with the RCD300. It just doesn't reproduce the lower frequencies.
Anyone in the South Wales area got an RNS510 I could compare with ?
Chris.
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997GT3 do you have 10 speakers?
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Can I just say, I can't remember seeing a GTI that didn't have 10 speakers .
Chris.
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997GT3 do you have 10 speakers?
Lyons - sorry i dont know. What i do know is that i'll have the standard Ed30 set up. I seem to have two speaker grills in each of the front doors. The one towards the back appears nearly twice the size of the other so maybe two speakers behind there?
Not my area of expertise i'm afraid. :ashamed:
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997GT3 do you have 10 speakers?
Lyons - sorry i dont know. What i do know is that i'll have the standard Ed30 set up. I seem to have two speaker grills in each of the front doors. The one towards the back appears nearly twice the size of the other so maybe two speakers behind there?
Not my area of expertise i'm afraid. :ashamed:
You'll probably have a mid bass at the bottom rear of the door, a mid by your window switches and a tweeter in the mirror triangle ?
Chris.
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^^^ ED30's with the standard RCD300 had 8 speakers out of the factory IIRC :happy2:
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did the old car have amp installed ?
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Can I just say, I can't remember seeing a GTI that didn't have 10 speakers .
Chris.
I test drove two that didnt.
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It does sound like the Loud button is not activated which can only be done by adapting line 50 on the navigation through VCDS, also if you go to this thread ive put a the screen shots for the RNS510.
[urlhttp://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9350.15[/url]
Darren
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Ok, taken me a while , but I went in to set up and low and behold ......the loudness was on !! Now I'm really disappointed ! Should I try changing the outputs ( soundpack , etc) or would this just lower it even further ? Or do I just get an amp and small sub ?
Chris.
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Could it just simply be that some of the ones bought second hand are set up for the soundpack, and thats why some are spot on (like 997GT3's) and some arent?
Or is there more to it?
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Mine is factory fit and checked the coding and its set up for no soundsystem.
Chris.
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Where did you get the RNS?