MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: Deako on January 14, 2015, 02:32:50 am
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Hi all, does anyone know if the Mk7 R brake setup (calipers and specifically disc offsets) is a direct bolt on to the Scirocco? Thanks.
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Speak to Alex
@vRSAlex (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1981)
He recently put a TTRS/DB9 set up on a Mk7 R .
Scirocco is same as a Golf Mk5/Mk6 brake wise so if it fits a Golf 5/6 then it would fit the Rocco.
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With the abundance and cheapness of the R32/S3 stuff it would be silly to overlook that first.
Anyone got information on the mk7 R piston size?
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Basically, a full setup of R brakes would cost less than me buying TTRS/RS3 calipers, getting them refurbished with R logos, then buying TTRS discs, HEL lines, and refurbishing my rear calipers in black also.
The S3/R32 stuff will likely need refurbishing too.
If I could get a complete R setup for £700-800 would cost me less all around.
Did Alex retain the R kit as stock or did the owner keep them to put back on? :)
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Always thought the mk7 r brakes were same as anything else...345mm single.
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No reason they wont fit and work fine.
I don't have any info on the R master cylinder size, but pedal travel on the 6 pots I fitted was minimal.
The discs are 340x30mm. Not the same as the TTS discs though.
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Always thought the mk7 r brakes were same as anything else...345mm single.
They are. But seem to be a few full sets around. Just saves me hassle.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vw-Golf-R32-V6-front-brake-calipers-05-08-mk5-A3-Cupra-R-TT-K1-/301485473108?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4631ef3d54
Plus 150 for discs and pads and 20 for hoses maybe.
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Yeah. Saw those. Too expensive for what I'd want to do with them.
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you can buy porsche 4 pots for not far off that rich. :chicken:
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you can buy porsche 4 pots for not far off that rich. :chicken:
Fully refurbished?
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That's the problem. Factor in refurbishing, all parts needed and getting rears to match. I could have just gone with an R setup for an OEM look. :happy2:
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Just thought that the rear calipers on the Mk7 R have electric handbrake mechanism. Doh!!
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Just thought that the rear calipers on the Mk7 R have electric handbrake mechanism. Doh!!
Yeah... thats not gonna work out. Shame, theres a full set on ebay (im sure youve seen)
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Yep. There was another set that went for £750 too.
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you can buy porsche 4 pots for not far off that rich. :chicken:
Fully refurbished?
Bit of paint and a seal kit, not that much.
Seal kit probably about £40 and powdercoating will be about 20 quid per caliper.
I just don't understand why you'd buy a set of not that good brakes for £350 + carriers + discs + pads when you can buy working, visually OK Porsche calipers which work infinitely better for £250 + carriers + discs + pads...
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,91113.0.html
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No one in their right mind would referb and powdercoat for those prices. Decent job you are looking at ~100 each.
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Yep. If you want a proper job done by brake caliper refurbs then you are looking at a decent chunk.
Thinking of the original plan now. Ttrs/rs3 calipers. Just undecided on custom brackets to run TTS 340m discs, or chance it on the TTRS 370m discs. Which are damn expensive.
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I'd go down the 370mm route unless you plan to keep the car long term, thus taking advantage of cheaper 340mm consumables.
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I am going or TTRS calipers and 370mm discs, when time come to change the discs I will look for brackets to fit a smaller disc... But until that... :driver:
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No one in their right mind would referb and powdercoat for those prices. Decent job you are looking at ~100 each.
Rebuild the calipers at home, off the car it's easy.
If you're paying for someone else to do it, then a good chunk of the money is time.......which is fine, but if you can do it yourself, why not?
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No one in their right mind would referb and powdercoat for those prices. Decent job you are looking at ~100 each.
Rebuild the calipers at home, off the car it's easy.
If you're paying for someone else to do it, then a good chunk of the money is time.......which is fine, but if you can do it yourself, why not?
Show me?? Buy some old Calipers and refurb them..... Bet you won't want to do another set.
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I rebuilt calipers on my old motorcycle.. 4 pot R1 calipers.. rebuild kit cost me £18 and two evenings...
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I rebuilt calipers on my old motorcycle.. 4 pot R1 calipers.. rebuild kit cost me £18 and two evenings...
Good for you.....
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I rebuilt calipers on my old motorcycle.. 4 pot R1 calipers.. rebuild kit cost me £18 and two evenings...
Good for you.....
:signLOL:
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Going to say this is caps to put the point across:
DO NOT POWDERCOAT BRAKE CALIPERS.
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I rebuilt calipers on my old motorcycle.. 4 pot R1 calipers.. rebuild kit cost me £18 and two evenings...
Good for you.....
:signLOL:
:rolleye:
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Now now ladies. :grin:
Probably cheaper in the interim to go TTRS calipers, HEL lines and EBC TTRS discs. I'll be getting TTRS calipers custom painted though and rears done to match. Eventually.
Just a small matter of house sale and divorce to sort out. :signLOL:
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Probably the best bang for your buck in that respect.
To keep initial costs down at least you could stick with the 370mm discs and get the carriers/discs for the 340mm when you inevitably warp the standards.
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Aftermarket discs prone to warp as well as the oems?
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Aftermarket discs prone to warp as well as the oems?
You'll not warp them unless you are hammering it around a track.
IIRC the 340mm fitting kit (brackets and hoses) are 250
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Now now ladies. :grin:
Probably cheaper in the interim to go TTRS calipers, HEL lines and EBC TTRS discs. I'll be getting TTRS calipers custom painted though and rears done to match. Eventually.
Just a small matter of house sale and divorce to sort out. :signLOL:
No one apart from Audi makes the 370mm discs.
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Ok. So I have bit the bullet on the TTRS calipers. Just need to decide to go for OEM discs (which will warp eventually) or the VAGBremTechnic 345mm conversion kit.
£250 + discs (anything from £80 to £150) + pads
Or
£550 + pads
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Go for the 340mm tts discs.
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The discs are 340x30mm. Not the same as the TTS discs though.
Bugger, that means those cheap Brembos I bought last year aren't any good as spares then? :sad1:
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Anyone purchased from Dave Baird (gbautomotive) on eBay before?
He is doing me a set of TTRS calipers in black with the R logo, refurbished for a really good price.
I could have got a set for £350 then paid refurb costs, but these are £400 all in. Which is a relative bargain imo. Without consumables of course though.
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Can anyone tell me if the revised Audi TTRS discs are less likely to warp?
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Can anyone tell me if the revised Audi TTRS discs are less likely to warp?
They never revised them. Still sh*te.
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Looks like I'll be getting one of Daves kits from you then. :grin:
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Like I said before. Depends how long your gonna keep the car.
Long term then the 340 mm kit will be best as you'll save on discs.
Short term then 370 will be fine. Chances of warping them on the road is low. Justin uses them in his 400 Odd bhp S3
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Like I said before. Depends how long your gonna keep the car.
Long term then the 340 mm kit will be best as you'll save on discs.
Short term then 370 will be fine. Chances of warping them on the road is low. Justin uses them in his 400 Odd bhp S3
Just never brakes.
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:signLOL:
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340s are going to be cheaper even with the initial investment in the VAGBremTechnic kit.
£250 + mtec discs + suitable pads.
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Well. Looks like I'll be raising an eBay dispute and trying for a refund as the refurb job on the calipers is distinctly average and very much DIY looking.
Powder coat too thick, causing seals to not sit flush, didn't bung the brake line input so fluid has leaked out and ruined the coating, the decals look like they have had 1 thin layer of cheap Halfords rattle can laquer sprayed over them.
I could either get a full refund or send them somewhere proper for a refurb, but the calipers already owe me £400. f*ck sake!!!
And I kerbed a wheel a couple of days ago. FML.
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Piss flaps! :sad1:
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He is refunding them. Off they go tomorrow back to him. I have stuck photos on FB.