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Title: Magnet help
Post by: TAPPY on January 16, 2015, 03:12:19 pm
Afternoon guys. I want to smooth my front grill and wanted to be able to put my number plate back on with magnets if I get pulled. I'm just unsure as to what magnets to go for as there is so many different weights ( how much it will take to pull apart). Any help appreciated  :smiley:
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: andybon on January 16, 2015, 03:52:37 pm
Personally I'd go for the strongest you can lay your hands on!
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: TAPPY on January 16, 2015, 04:07:04 pm
Personally I'd go for the strongest you can lay your hands on!

The strongest I found was 25kg and thought that might be a bit much lol
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: Shaunygti on January 16, 2015, 05:58:46 pm
Just got some meself to do my plate
E magnet uk loads to choose from I got 3.5 kg magnets x10 very strong indeed and brought some adhesive to stick them aswell  :happy2:
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: TAPPY on January 16, 2015, 06:01:06 pm
Just got some meself to do my plate
E magnet uk loads to choose from I got 3.5 kg magnets x10 very strong indeed and brought some adhesive to stick them aswell  :happy2:

Sweet I will have a look. Let me know how you get on with the 3.5kg please buddy
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: Shaunygti on January 16, 2015, 06:04:54 pm
No problem.yeh will do wen I get round to it lol.
Think 3.5kg will be idea as they are very very difficult to separate.  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: TAPPY on January 16, 2015, 06:26:24 pm
Yer the only thing I'm thinking is what happens when you have plastic in between the magnets, like how much strength do they loose? 
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: Shaunygti on January 20, 2015, 01:03:44 pm
Fitted the 10 magnets on and would say lost a little force.
5 each side and holds ok but I probably buy a few more to be safe
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: TAPPY on January 20, 2015, 01:26:16 pm
Fitted the 10 magnets on and would say lost a little force.
5 each side and holds ok but I probably buy a few more to be safe

Thanks for the heads up buddy
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: lukemk5gti on January 20, 2015, 02:18:42 pm
I did it with rectangular neodymium magents from eBay. Only cost a few pound and are the strongest natural magnet you can buy I believe.

Used maybe 10 and it held just fine. Think I might actually have the how to and pics in my build thread
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: TAPPY on January 20, 2015, 02:24:36 pm
I did it with rectangular neodymium magents from eBay. Only cost a few pound and are the strongest natural magnet you can buy I believe.

Used maybe 10 and it held just fine. Think I might actually have the how to and pics in my build thread
I will have a look through your build thread later as its easier at home lol
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: MC71 on January 20, 2015, 02:36:59 pm
Use either N35 Neodymium magnets (from eBay, linky below to the ones I've got) or Double Sided Suction cups (eBay too, linky below to the ones I bought). I have an American smoothed grill and have both types, suction ones on the car and a magnet plate in the boot in case the other one goes AWOL.

You'll get a wee bit of scratching on the grill after time, no way around that with trapped dirt and other road detritus but nothing that can't be polished out.

Magnets....

~~ Clicky here ~~ (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lots-Super-strong-Disc-Magnets-20mm-x-5mm-Rare-Earth-Neodymium-N35-Craft-Models-/151438032755?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item234268ff73)

Suction cups...

~~ Clicky here ~~ (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-PACK-DOUBLE-SIDED-WINDOW-SUCTION-CUPS-SUCKERS-30-mm-/180667364773?pt=UK_Home_HomeDecor_Accessories&hash=item2a109d35a5)

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: lukemk5gti on January 20, 2015, 02:45:44 pm
I did it with rectangular neodymium magents from eBay. Only cost a few pound and are the strongest natural magnet you can buy I believe.

Used maybe 10 and it held just fine. Think I might actually have the how to and pics in my build thread
I will have a look through your build thread later as its easier at home lol
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,89715.msg907250.html#msg907250
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: ed30Lewis on January 20, 2015, 02:51:49 pm
Use either N35 Neodymium magnets (from eBay, linky below to the ones I've got) or Double Sided Suction cups (eBay too, linky below to the ones I bought). I have an American smoothed grill and have both types, suction ones on the car and a magnet plate in the boot in case the other one goes AWOL.

You'll get a wee bit of scratching on the grill after time, no way around that with trapped dirt and other road detritus but nothing that can't be polished out.

Magnets....

~~ Clicky here ~~ (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lots-Super-strong-Disc-Magnets-20mm-x-5mm-Rare-Earth-Neodymium-N35-Craft-Models-/151438032755?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item234268ff73)

Suction cups...

~~ Clicky here ~~ (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-PACK-DOUBLE-SIDED-WINDOW-SUCTION-CUPS-SUCKERS-30-mm-/180667364773?pt=UK_Home_HomeDecor_Accessories&hash=item2a109d35a5)

 :happy2:

@MC71 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4913) Do the suction cups make the front plate stick out a little bit so that it doesnt sit flush with the grill?

Im looking at getting something quick and easy to swap plates over on my car and they seem like a great idea! But wouldnt be too keen if the plate doesnt sit flush with the grill/bodywork...
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: MC71 on January 20, 2015, 03:55:32 pm
^^^^
The magnet plate is quicker to put on and it's finds its own place to attach due to magnets on rear of grill. Hold the plate near the grill and its on!!

Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: th3_f15t on January 20, 2015, 05:17:33 pm
I use similar magnets to those that MC71 linked too, think I use 12 in total (6 paired up) and it's held on perfectly well. Everyone who does this mod is scared that they won't be strong enough, but think how much a numberplate weighs... A few kg of force is more than enough to hold something less than half a kg in place securely. I did a shake test when doing the mod and you'd have to apply some serious force (i.e. a crash or considerable amount of air time) before it falls off.
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: jason_rmh on January 20, 2015, 05:25:16 pm
+1 even when backed with foam, 6 magnets each side are plenty strong enough.
The plate 'snaps' into position as the magnets are that strong.
Mine has been on for over a year now.
Its a great mod.
Jas
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: ed30Lewis on January 21, 2015, 01:34:44 pm
Thanks for the pics above! ^^

Didnt think it would sit flush!

I currently have the UK Spec front grill - Do you think the magnets will be strong enough to hold it through the number plate holder that it has?
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: jason_rmh on January 21, 2015, 01:37:56 pm
Number plate holder is normally removed unless you mount magnets behind the holder?
The magnet mod is normally done in conjunction with a smooth / us grill.
Jas
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: xjay1337 on January 21, 2015, 02:39:14 pm
Done it with magents. Scratched the hell out of my front grill.
took plate off. problem solved.
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: ed30Lewis on January 21, 2015, 03:07:56 pm
Number plate holder is normally removed unless you mount magnets behind the holder?
The magnet mod is normally done in conjunction with a smooth / us grill.
Jas

Thanks for your help! :happy2:
Im getting the US Spec front grill at some point in the near future. Just wanted something quick and easy for the time being. Will give it a go :smiley:
Title: Re: Magnet help
Post by: jason_rmh on January 21, 2015, 05:41:59 pm
Done it with magents. Scratched the hell out of my front grill.
took plate off. problem solved.
Did you cover the magnets with some thin foam backing?
Jas