MK5 Golf GTI
General => Shows, Events and Meets => Old Event Details => Topic started by: Phil Mcavity on December 15, 2008, 11:01:26 am
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We seem to be having abit of a gathering next tuesday at jkm portsmouth, Cars on the ramps for Rolling roads will be Redrobins GTi, WHITEGTI's GTi, and now Cocopops ed30, and mine to have its Miltek fitted whilst theirs are on the rollers.
Should be a busy morning. :smiley:
Anyone thats local and wanna pop in and say hi, we shall be there from 10am to around 12 noon. :wink:
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:smiley: :smiley:
What was once just a quick rolling road for me has turned into a little meet!
I shall try to be there by about 10:45, so that I can see Robin's car on the rollers, and then prepare for mine to go on there for 11:30!
Would love to make it there earlier, but have a friend that is travelling from Bristol earlier that morning as he wants to come with me! So have to wait for him :smiley: :smiley:
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I'll be there at 10 I reckon :)
Is there somewhere to get breakfast? Bacon Butty and a Cuppa? :D
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I might make an appearance with WhiteGTI, purely for bant and since I will have nothing else to do!
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Happy days, there are Mcdonalds/burger king round the road lee, also a VERY GOOD sandwhich man in a van that comes round mid morning. No shortage of grub, kate at jkm im sure may lay on the tea n coffee usual and maybe if she reads this .....Some Bourbans would be nice!! :wink:.
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Aaarrgghh! I'm working until evening of 24th so won't be able to make it, otherwise I'd have had a rematch with Phyllis!
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Aaarrgghh! I'm working until evening of 24th so won't be able to make it, otherwise I'd have had a rematch with Phyllis!
:laugh: :driver:
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Steve, is the plan for your car going to be...
Xmas 08 = Cat-back Milltek
Birthday 09 = Milltek DP, Sports cat
Xmas 09 = Reeeeeeeeeeemmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapppp!!!! :evilgrin:
I do hope so.. :wink:
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Steve, is the plan for your car going to be...
Xmas 08 = Cat-back Milltek
Birthday 09 = Milltek DP, Sports cat
Xmas 09 = Reeeeeeeeeeemmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapppp!!!! :evilgrin:
:signLOL:
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Steve, is the plan for your car going to be...
Xmas 08 = Cat-back Milltek
Birthday 09 = Milltek DP, Sports cat
Xmas 09 = Reeeeeeeeeeemmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapppp!!!! :evilgrin:
I do hope so.. :wink:
Xmas 09 ill be in a different car by then i expect :smiley:. No remap untill my insurance runs out next sept.
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Steve, is the plan for your car going to be...
Xmas 08 = Cat-back Milltek
Birthday 09 = Milltek DP, Sports cat
Xmas 09 = Reeeeeeeeeeemmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapppp!!!! :evilgrin:
I do hope so.. :wink:
Xmas 09 ill be in a different car by then i expect :smiley:. No remap untill my insurance runs out next sept.
So what is on the cards mate, motor wise? Did you ever find out how much more the insurance was going to be with a remap?
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My insurance was exactly £15 a year more if i went with Greenlight, but i stayed with swiftcover because im not remapping and couldnt see the point to change companys when both prices were the pretty much the same.Swiftcover will cover my exhaust because its not in their eyes improving the bhp that the Manufactures state. Only if i added a downpipe it would invalidate my policy with swiftcover. My year policy total is or was £470 (all payed for) £485 if i had remap declared with greenlight. Each extra mod would be charged at an extra £25 admin fee.
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£40 extra for a remap.. And you're still not tempted...????? You must have serious will power my friend.. :happy2:
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Im more interested in having something that looks good, but sounds great, im a looks modder then a go faster modder if you get me?.
And yes i have strong will power.......................its called the wife :wink:
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Steve, how come's the name of this thread changed :confused:
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Jkm were worried that we may all assend on them on the 23rd!!!!!!!!!!!, we are soo popular, that all in sundry would show up lol
So kate asked to keep my lips closed alittle :smiley:
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Ahhh I see, cheers Steve :happy2: :santa:
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Jkm were worried that we may all assend on them on the 23rd!!!!!!!!!!!, we are soo popular, that all in sundry would show up lol
So kate asked to keep my lips closed alittle :smiley:
Too late.. I'll be there - in my (wife's) new R32 :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: I need to pick my exhaust and ARBs from them anyway. Hmm wondering whether they will fit in the R32 as the Recaros might not go back... May have to bring the Ed30 :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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I've had a std exhaust in the S3 pal, so should fit if broken down into its component parts, just take lots of padding, cardboard etc to pack it in and stop it rubbing against your nice trim
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Jkm were worried that we may all assend on them on the 23rd!!!!!!!!!!!, we are soo popular, that all in sundry would show up lol
So kate asked to keep my lips closed alittle :smiley:
Too late.. I'll be there - in my (wife's) new R32 :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: I need to pick my exhaust and ARBs from them anyway. Hmm wondering whether they will fit in the R32 as the Recaros might not go back... May have to bring the Ed30 :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Good times!!, look foward to seeing you then. Fun starts from 10 am lol. Sorry Kate, he forced me to :laugh:
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Well I hope Kate doesn't blame me for this :grin: :grin: :grin: considering I was the one that kind of started it all!! :ashamed: :ashamed:
Im looking forward to putting faces to names for Coco Pops and Illyun! :smiley:
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Well I hope Kate doesn't blame me for this :grin: :grin: :grin: considering I was the one that kind of started it all!! :ashamed: :ashamed:
Im looking forward to putting faces to names for Coco Pops and Illyun! :smiley:
im soo gonna get it in the neck from kate! :ashamed:.
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Well I hope Kate doesn't blame me for this :grin: :grin: :grin: considering I was the one that kind of started it all!! :ashamed: :ashamed:
Im looking forward to putting faces to names for Coco Pops and Illyun! :smiley:
im soo gonna get it in the neck from kate! :ashamed:.
Its all good fun! :smiley: :smiley:
If my car gets less than 240hp, i am going to be annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoyed!!! Also, I have a sneaking suspicion that my torque curve is going to look like a bactrian camel's back!! :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Stage 2. id expect 250bhp.Yours doesnt have as many mods as vRStu's octy and that was in the 260's.
ill be interested to see what yours comes out with especially My stag Race coming up :wink:
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Well it looks like I'll have to bring the R32 as I crashed the Edition 30 into a kerb :sad: Damn, I'm getting REALLY tempted to Revo it and just realised that it won't even be run in when I bring it down! :signIWS: :signLOL:
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I'll try to slip down for a brew.
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Can't wait til Tuesday :D
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This is becoming a bad habit :sad: Sorry I couldn't make it but I travelled from Hook (south of Reading) to Durham via Newark last night to drop my wife's Lupo GTI off and pick up a pristine Mk2 16v GTI (73k on the clock). Drove the Mk2 back from Durham to Ipswich and arrived at 2am... would have had to get out of the house at 7am to get to Portsmouth for 10am and then had to be back to Ipswich by 2pm because the baby had a BCG vaccination appointment (which I didn't know about until yesterday :surprised:) . Basically it would have been Mission Impossible. Was really looking forward to coming down and meeting up. I'll now be at JKM tomorrow to pick up my exhaust and arbs. :ashamed: :ashamed: :ashamed:
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hope your enjoying the new MILLY phil!! :happy2:
im sure we are going to get a full review of how much quicker it makes it :P :grin:
Phil gets home....drags the wife outside in the cold to look at his new pipe :laugh: will she be :jumping: :jumping: or :confused: :indifferent:
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Sorry to post this here, but just so he sees it - illyun you have a PM.
Kind Regards
JKM
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yes, spot on joe, the wife wont be able to tell the difference,i phoned her and said id had it done and i got an enthusiastic reply just like she'd had a wisdom tooth out!........... get the idea :wink:
anyway milly is on along with yes im sorry joe another mod, could resist but ive had a green Cotton air filter supplied to have fitted, which stu (vRSTu) was a star and fitted it for after our little sprint back to his house afterwards.
Well, absolutley love it, sounds the buzziness, both air and exhaust makes her feel alot more crisp and responsive, MPG has increased with both additions, but ive only done a few miles but so far so good.
Your in trouble now joe come santa pod if you still have the black beauty by then. :wink:
We were looked after as always by kate and the gang at JKM.
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Full english down the cafe down the road in which Robin, myself and Stu went and had a feast.
Rolling road results were interesting, lee (Cocopops) is i expect on the blower to superchips right now complaining on his missing horsepower.
Chris (WHITEGTI) was sort of pleased with his but underead aswell as Redrobins
Robins hit 236.4bhp
chris (WHITEGTI) 245bhp
Lee (COCOPOPS) 270bhp
but although they were lower then what all had hoped all were more pleased with the smooth torque curves which didnt disapoint.
All in all a fun morning out .............. oh yeah and me with my new present :wink:
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Yep, I'm downloading a new map as I type...
Don't get me wrong, the 270bhp and a very flat torque curve is nice... but when someone says you can have 300... you want 300! :signLOL:
Will get the new map uploaded and then I'll have to arrange for another trip to JKM to get it tested for what it should be!
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good stuff phil, il still have the gti for the POD :happy2:
gutted about Robins figure!!!!!!!!! 236 after a new turbo, robin...were you not getting the same with a cracked turbo!!?? WTF??!! im sure you will have some kind of explanation!? :smiley:
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also phil.... did you not have a RR before and after? would be interesting to see if a cat back made a difference to torque or bhp, usually when i put a cat back on it feels quicker! but i think its the sound that makes it "feel" quicker :smiley:
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looking very 8) steve congrats on the new addition
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im sure ive made no more the about 4-5bhp and about a 10 Lb ft increase on torque, i will re run her on the rollers in january, but i expect no more then 240bhp being realistic. JKM said 1bhp for the filter and a few for the Zorst.
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i personally thought the filter would do more? :rolleye:
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im only going by what jkm have done with other cars with the filter being added on, although the car does feel alot more responsive, even the wife now has heard it and can see what i was pineing after all! :xmasrolleyes:
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Looking good Phil. Fills the gap in the valance nicely compared to Volkswagens puny effort :happy2: :jumpmove:
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gutted about Robins figure!!!!!!!!! 236 after a new turbo, robin...were you not getting the same with a cracked turbo!!??
Looking back at the previous RR results, RR got 230.5 bhp. Still appears quite off. :surprised:
Philly with the milly, how's it sound? Bet you gave it loads of welly on the M27. :wink:
And the pipes - is it me or do they not stick out as much as the stock ones?
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Here's my graph from today.
Will apply new map tomorrow and see how we get on.
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Here's my graph from today.
Will apply new map tomorrow and see how we get on.
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what map is this coco ?, do you have a manual
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Yep, I'm downloading a new map as I type...
Don't get me wrong, the 270bhp and a very flat torque curve is nice... but when someone says you can have 300... you want 300! :signLOL:
Will get the new map uploaded and then I'll have to arrange for another trip to JKM to get it tested for what it should be!
I had 278 bhp at JKM after the Revo Stage 1 remap
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Phil, the exhaust will change note after a few more miles - and sound even nicer. Looks lovely
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what map is this coco ?, do you have a manual
Yep Manual.
I was told when I got the map (in Oct) that it was stage2... but when I called up, the guy told me it was the "low power map"... So very confused! :confused:
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yeh im very confused by all these maps, they dont ever seem to tell you what they have done/ or are doing :mad:
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gutted about Robins figure!!!!!!!!! 236 after a new turbo, robin...were you not getting the same with a cracked turbo!!??
Looking back at the previous RR results, RR got 230.5 bhp. Still appears quite off. :surprised:
Philly with the milly, how's it sound? Bet you gave it loads of welly on the M27. :wink:
And the pipes - is it me or do they not stick out as much as the stock ones?
Sounds absolutley lovelly, soo smooth and a great deep burble, i will be doing a quick drive by video on a country road and the wife's gonna snap me driving past blipping the throttle so you can hear the difference for those who wanna hear the difference the milltek non res is like.
i gave chase today with vRStu down the 27 today, and kept up quite well ,although i had to hang on in a long sweeping left hander holding on for grime dealth whilst Stu was smirking :smiley:.Seriously ,if your thinking of getting a milltek, get the Non Res as its in no way anymore noisey in the cabin then on the stock pipes. They dont stick out as far and fit the tunnel spot on.The Green cotton air filter goes as a great addition giving the car better drive outa the hole feeling .For £34 , i couldnt refuse.
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Nice one Steve :happy2:
Start of a slippery slope? :santa:
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lol, erhh, fortunatly, my slopes thrawed out, snows melted away :wink:
What a diffence its made, chuffed is a minor discription, id be out driving now but ive drank 5 cans so far of caffreys so keys are staying on the hook :drinking:.
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lol, erhh, fortunatly, my slopes thrawed out, snows melted away :wink:
What a diffence its made, chuffed is a minor discription, id be out driving now but ive drank 5 cans so far of caffreys so keys are staying on the hook :drinking:.
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You want to have a Stage 1 Revo... then you'll be hooked :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: - especially when its only £50 to go up to Stage 2 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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whilst Stu was smirking :smiley:
I have no idea what you mean :P
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gutted about Robins figure!!!!!!!!! 236 after a new turbo, robin...were you not getting the same with a cracked turbo!!?? WTF??!! im sure you will have some kind of explanation!? :smiley:
....I'm not gutted at all. My Revo settings are turned down to less than they used to be - There is a healthy spread of torque and the curves are smooth and as they should be. The car is very driveable and has no problem getting its power down on the road - Why should I feel gutted? - Because the bhp number isn't as high as some people think it should be?
The crack was in the wastegate and not in the turbo....The ECU was compensating for the leak by increasing its demands on the boost (requests in the %90's) but this would not have been good in the longer term. So, my car was still delivering power with the boost leak present.
My boost requests are now in the %70's and so there is loads of headroom and very little stress. Everything else in the data logs is healthy - That's why I use JKM's dyno - As a diagnostic tool and health check.
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Good news all round then :happy2:
Nice one chaps :jumpmove:
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gutted about Robins figure!!!!!!!!! 236 after a new turbo, robin...were you not getting the same with a cracked turbo!!?? WTF??!! im sure you will have some kind of explanation!? :smiley:
....I'm not gutted at all. My Revo settings are turned down to less than they used to be - There is a healthy spread of torque and the curves are smooth and as they should be. The car is very driveable and has no problem getting its power down on the road - Why should I feel gutted? - Because the bhp number isn't as high as some people think it should be?
The crack was in the wastegate and not in the turbo....The ECU was compensating for the leak by increasing its demands on the boost (requests in the %90's) but this would not have been good in the longer term. So, my car was still delivering power with the boost leak present.
My boost requests are now in the %70's and so there is loads of headroom and very little stress. Everything else in the data logs is healthy - That's why I use JKM's dyno - As a diagnostic tool and health check.
fair enough robin, but id have thought a stage 2 gti woud be more than 236bhp? mines run 251 with map and CAI and forge DV, just a bit confussed?! :confused:
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Its a dyno lottery joe, yours if it was put on jkm would only get 230approx, chris's (WHITEGTI)yesturday is stage 2 revo, full apr and was 245bhp. So yours at 251bhp on JKM rollers is a no chance in hell getting that figure. Robins again is higher state of tune then just stage 1 and a dump valve. An intercooler is not gonna give you any power increase joe as you have that and robin doesnt and nor does Chris (from memory)
All the cars need to be on the SAME set of rollers on the same day to then have a better idea.
Both cars we all thought are spot on, torque curves are all smooth, so i dont think anything wrong why they didnt get over 250.
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Its a dyno lottery joe, yours if it was put on jkm would only get 230approx, chris's (WHITEGTI)yesturday is stage 2 revo, full apr and was 245bhp. So yours at 251bhp on JKM rollers is a no chance in hell getting that figure. Robins again is higher state of tune then just stage 1 and a dump valve. An intercooler is not gonna give you any power increase joe as you have that and robin doesnt and nor does Chris (from memory)
All the cars need to be on the SAME set of rollers on the same day to then have a better idea.
Both cars we all thought are spot on, torque curves are all smooth, so i dont think anything wrong why they didnt get over 250.
well chris's getting 245? you just confirmed, running stg 2 and apr, so the only difference is robin is running a milltek and pleanty of other mods, and still 236. oh and i think youl find that a bigger cooler will add noticable power.
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I thought Robin had already said his map had been turned down? :confused:
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well chris's getting 245? you just confirmed, running stg 2 and apr, so the only difference is robin is running a milltek and pleanty of other mods, and still 236. oh and i think youl find that a bigger cooler will add noticable power.
I'm not sure you're right there Joe. An intercooler stops power loss due to heat soak. It doesn nothing to ADD extra power.
As for JKM's RR, I was surprised when I had my Edition 30 put on the dyno as it only showed 224bhp as standard, especially given that other Edition 30's regularly get 240+bhp on other dynos. I put it down to my engine still being tight as 95% of the mileage on it is motorway miles. However, I think Keith also doesn't massage the figures and settings to produce the power figures while some other garages might. After Revo Stage 1 I got 278bhp on the dyno - Revo claim 305 bhp - and this seemed poor in comparision to other figures that people mention on this and other forums. Its only with Stage 2 and a host of mods - see my sig - that I finally got 320bhp. But the thing with the dyno at JKM is that it is the best type of dyno you can get and is operated by someone who doesn't like to manipulate bhp figures, so I know I can rely on the readings I get at JKM.
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so what people are saying is all tuners talk sh1t and JKM rollers are gospal so all tuners should take their cars there to prove they are getting what they say
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lol!!!!
Helllllooooooo!
Robin and I are running the same boost setting, but with slightly different timing and fuel figures.
I am running Boost - 6, Timing - 5, Fuel, 8.
I expected more than 245.3hp, but I'm not too fussed I guess! I had predicted around the low 250's. But who knows....maybe on a colder, less humid day I would have got 251! Curves look nice, I'll post a photo of them later. Hitting around 291ft/lb of torque which is ok.
To confirm: I do not have an intercooler. Merely Stg2 Revo, TBE APR and Carbonio.
Echoing what Steve said for a fair comparison all cars must run together under the same conditions/rollers for it to be fair, which is obviously much easier said than done!!!
Keith at JKM said that if I was to put a full intake system on there such as the Forge/Evoms, then I could expect a 7-8hp gain immediately! But then, I have to think about the fuelling issues from the stock fuel pump not being able to cope with the increased demand on fuel. Vicious circle isnt it!!!
As Robin has said, running Boost 6 is ensuring that the turbo is still running at around 70% headroom, which is good to know.
Keith said that originally he ran my car at Boost 7, and it felt a lot quicker than at boost 6, but then he saw that the fuel pressure was falling when the car was loaded, therefore potentially leading to fuel cuts/misfire - which isn't what I want!
I agree with Joe, in that the intercooler will probably make a small difference in overall hp.
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Good to see you folks again, apologies that I had to shoot off, had quite a busy day. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
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Agree with illyan, robins car has been turned down because running it on the old settings, he damaged a turbo, so it was lowered to give a better operating tolerance.
An intercooler cannot give Higher horsepower joe, a larger intercooler just allows better heat dispersion as the engine and turbo will run hotter because it receiving more fuel/air mix, so all it does is help the engine temperature to run at its correct running temperature with any other adverse effect ie cracking turbo's etc as an example(in robins case).It has no affect on improving horsepower.If you add a full exhaust joe, then yes your car will produce towards your figure that youve been given.Golfgirls car produced 260bhp as stock on a set of rollers , then went on a dyno dynamics and got stock bhp 227bhp.
Its just the accuracy of the rollers that give these differences and nether robins or chris's cars are not sick!.
Like ive said before, we need everyone on a SAME set of rollers to proove this once and for all. :smiley:
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Why won't mr T_T come back and help us out!
I've noticed that he has recently been on other VAG forums!
Maybe he doesn't like us anymore!
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:mad:, i dont think he agree's with some peoples opinions on the GTi forums. If his word isnt final, then all hell breaks loose, and is not good for forum morale. He has upset a number of people with his sometime stern wordings on some subjects.
Tis a shame as he has in no doubt alot of knowledge.
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T_T certainly has a wealth of knowledge and contributes a lot to any VAG forum. However - His word is not gospel and he isn't right about everything he posts (and neither am I or any of us - we can only post info which is to the best of our knowledge). The issue I sometimes (not always!) have with T_T is that he sometimes slags off a company - Superchips and JKM being two examples. I tend to slag off Regal and we are all entitled to our opinions, but as Hurdy has often said: Listen to everybody and make up your own mind.
No-one is trying to claim that JKM's dyno is the one and only set of rollers in the UK which is truthful or operated properly, but I know that I can trust JKM and I view a dyno as primarily a diagnostic tool.
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Thats a great photo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish I had taken a similar one for when my car was on there!!!!!
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Thanks for the compliment, Chris :smiley: - It was just a quick pic I grabbed and I didn't stay around in that position because I may have got in Keith's way.
Of course, it's having AP Racing brakes which makes that pic :wink: :evilgrin:
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As you can tell my son is trying to tell me something :wink:
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£390 ;)
Stage 2 ;)
Kate will do you a deal I'm sure ;)
Need I say more ;)
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@Phil :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL: - That's brilliant!
Sounds as if the worm is in the brain!
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Questions were asked on Friday and the deal was offered so the seeds have been firmly planted. :innocent:
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so what people are saying is all tuners talk sh1t and JKM rollers are gospal so all tuners should take their cars there to prove they are getting what they say
Not at all. It just that its easy for a tuner to get a higher peak bhp reading at the expense of say, a decent consistant curve.
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T_T certainly has a wealth of knowledge and contributes a lot to any VAG forum. However - His word is not gospel and he isn't right about everything he posts
True, speaking to Keith at JKM, I asked about the Ed30 engine and the S3 engine and as far as he is concerned, they share the same engine parts according to the ETKA part numbers... so he thinks that the Ed30 engine indeed is the same as the S3 one with a few minor differences. This is in agreement with what Superchips say and articles in VW Driver. TT however thinks they don't and that the Ed30 engine is the same as the GTI engine, but for once I really wasn't convinced by his reasoning. Or maybe thats because I have an Ed30 :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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No-one is trying to claim that JKM's dyno is the one and only set of rollers in the UK which is truthful or operated properly, but I know that I can trust JKM and I view a dyno as primarily a diagnostic tool.
You hit the nail on the head there. Thats exactly what I meant. 8)
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As you can tell my son is trying to tell me something :wink:
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I really feel that you should grant his wish :evilgrin: