MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Johnny_tro on January 20, 2015, 09:53:55 pm
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Right, just an update on mine. Strange one.
- They have agreed to replace and paint front wings and paint lower sills
- They want £130 to blend otherwise its just the items listed above - should they not blend as standard?
- Big one - tailgate. In and around the badge has major bubbling/rust. I have spoken with VW UK and they are saying this is a paint issue (under there 3 years policy) and not under the full rust warranty. How can this be? any tips on fighting this?
Rust is rust! If they are doing the wings and sills...how can they reject the tailgate?
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just be glad what you got out of them, yours is one of the first mk5s and i suspect an import too
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No do not get me wrong, happy. But the boot lid is in a bad way.... rusted. Surely this is covered?
Import?? Ordered and purchased in the UK mate I have the original receipt
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Is it just the badge itself, like the actual mechanism or is the tailgate metal itself rusting?
All of the early mk5 models with the slow close mechanism had this rust problem. It's the same whiteworm that attacks your diamond cut alloys.
If VW agree to do the badge then they should agree to do the alloys and before you know it they're down £1,000 and they can't operate a business!!
Buy a mk6 badge and retrofit it, looks nice and is easy to do!
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Right, just an update on mine. Strange one.
- They have agreed to replace and paint front wings and paint lower sills
- They want £130 to blend otherwise its just the items listed above - should they not blend as standard?
- Big one - tailgate. In and around the badge has major bubbling/rust. I have spoken with VW UK and they are saying this is a paint issue (under there 3 years policy) and not under the full rust warranty. How can this be? any tips on fighting this?
Rust is rust! If they are doing the wings and sills...how can they reject the tailgate?
I had my front wings done before christmas at no cost. They didn't mention blending to me at all. Mine looks ok apart from the front wings being a bit shinier lol.
I also had rust on the tailgate under the light fitting. VW offered me a 50% goodwill gesture as they said it was not covered under the corrosion warranty as there was no perforation. I had the work done and have written to the head office this week to ask for further information on why it was not covered and to ask for my money back or a free service. I am waiting to see what they come back with.
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No do not get me wrong, happy. But the boot lid is in a bad way.... rusted. Surely this is covered?
Import?? Ordered and purchased in the UK mate I have the original receipt
I had the paintwork rust under the boot badge repaired for free. Was only offered 50% at first, but after a letter to the MD of VW they changed their minds :happy2:
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I've had both wings replaced and painted for free. They wouldn't do the sill though :sad1:
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I managed to get new wings, sills, bubbling at rear quarters, tailgate & replacement Gti badge out them :smiley: My tailgate was also quite bad with bubbling and over a period of about 8/9 months got drastically worse so id keep on at them.They gave me the option to pay for blending of doors which I did. Cost about £134 to blend. Thought I did ok considering the hassle some people have had.
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The rear badge has slight white worm, but the tailgate (around the badge) is really really bad. The rust is so bad the water is now leaking through.
Listers said they could not action this under warranty - I believe they are saying this because of the cost impact. They are unable to repair the tailgate and advised it would need a replacement. The total cost - replace, refit and paint the tailgate is £1900 :sad1: with a £300 extra just incase they are unable to remove the rear glass.
I know there is a slight defect on the wings but rush is rust, surely? the wings have bubbled and rusted the tailgate has done the same, but worse.
Had a brief call from them, currently they are saying the reason the tailgate is not really covered is becuase this is a PAINT issue (covered for 3 years only) and not a rust issue. Seem complete bull if you ask me
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I think you are correct they are throwing you alot of bull. Take it do a different VW garage and dont mention anything you were told previously. When the guy was inspecting my wings he was gonna try pulling sumthn similar saying they might not replace wings because his gadget for checking paint thickness was showing that wheel arches had been repaired in the past. Previous owner might have done so. Anyways the only reason they did do them was because they were the original wings. Hope you get it all sorted sounds bad.
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Third phone call from VW UK today
The matter is being looked in to, they are CLAIMING the rust of the tailgate is a paint issue, which is not covered under warranty. Paint is only covered for three years. They advised me they will need to get an engineers report, to advise HOW has the paint caused the tailgate to rush and how its a different type of rust to the wings lol
Am I missing something? water + penetration = rust
How is can it be different. I await a call back Tuesday with the results
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no UK car had the option of Auxiliary heater
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It is a strange feature, but awesome now the cold has set in :smiley: so nice to get in to a pre-heated car.
Can confirm car is UK, the original owner requested this to be installed when ordered - cost him ££££
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my boot lid was done under warranty by VW Chelmsford
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Thank you for the update Jedi - did they agree to do it? or did you have to get approval from VW UK?
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They took pics and sent it to vw for approval and then Chelmsford did the work.
All very simple.
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I got my wings done FOC but wouldn't do the sills. They said if the rust is not coming from the inside and is due to a stone chip or like they will not cover so just prove its from the inside (If possible?) and go from there :happy2:
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I have tried to get my wings sorted at my local dealer and their first response was that my car doesnt have a full VWSH? Any of you guys had this? My arguement so far is along the lines of, its a corrosion issue as far as i am aware body panels are not components you service so having a service history should be irrelevant?
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I just got my wings redone for free, then a week later noticed my tailagte, took it back and they sorted that out too! The only difference being, the wings were a straight up replacement, and the tailgate was a repair, so just a re-spray. But they have done an absolutely amazing job, so can't complain. Seems very strange that some of us have more luck than others.. Maybe try another VW garage?
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Popped into the same dealer this morning. Walked in spoke to a different bloke. As soon as i mentioned rusty wings on a mk5 he said bring it in on a weekday they will do the assesment and send it off to VW . No mention of service history or anything!! Going to head in there Monday afternoon if i can get time off work!
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Good stuff! Yeah service history isn't required for the claim to go through
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Mine was authorised by the dealer 100% no argument necessary, couldn't believe it. Fair play to vw
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Cars booked I for the 20/3/15 vw paying 100% for everything both wings and sills which I'm happy about plus a free courtesy car :)
Cars estimated to be in for one week just hope they do a good job and the cars in safe hands anyone on here ever used VW LOOKERS BLACKBURN??
:)
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Cars booked I for the 20/3/15 vw paying 100% for everything both wings and sills which I'm happy about plus a free courtesy car :)
Cars estimated to be in for one week just hope they do a good job and the cars in safe hands anyone on here ever used VW LOOKERS BLACKBURN??
:)
Did you get any grief about the sills?
Ive been offered a goodwill contribution and still quoted me £500!
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Ive been offered 100% on my wings too. Booked in on 23/3/15 sills would be 50% so that leaves me having to pay £356.50!! I will leave the sills. Also i have to pay for the panels to be blended! 100+VAT per side. Im hoping they will match ok without that though!!
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Ive been offered 100% on my wings too. Booked in on 23/3/15 sills would be 50% so that leaves me having to pay £356.50!! I will leave the sills. Also i have to pay for the panels to be blended! 100+VAT per side. Im hoping they will match ok without that though!!
Personally mate, I'd sell a kidney/child and get all the paint work done in one hit, then the blending will be better and the rust put to rest. Leaving the sills longer could just make it worse and VW may turn around in a few years and say no to anyone due to the mk5 being over 10 years old now (how scary is that!).
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Fair play mate i didnt think of it that way. My sill has one tiny bubble about the size of a 5p at the moment and only on one side. I have a mate that could sort it for me so will have a think! I am waiting for VW to come back to me about my tailgate but "pictures weren't clear enough" so they are taking more on the 23rd!!
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I sent an email to the VW dealership in Bradford yesterday. Below is the response I received:
"Morning MR Ryan
With regards to the rust on your car, if the rust is at the top of the wheel arch 12 0’clock position this would likely be covered under the
Volkswagen goodwill policy as the rust is created from an external source rather than through corrosion, at the moment VW are contributing up to 100%
For replacement wings. We would need you to bring the car to our body shop on sticker lane and ask for Steve or Matthew who will inspect
& take pictures for us to submit a request to Volkswagen who would then either authorise or decline, if you need any further assistance
PLS call or email.
Thanks."
Martin Langley
Warranty Executive
JCT600 VOLKSWAGEN BRADFORD
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If you've got a trusted friend, I'd personally go to them over VW. My girlfriend's car had to go back twice as after they corrected the wings the left scratches and dents on the rest of the car. If VW can at least just give you the new wings for free that may be a way ahead as well. If you're lucky you could pay your friend in instalments to ease the financial hit of it.
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Sounds promising Ruggy!
the3_f15t, i have considered it mate. Im going to take lots of pictures of my car before it goes in and make sure i get it back in good shape! Ive started saving for the rest haha
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Cars booked I for the 20/3/15 vw paying 100% for everything both wings and sills which I'm happy about plus a free courtesy car :)
Cars estimated to be in for one week just hope they do a good job and the cars in safe hands anyone on here ever used VW LOOKERS BLACKBURN??
:)
Did you get any grief about the sills?
Ive been offered a goodwill contribution and still quoted me £500!
Nope no problems at all all free of charge I'm well happy :happy2:
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Sounds promising Ruggy!
the3_f15t, i have considered it mate. Im going to take lots of pictures of my car before it goes in and make sure i get it back in good shape! Ive started saving for the rest haha 
I'll keep the thread updated with how I get on.
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I hope to god my car comes out the same condition it went in is it common for cars to be damaged?? :confused:
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I have heard a few stories about damage but again its down to who is doing the work and how much the dealers care about customers. My car is going to an approved repairers so in theory for them to carry on getting work from VW they need to do a good job! Well thats what im hoping haha
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Cars booked I for the 20/3/15 vw paying 100% for everything both wings and sills which I'm happy about plus a free courtesy car :)
Cars estimated to be in for one week just hope they do a good job and the cars in safe hands anyone on here ever used VW LOOKERS BLACKBURN??
:)
Did you get any grief about the sills?
Ive been offered a goodwill contribution and still quoted me £500!
Nope no problems at all all free of charge I'm well happy :happy2:
Looks like I'll have to write a letter to head office then, do you mind me using you as an example?
Which VW did you go to? Did you get the csr from then? FVSH?
Thanks
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You can use me as an example when my cars done haha don't want anything going against me and went to Blackburn VW and I didn't get the car from there but vehicle has got FVSH :happy2:
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You can use me as an example when my cars done haha don't want anything going against me and went to Blackburn VW and I didn't get the car from there but vehicle has got FVSH :happy2:
Ye that's fine, cheers. Imagine if wrote in kicking off and they refused yours :grin:
Mine hasn't got fvsh so that could influence it.
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They never even asked to see my service history but it's 95% vw anyway
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They didn't even check my history mate looked at it did paint readings then boom waited a mont the they booked it in need it for a week :)
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Was that sills & wings for a month? Mine is just 2 front wings but I'm not getting a courtesy car so no way should that take a month.
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Was that sills & wings for a month? Mine is just 2 front wings but I'm not getting a courtesy car so no way should that take a month.
I had to wait a month to get booked in once my car goes in and they do the wings and the sills it will take a week tops but I get a courtesy car.
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No joy with mine.
Took it in yesterday for them to have a look at, they took paint depth readings and it's way over the thickness it should be, they also said they think it's got filler on the wings. So, because a previous owner at some point in it's history has decided to do a sh*t repair, I can't get it repaired by VW under warranty. Extremely pissed off!!
I asked how much it would cost if I was to pay and they said it would be about £500 per wing.
I also got them to look at rust around the rear badge, paint readings are fine. They took some pictures and they will be sending them off to VW UK to ask if it can be repaired under warranty.
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Thats a bit sh*t mate
on the plus side ive heard that euro car parts do some reasonably prices wings. Im sure a local bodyshop will do a good job and offer a price thats easier to swallow than the stealers!
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I've looked at the ECP wings and if you go for the Platinum Plus versions, they're are supposed to be the same ones you'd get from the dealer. Fully insurance and Thatcham approved and they're only £55 each.
Seems like a bargain so I think I'll purchase them and stick them in the spare room until the ones on the car start to look terrible.
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I've looked at the ECP wings and if you go for the Platinum Plus versions, they're are supposed to be the same ones you'd get from the dealer. Fully insurance and Thatcham approved and they're only £55 each.
Seems like a bargain so I think I'll purchase them and stick them in the spare room until the ones on the car start to look terrible.
Link me please?
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Don't know how to link, not massively IT savvy!
Just go on the ECP website, put in your reg, look at body panels and it'll give you a choice of 3. Been told that the Platinum Plus versions are by far the best.
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Says £113 for me haha.
Just copy and paste the website address onto here?
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You're looking at the front panel and not the wings. Wings are definitely £55.25 each.
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_2.0_2005/p/car-parts/car-body-parts-and-car-exhaust/body-shop/body-panel/?802441995&1&020d1e08b0df56db913bfc6345a08f53dc87894f&000375
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Got it, thanks!
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I've looked at the ECP wings and if you go for the Platinum Plus versions, they're are supposed to be the same ones you'd get from the dealer. Fully insurance and Thatcham approved and they're only £55 each.
Seems like a bargain so I think I'll purchase them and stick them in the spare room until the ones on the car start to look terrible.
They are the ones I've heard about mate. Unfortunately the paint matching will be the expensive bit. I have been told, although VW are repairing/ replacing the panels, I would have to pay £100+VAT each side to have them fully blended and colour matched!!
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Very true, it's crazy that paint is more than the actual part!
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Mines gone in today for the wings to be done.
Hopefully have it back by the end of the week.
In the mean time I have a lovely brand new Fiat 500....in Yellow and White! Mmmmmmmmm!
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Nice discreet courtesy car then haha
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The Guy who delivered it was laughing as he unloaded it and handed me the keys :)
He tried to lessen the pain by telling me it only had 6 miles on the clock! I told him it would be around 7miles when he collected it :)
Inside is worse!
A White Steering wheel WTF!!!
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what!!! Haha i hope i get something better on the 23rd!!
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I'm not getting a courtesy car at all :(
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I'm not getting a courtesy car at all :(
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what!!! Haha i hope i get something better on the 23rd!!
Mine was collected by the actual bodyshop and not the dealer. So the bodyshop provided the car. If i'd dropped it of at VW they would have supplied the car, I did get the option, collecting from my house was the easiest for me (maybe the 500 is punishment for getting them to collect my car haha)
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Had a call from VW today. Due to my car going off site i can't have a VW courtesy car. The dealer spoke to the bodyshop and they don't have a car to offer! However, he phoned a second bodyshop who are owned by Carrs Ferrari Exeter. They are collecting my Golf from my home address and giving me a car to use. 7th April now and probably a 500 courtesy car
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I rang customer services today to ask why I wasn't being offered a courtesy car, they're contacting them in the morning to arrange one for me. Have to say I'm very impressed with the customer services dept of vw they have been great considering my car is 2006 & all they have done.
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I've just been offered:
100% replacement of wings
50% contribution to the rear wheel arch
50% contribution to the tailgate
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Question why it's only 50%. I was given 100% on my tailgate with no fuss at all. It was a repair rather than a replacement, but still it fixed the problem!
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I don't know whether to go back and ask for more contribution or whether to just accept it and move on. The warranty guy has now gone on holiday for 2 weeks so around 18 days of my 28 that the quote is valid for is now gone until I can either go ahead or ask him to go back and try and get more.
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I got the same offer. 100% wings 50% sills and im waiting on the tailgate as they didnt take good enough pics the first time!!