MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: Beej on January 23, 2015, 08:53:21 pm
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Evening chaps,
Right, first things first. Going straight to stage 2 on revo basically.
Car is standard GTI at the moment, and i was only planing on going stage 1 with a tbe, but then decided to put an intake on it and go stage 2, but i have spent weeks on end deciding which exhaust to go with, settled a few weeks back on a full bcs with powervalve, but i am becoming impatient waiting on a group buy to get 20% off! Do bcs offer the forum a discount anyway? they seem to have 10% off on their site, and if they offered any other discount on top of that, i will order it this week! Also, does anyone know if i would need to take the car to them to have the powervalve system fitted or can it be done at home?
Then there's the intake! I have settled on a revo one. Problem is, you can't buy it from their website, plus it lists it for k04? Do i need to buy it from there, or can i get it anywhere else?
Thanks guys!
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sorry, just realised, put this in the wrong section, can a mod please move it to the modifications please?
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Ring @nige bcs (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=331) and he'll do you a great deal - if you can't wait for the next group buy.
Try a search on the Internet, loads of places sell the Revo intake.
If you are going Revo stage 2, make sure you replace the HPFP too. Even though REVO don't say its a requirement, your stock HPFP will struggle to maintain the required fuelling. a few guys on the forum have had this problem.
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mmmm, thing is, i am really stretching it to just afford the intake, so thought i would be ok without the hpfp as that another big cost which i thought was only required for stage 2+??
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Was just about to write the same as Gray re all the above stuff.
Get the REVO (or EVOMS) CAI first and a REVO stage 1 map and enjoy. When monies allow get the Powervlave and for only an additional £50 it's a REVO stage 2 map. Even a standard car will benefit from a HPFP and also a IC let a lone a tuned one but not essential for a REVO stage 2.
(Personally Id say R-Tech for tuning but thats just me)
:happy2:
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I take it i can buy the pump internals -£300 and fit them? Is it pretty straight forward? surely i could go for a stage 1+ (i know there isn't, but you know what i mean) with the tbe and intake? then pay the extra £50 in the summer for stage 2?
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Was just about to write the same as Gray re all the above stuff.
Get the REVO (or EVOMS) CAI first and a REVO stage 1 map and enjoy. When monies allow get the Powervlave and for only an additional £50 it's a REVO stage 2 map. Even a standard car will benefit from a HPFP and also a IC let a lone a tuned one but not essential for a REVO stage 2.
(Personally Id say R-Tech for tuning but thats just me)
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meant to say, going revo as they are local, plus, my brother knows the guys and has just had his octavia vrs done with them!
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Yeap, your right re stage 1+. I had a R-Tech stage 1+ map with a REVO CIA and BCS Powervlave as the only mods as their stage 2 maps require a Intercooler.
I would recommend a Intercooler and HPFP as both these will be of benefit to your car.
Can't comment on internals or fitting, I bought a LOBA pump.
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ok, thank for that, really confused now, as at first i was under the impression from reading and reading and reading that really all that is needed for a stage 2 is the tbe and a cai is recommended, now thats not even enough! So realistically, with a stage 1+, would i still be looking at circa 250-260 bhp and 280/290lb/ft?
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It's covered in here: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9988.0.html
@RedRobin (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=13) fitted an intake and exhaust system with Revo stage 2 and after a while his power dropped. JKM traced the fault to the HPFP struggling to meet the fuel demands. An APR HPFP Fixed the problem :happy2:
@rich83 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=709) noticed similar with his Ed30 (same level of tune).
As the Revo intake has the potential to flow more air than Robin's twintake, your setup has a good chance of suffering the same fault.
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Ok, i see the group buy for the loba pump is still on the go, so i will have a think! So really, going from revo's site, i could get a stage 2+ then......
Thanks for your input guys
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I was looking at revo induction there is one on eBay and if you call them I got them down to £300 if you pay directly to them and not with ebay I think £300 for brand new is great deal :smiley: I ended up wth forge twintake instead :)
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thanks for that, i will go have a butchers!
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Just incase anyone is interested, i have spoken with Nige @ BCS today and ordered a complete powervalve system with 200cel cat, i have also secured an engine cover for modifying for an intake, i have contacted my local revo dealer to get a revo intake (and future map) and also going to go ahead and get a loba hpfp while i'm at it!
Skint would be an understatement!
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Just incase anyone is interested, i have spoken with Nige @ BCS today and ordered a complete powervalve system with 200cel cat, i have also secured an engine cover for modifying for an intake, i have contacted my local revo dealer to get a revo intake (and future map) and also going to go ahead and get a loba hpfp while i'm at it!
Skint would be an understatement!
:congrats:
Will certainly sound great and go well with that little lot :happy2:
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Hope so! effectively all i'm missing is an ic, but surely the factory one cools enough for sufficient gains with the other mods?
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IC is recommended but will be OK, you should get one when funds allow though. More likely that you'll need a clutch though with all that torque your old one probably won't last long.
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DSG bud!
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:happy2: :happy2:
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Just incase anyone is interested, i have spoken with Nige @ BCS today and ordered a complete powervalve system with 200cel cat, i have also secured an engine cover for modifying for an intake, i have contacted my local revo dealer to get a revo intake (and future map) and also going to go ahead and get a loba hpfp while i'm at it!
Skint would be an understatement!
It will sound epic fella, I know. Ive had a BCS Sport Powervalve with 200 cell cat and REVO CAI on for a couple of years and it still brings a smile to face and friends who have driven my lady.
IC will be a a MAJOR limiting factor with the other mods on, consider a PERON, THS or S3 with Twintercooler.
(May flog my THS in a few months :wink:)
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Cheers, I'm sure I won't be disappointed! I've listened to a few clips, but to be honest, I think I don't think they do the system justice, and going by all the praise you guys give bcs on both sound and build quality, I've taken a punt for it.
Put it this way, anything between 260/270 bhp with 280+ torques I will be happy until I can afford a cooler
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revo intake fitted yesterday, all sorts of wooshing noises now! Will take a bit of getting used to pulling off gently and hearing what can only be described as the blowers running on 3/4 - full!
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Got a very large parcel delivered today.............just happened to be bcs turbo back powervalve system! Can't wait to get this fitted now!!
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Cheers Brian - hope you enjoy it pal :happy2:
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Fitted the system this morning, spent the other half of the day looking for reasons to stay out in the car with a MASSIVE grin on my face! System sounds a little and I really mean a little over standard when driving around normally, no droan, I repeat no droan at all on motorway cruising, amazing note when on boost and the valve opens. Not a raspy or tinny sound, but a real deep, crisp tuned note. To say I'm impressed is an understatement!
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My car only pulled 288ft lbs on a stage 2+, is it just me or does this seem low for 2+?