MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: PaulED30 on February 07, 2015, 12:53:11 pm
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finding myself in need of some advice please guys.
so the story goes, i ordered rear discs and pads from demon tweeks. yesterday i had early finish from work so decided to get them on. a lot of messing around the discs do not fit :fighting: but the pads are fine.
i measured my discs before ordering they are 310 x 22 so i ordered 310 x 22, the problem arises because of the distance from the seating face of disc to the disc brushed surface.
so i have been on the phone to DT this morning trying to sort out the problem (i was looking for an exchange as i still need them) and they are not taking any of the responsibility for me having the incorrect discs. at first they told me i must not have a golf. Then it was i must have ordered the wrong ones or measured mine wrong, even though they are the same size as the ones ordered when next to each other its just the depth that differs. after this they do not understand the problem but its still my own fault :confused:. now i have had to pay return postage of £33 and may loose 10% of my refund.
these are the ones i ordered;
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/brake-discs/car/volkswagen/golf-mk5-gti/ebc-brakes-turbo-groove-performance-brake-discs-rear-pair-vented-310mm-x-22mm
what could be the problem? i don't understand how they don't fit. i also don't know where to go from here, if they don't fit how will any other disc for a MK5?
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Standard rear disc size for the GTi is 286mm x 12mm solid disc, do you have R32 rear brakes on your car as they are 310mm x 22mm vented disc?
Pads are the same for both GTi and R32 though :happy2:
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Just to add, the ones in the link you have posted are definitely not GTi rear discs, they are R32 versions..
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and they do not fit i know they are the same part no of the r32 ones, but my discs are definitely 310 x 22 vented
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Pictures of disc please?
@DEMON TWEEKS (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11468)
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UK distance selling law applies to all goods bought by mail order. You can return goods for a full refund within 7 working days of receiving them. Provided you informed them that they were not right within this period you can get a full refund without any deductions. You will have to pay the return delivery charge though.
I always prefer to buy parts from a factor or dealer parts dept locally - that way you can go back with the old part if the new one doesn't fit.
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the reason i bought them is because they dropped below the price of euro car parts so i thought why not, really wish i hadn't bothered now
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the ones i recieved;
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw17%2Fpaulaki1%2FIMG_0101_zps89cfc929.jpg&hash=c0c5e4a160d7a18c0f2fe0b81bcc686319cee3d1)
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and they do not fit i know they are the same part no of the r32 ones, but my discs are definitely 310 x 22 vented
So you have the R32 rear disc upgrade on your car then? :smiley:
If so, can't see why the discs supplied shouldn't fit as they definitely look like OE R32 rears..
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I can confirm having just changed rear discs,pads and a caliper on my standard 2007 Gti that the rear discs are indeed 286mm and they are solid Not vented!
Not sure why yours are measuring 310mm mate only answer is that a previous owner must have upgraded them but the question is to what ?
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i know its giving me a real headache trying to figure out what they are
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What is the exact problem? Is it that disc will not fit or that once fitted the pads will not fit in the calipers?
Reason I ask is that perhaps pads are not right for the upgrade you have. I had real hassle with pads for a mk2 golf - issue there was that there were identical shaped pads but with slightly different depth friction linings (10mm compared to 12mm). The 12 mm ones would not fit with calipers pushed right back but the 10 mm ones did. I tried 2 factors and vw dealer before I got right size (was local eurocarparts that had a Pagid ones of correct size)
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Have you rewound your rear calipers back? They may be forcing the pads out to compensate for the worn pads before but now just making the disc not fit. Caliper rewind tools arent that expensive from most parts places.
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the caliper with new pads in fit over the discs and the discs fit the car. for them discs to work i would need some sort of bracket/spacer between where the caliper fixes to the car. in other words with everything is in the right place there would be around 10mm gap between the caliper and its fixing point.
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Have you rewound your rear calipers back? They may be forcing the pads out to compensate for the worn pads before but now just making the disc not fit. Caliper rewind tools arent that expensive from most parts places.
yes rewound as far as possible
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We need pictures, this is confusing! I'm sure its something simple mate so don't dispear too much!
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Does the part number on the EBC box match what you have ordered?
There are two different versions of the 310mm disc, one for the R32/S3 and one for the TTS. The have different offsets. TTS disc sits further in towards the car.
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this is how it sits now old discs new pads
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw17%2Fpaulaki1%2FIMG_0111_zps01c39077.jpg&hash=51f96b108b9e09986d2e4e96dcfb9da90171e21c)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw17%2Fpaulaki1%2FIMG_0113_zps0ebfe648.jpg&hash=c685beb276ff9dde9a65ea383098fb98b8aa618f)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw17%2Fpaulaki1%2FIMG_0112_zpse3140841.jpg&hash=5dc401954e8eee33f4ad084f4ca0ebdf7dfa9690)
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Does the part number on the EBC box match what you have ordered?
There are two different versions of the 310mm disc, one for the R32/S3 and one for the TTS. The have different offsets. TTS disc sits further in towards the car.
to be honest the new ones are not enough towards the car
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So the new ones sit too far out, where the old ones sit in towards the centre of the car?
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correct yes like they have more of a taper, if you compare the photo of my old disc to the ones i recieved