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Title: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 08, 2015, 05:08:11 pm
Hi all,

Carried out a multifunction retrofit today in my 2005 MK5.

Followed guides both on here and YouTube and had it all successfully installed.

Only problem is that even after a short drive, the steering wheel and traction control lights won't switch off and the steering has become really heavy.

Also the straight angle on the wheel is slightly slanted which means for me to drive straight, the wheel is slightly tilted.

Any ideas what I've done wrong as I've followed guides quiet accurately.

Thanks
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 08, 2015, 05:08:58 pm
Just wanted to add that the lights work on the wheel and the functions also I.e volume adjustment and Custer clock control all function
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: monte on February 08, 2015, 06:13:46 pm
I've not really got any advice as such but on mine you wouldn't believe how long the steering adaptation took when I went from mk5 to mk6 MFSW  :indifferent:

......over  1000 miles  :surprised:

All of a sudden one day I set off to town and I thought.....the steering has gone real light!!!

Then on the drive to town it adapted properly the light went out and it felt great again  :happy2:

Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: skard on February 08, 2015, 06:35:09 pm
Idle the engine on a flat road, full lock one way and hold a few seconds, repeat the other way, centre up and drive straight at about 10mph.
The lights may go off.if not, just keep driving until they go 

Otherwise basic settings can be initiated in VCDS
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 08, 2015, 06:53:35 pm
Idle the engine on a flat road, full lock one way and hold a few seconds, repeat the other way, centre up and drive straight at about 10mph.
The lights may go off.if not, just keep driving until they go 

Otherwise basic settings can be initiated in VCDS

Cheers David. I've tried that. Will VCDS sort it. I thought maybe I need to change the steering angle sensor aswell
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 08, 2015, 06:55:31 pm
I've not really got any advice as such but on mine you wouldn't believe how long the steering adaptation took when I went from mk5 to mk6 MFSW  :indifferent:

......over  1000 miles  :surprised:

All of a sudden one day I set off to town and I thought.....the steering has gone real light!!!

Then on the drive to town it adapted properly the light went out and it felt great again  :happy2:

I wouldn't dare do the mk6 mod. The mk5 retrofit is hard work for me as it is

I'll continue driving the car for abit and hope it'll get sorted

Cheers bud
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: skard on February 08, 2015, 07:01:25 pm
I have had to do it a couple of times lately, unless you rotated your slipring a few times when the wheel was off, there'll be no hardware issue.
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 08, 2015, 08:26:13 pm
I have had to do it a couple of times lately, unless you rotated your slipring a few times when the wheel was off, there'll be no hardware issue.

I think I may have touched the touched the slip ring a couple of times. Would that mean I would have to take the steering wheel off again or will VCDS sort it  :sad1:
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: skard on February 08, 2015, 08:28:52 pm
No this is normal for these lights to be on after a steering wheel removal. The slipring just needs to be calibrated.

So longas you never did more than two full revolutions either way of the slipring it will be ok.

Have a read of this, if after a few days it is still on the VCDS will get to it
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_%281K%29_Steering_Assist#Sensor_for_Steering_Angle_.28G85.29
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 08, 2015, 08:42:49 pm
I don't think I played with the slip ring that much lol

Ok great, il give it a couple of days, otherwise VCDS it is

Thanks again David
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: monte on February 09, 2015, 10:22:06 pm
Idle the engine on a flat road, full lock one way and hold a few seconds, repeat the other way, centre up and drive straight at about 10mph.
The lights may go off.if not, just keep driving until they go 

Otherwise basic settings can be initiated in VCDS

Me and Darren (MortyGttdi) did the adaptation procedure at least 15x  :scared:
(As well as everything else with VCDS)
We couldn't spend anymore time on trying that day so I had a long drive home. Then it was another 2wks before I could get back to Leeds to try again with Darren.

But like I say after about 1000 miles it miraculously adapted one mornings  :drinking:
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 09, 2015, 10:31:14 pm
Idle the engine on a flat road, full lock one way and hold a few seconds, repeat the other way, centre up and drive straight at about 10mph.
The lights may go off.if not, just keep driving until they go 

Otherwise basic settings can be initiated in VCDS

Me and Darren (MortyGttdi) did the adaptation procedure at least 15x  :scared:
(As well as everything else with VCDS)
We couldn't spend anymore time on trying that day so I had a long drive home. Then it was another 2wks before I could get back to Leeds to try again with Darren.

But like I say after about 1000 miles it miraculously adapted one mornings  :drinking:

Man the steering is becoming really heavy. We're your steering and esp lights on until the adaptation and did it clear when your steering became light again?
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: skard on February 09, 2015, 10:34:00 pm
I remember after putting a highline cluster in Maxitrol's car it wouldn't get rid of the lights for ages.
My ED30 never did it either until last week when I had the seat out, seems to be very hit and miss. Luckiky I have a pretty empty car park nearby I can do sllthrse shady manouvres in to clear it
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: monte on February 09, 2015, 10:38:40 pm
Hi mate, yes it was heavy. One morning I reversed out of the drive and the steering had gone to the other end of the scale. It was so light it felt like the wheels were disconnected  :jumping:

On my journey to town the steering got better and better and the lights cleared  :happy2:

Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 09, 2015, 10:41:38 pm
I remember after putting a highline cluster in Maxitrol's car it wouldn't get rid of the lights for ages.
My ED30 never did it either until last week when I had the seat out, seems to be very hit and miss. Luckiky I have a pretty empty car park nearby I can do sllthrse shady manouvres in to clear it

I am hoping that it lightens up soon, it's becomming a struggle to drive.

I have tried the adaptation process a couple of times, also removed battery terminal for 10 mins and still the same. The next 900 miles are going to be difficult
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 09, 2015, 10:42:49 pm
Hi mate, yes it was heavy. One morning I reversed out of the drive and the steering had gone to the other end of the scale. It was so light it felt like the wheels were disconnected  :jumping:

On my journey to town the steering got better and better and the lights cleared  :happy2:

Let's hope it's sorted soon, thanks for the reassurance buddy  :happy2:
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: monte on February 09, 2015, 10:44:27 pm
Hopefully It won't take as long as mine did. From what I learned 1000 miles to adapt is unheard of  :driver:
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 09, 2015, 10:46:29 pm
Hopefully It won't take as long as mine did. From what I learned 1000 miles to adapt is unheard of  :driver:

Did you not try to resolve the issue via VCDS?

Atleast my shoulders and biceps will benefit from this exercise  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: monte on February 09, 2015, 10:52:56 pm
Yes mate we tried everything with VCDS  :sad1:
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 09, 2015, 10:57:40 pm
Yes mate we tried everything with VCDS  :sad1:

Ok, il drive it around for a while and see what happens. Il keep you posted after around 1000 miles
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: RetroRaz on February 10, 2015, 07:21:30 am
When I do cluster or steering wheel  changes this happens as well. there is a town hall near my house with a roundabout.  I go around that a few times and do a few reverses on full lock and It clears it within 5 miles.
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 10, 2015, 10:08:48 am
When I do cluster or steering wheel  changes this happens as well. there is a town hall near my house with a roundabout.  I go around that a few times and do a few reverses on full lock and It clears it within 5 miles.

Unfortunately bro, been driving it around and its still the same. I will continue driving it for abit and see how it goes.

P.s gave you a call in the evening yesterday
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: RetroRaz on February 10, 2015, 10:15:02 am
When I do cluster or steering wheel  changes this happens as well. there is a town hall near my house with a roundabout.  I go around that a few times and do a few reverses on full lock and It clears it within 5 miles.

Unfortunately bro, been driving it around and its still the same. I will continue driving it for abit and see how it goes.

P.s gave you a call in the evening yesterday

Ill drop you a text.
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: olsen-72 on February 10, 2015, 10:16:04 am
Sometimes VCDS want do it guys i.e. 2 days ago i've changed steering module and o matter how lon i drove or how many basic settings i did, its still the same. So I used other tool and its done straight away.
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 10, 2015, 10:30:03 am
Sometimes VCDS want do it guys i.e. 2 days ago i've changed steering module and o matter how lon i drove or how many basic settings i did, its still the same. So I used other tool and its done straight away.

What tool did you use?
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: olsen-72 on February 10, 2015, 10:49:45 am
Vag can pro
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 10, 2015, 11:49:33 am
Vag can pro

And did that sort it out straight away? Do you have the tool? If so, where abouts are you based?
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: olsen-72 on February 10, 2015, 11:50:54 am
Yes. Sorted straight away. And yes i have this tool. Redditch based
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 10, 2015, 11:53:42 am
Yes. Sorted straight away. And yes i have this tool. Redditch based

Would you be passing by London any time soon I.E. possibly got a group meet with Eddie on the 21st in South London
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: olsen-72 on February 10, 2015, 11:55:48 am
I dont think so as im doing same things as Ed so no point me to going there hehe
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 10, 2015, 11:57:51 am
I dont think so as im doing same things as Ed so no point me to going there hehe

Lol well give me a shout if you have a change of heart  :happy2:. Going to see Ed on the 21st hopefully
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: SkyJawa on February 12, 2015, 09:06:07 am
Took me a few attempts at resetting the basic settings and performing the adaption procedure as per Ross Tech, but all resolved in 20 minutes or so.

Just to add, my wheel is also ever so slightly off centre, but it is lined up with the mark on the steering column and indicator cancellation all works fine.  Just a case of getting the alignment done to get the wheel straight again I reckon.
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: MAH on February 12, 2015, 11:16:11 am
Thanks guys, got it sorted. Took the steering wheel and noticed that the wheel had not been lined up straight with the slip ring. As soon as i sorted that, the steering went light and error lights turned off.

For anyone carrying out this mod, please make sure you line both the wheel and slip ring straight

Thanks

Abaid
Title: Re: Steering wheel gone heavy after multifunction wheel retrofit
Post by: Andy on February 15, 2015, 03:06:06 pm
Good to see you got it sorted