MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Technical Workshop => Topic started by: rex on February 09, 2015, 07:15:17 am
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Hello,
I am interested in swapping my CCM with a high end one.
I have the following code 1K0 959 433 AJ (2 doors).
Now, I couldn't find any exact data as to what codes fit my car.
From a previous topic (here (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,24735)) I found out the 2/4 doors module work for cars from MY 2007 onward. I have a MY 2008 car. So I should be fine.
But, there are a lot of different variations to a code...
For example, 1K0 959 433 BT can have Software 202 or 203 or 204. It may also have 42W or 50W.
So, than, my questions are the following:
1. What are the high end codes I/we should look for?
2. What other information about the new CCM should concern us (except the code)?
3. Is it better to have a CCM older or newer than the one installed in the car?
Thank you!
P.S. Here (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3604801-DIY-hi-line-cluster) is a very good DIY about changing the CCM
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End letter is all that matters and whether its for 2 or 4dr vehicles. Make sure you get UK/EU one with 434MHz freq for our remotes. US have different frequency.
I had a BT 2dr version which I just sold! Would have kept it for you had I known earlier! :sad1:
Hope that helps you Vlad!
Omar
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Cheers Omar! :notworthy:
I guess this is ok, right?
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2F00%2Fs%2FOTAwWDE2MDA%3D%2Fz%2FvMAAAOxyIYhSWYAl%2F%24%28KGrHqRHJE0FJIh-wkVUBSWY%21kfeGw%7E%7E60_57.JPG&hash=c80344e44ceea692830e30b5ed925f642f50e4b5)
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Cheers Omar! :notworthy:
I guess this is ok, right?
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2F00%2Fs%2FOTAwWDE2MDA%3D%2Fz%2FvMAAAOxyIYhSWYAl%2F%24%28KGrHqRHJE0FJIh-wkVUBSWY%21kfeGw%7E%7E60_57.JPG&hash=c80344e44ceea692830e30b5ed925f642f50e4b5)
Yep thats fine. Say 2 Tuerer (2dr) and MAX (highline)
Will need to reprogram lock/unlock on key fob, transfer coding with VCDS and then job done! Enjoy your extra convenience menu :happy2:
Omar
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Omar, all the CCM I saw on ebay (my code included) have "MAX" written on them.
Are you sure that MAX = highline?
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Omar, all the CCM I saw on ebay (my code included) have "MAX" written on them.
Are you sure that MAX = highline?
Sorry I didnt know that, I take that back. BT is a highline part number though.
See this thread: BK 2dr version is used here:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=67849.0 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=67849.0)
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Thanks Omar!
Ordered the CCM, hope it works :happy2:.
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No problemo! :smiley:
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Well, I installed the new CCM today.
The hardware installation is fairly simple (I used this (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3604801-DIY-hi-line-cluster) tutorial).
Old:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff469%2Fvladpanut%2Fsite_P2219007_zpshcvplp1w.jpg&hash=0121ca35dcfe90b759c5cf405cba6ea838ab6e40) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/vladpanut/media/site_P2219007_zpshcvplp1w.jpg.html)
New:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff469%2Fvladpanut%2Fsite_P2188992_zpsl1agui6d.jpg&hash=3780effc2fc58c59d1ace33da92a7b63febd5117) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/vladpanut/media/site_P2188992_zpsl1agui6d.jpg.html)
But coding the new Central Convenience Module was quite difficult.
By seeing @kevinm (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1725) coding (in this (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=24735.0) topic), I got mine working. I modified a few information (like LHD/RHD) and a few other bits but the majority is the same.
Still, I can't access the comfort menu :sad1:
From what I read, I have the highline Convenience/Comfort Control Module (CCCM), the highline Central Electronics Control Module (CECM) and highline Instrument Cluster.
Isn't this enough?
Do I also need the MFSW steering wheel computer?
Here is a full scan of my car:
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.0
Data version: 20111111
Saturday,21,February,2015,17:59:55:37412
Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8W161242 Mileage: 51150km/31783miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine (CAX) Labels: 03C-906-022-CAX.clb
Part No SW: 03C 906 022 J HW: 03C 906 022 J
Component: MED17.5.20 G 9471
Revision: D3H05--- Serial number: VWX7Z0G93NP08Z
Coding: 0000072
Shop #: WSC 10133 599 10455
VCID: 234F9E28E2CEE76
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
Component: ASR FRONT MK70 0105
Coding: 0017025
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3F8732586E66A36
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 ER HW: 5K0 907 044 ER
Component: Climatronic H18 1112
Revision: 00001004
Coding: 0000000004
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
ROD: EV_Climatronic_VW36.rod
VCID: 7F077258E6E6636
2 Faults Found:
13701456 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
- 50 [009]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 18
Reset counter: 174
Mileage: 51147 km
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 14:17:25
9479189 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
- 15 [009]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 22
Reset counter: 174
Mileage: 51147 km
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 14:17:25
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2202
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 01000007715124
Coding: 910C0E070004100F47140000140000000008BF0F3C000100000000000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 785 00200
VCID: 71E3A46068B2056
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 301007 021 0501
Coding: 00038805
Shop #: WSC 12345
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T HW: 1K0 909 605 T
Component: 37 AIRBAG VW8 020 2300
Revision: 05020000 Serial number: 0038PD1K0SS/
Coding: 0013111
Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
VCID: 3D7B4850646AB16
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BN HW: 1K0 953 549 BN
Component: J0527 051 0100
Coding: 0000042
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 7F0772582EE6636
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1K6 920 874 B HW: 1K6 920 874 B
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 2416
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0G93NP08Z
Coding: 0001103
Shop #: WSC 10133 599 90748
VCID: 32616B6CAD347EE
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H07 0052
Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 211007F2001627
Coding: E9801F060002020000
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 30656164A3384CE
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 1K6 920 874 B HW: 1K6 920 874 B
Component: IMMO VDD 2416
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0G93NP08Z
Shop #: WSC 28283 001 1048576
VCID: 32616B6CAD347EE
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1207
Coding: 0000052
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 387559444B4894E
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.068 H08 1901
Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
VCID: 356B50705C5A696
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0204
Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 98900A085103087F2D0285057008CA0180B800
Shop #: WSC 00066 785 00200
VCID: 830F7EA8C20E876
Component: Sounder n.mounted
Component: NGS n.mounted
Component: IRUE n.mounted
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1207
Coding: 0000052
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 39735C4070428D6
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio (J0503) Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 3C8 035 195 A HW: 3C8 035 195 A
Component: Radio RCD510 040 0166
Revision: 00000001 Serial number: VWZ1Z3K8982139
Coding: 0101000001
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
VCID: 2649873C51FC12E
2 Faults Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 173
Mileage: 51147 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 14:17:43
02877 - Digital Radio Antenna (R183)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 173
Mileage: 51147 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 14:17:43
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Any advice is much appreciated :notworthy:
@Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) , @omeydz (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5522) any thoughts?
P.S. The errors I get are from the Mk6 Climate control and the missing Air Quality Sensor, and from the small antenna I have fitted. So never mind these :)
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Nobody? :sad1: :sad1:
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We're you able to access the menu on the old module?
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No, because the old module was midline and did not have that capability.
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have you made sure your coding looks like this for byte 18
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fzz45%2FSI-R32%2Fccm_zps185d6cb5.jpg&hash=9e9558c2edd1fed1f4daf10726f9405a240b17cc)
sorry just checked your coding and its same as mine at the end
was the highline instrument cluster standard or have you had that changed as well
why did you find it hard to program it? what specific things did you change you mention rhd lhd you should just be able to program it quite easily?
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Thanks for your post!
Yes, it is looking just like that.
It was difficult to code because I had a VCDS clone and I don't see all the bits (just like you see in the printscreen you posted where bits 0-4 are not visible).
First I went on each page and modified the coding by adding the same ticks as my previous one (I made screenshots of the original coding).
This ended in a wrong coding where, if I close the doors, the boot would pop open. When opening the boot the gas cap would also open. :confused:
Than I deleted all the bytes and only ticked the ones I had. This resulted in not being able to open the boot at all :grin:
Than, in the end, I copied kevinm's coding, made the RHD-LHD modification, boot pop and the last byte (he had fast scrolling active).
His coding: 989002085103087F2D0285057008DAC6909840
My coding: 98900A085103087F2D0285057008CA0180B800
Now everything is functional and as it was but I still don't have the Comfort Menu available :sad1:.
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sometimes unticking the box alone won't allow the convenience to work
in the coding box
copy the whole coding from the box and paste it in the box below
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Thank you, Eddie!
I will try that when I get home.
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Not working :sad1:.
Any other ideas, please? :ashamed:
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Just code the module with 819002085103087F2D02040570085AC690BC00
then code it back to what you have now
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Still not working :sad1:
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Did you get to put a steering wheel module in
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No, I have the OEM one.
I am not sure I need one. Do I need another steering module?
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Doesn't look like u need to change I have a 5 door I'll post up my code see if that helps
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989008085103087F2D000F0FF0085FC6F0A440 This is my 4 door coding
My steering and instruments are the same as yours
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Still not workink. :(
Could you please give me the coding for the other modules?
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Do you get the lights and vision menu from the cecm?
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Nope... No extra menu :(.
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OK so another few questions that may not sound related, do you have a 510 or similar that displays audio and or nav in the highline
Can you flick through various screens of anything or only the on board computer
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Yes, I have a RCD 510.
I can't access anything on the bord computer except the normal consumption, distance, speed warning, etc.
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Could someone who has this working post the whole scan of the car?
I am trying to find out if there are issues with the CAN Gateway, Instruments, etc
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Could someone who has this working post the whole scan of the car?
I am trying to find out if there are issues with the CAN Gateway, Instruments, etc
that won't fix it
the issue is with the module
disconnect the battery terminals and hold them together
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Not working either. :sad1:
@Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) what module is not ok?
Since I have no secondary menu, could the cluser or the CAN be the issue?
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Why are you swapping it anyway Rex?
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Not working either. :sad1:
@Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) what module is not ok?
Since I have no secondary menu, could the cluser or the CAN be the issue?
do you have a highline?
if you do do you get other menus? like nav or set up?
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@Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) I can't see any menus.
I have a large display (that is highline, right?)
The instrument cluster code is 1K6 920 874 B:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff469%2Fvladpanut%2Fsite_P5298873_zps06cd9912.jpg&hash=018923b55186adc9e3579221f0c0b63331b4c5e3) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/vladpanut/media/site_P5298873_zps06cd9912.jpg.html)
I have a full scan on the first page of the topic.
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Why are you swapping it anyway Rex?
I want to buy the Revo SPS PRO and I need to be able to acces the menus.
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Do I need to buy a MFSW in order to be able to access the menus?
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Hi Vlad. If you cant hold down button to access the main menu options then you need mfsw to see menu options like lights and vision, convenience, time settings and units etc.
Its in this menu/button that you will find your menus. :happy2:
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Than I guess it's a cluster issue, right?
I never wanted mfsw but it looks like I need one if I want to get the menus working...
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Than I guess it's a cluster issue, right?
I never wanted mfsw but it looks like I need one if I want to get the menus working...
Afraid so. Its impossible to tell just from the label on the instrument cluster if it will work with or without mfsw. Just luck eh!