MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Apowers on February 20, 2015, 09:00:42 pm

Title: Lag on Ed30
Post by: Apowers on February 20, 2015, 09:00:42 pm: Been told there noticeabley more lag on an ed 30 vs standard GTi, is this a well known thing?
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: oHUTCHYo on February 20, 2015, 09:15:44 pm: I'm by no means an expert, but it's a bigger turbo which does typically mean more lag. That's why you see many modern sports cars with two turbos, a smaller one and then a larger one.

I stand to be corrected of course :wink:
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: Dave J on February 20, 2015, 09:53:54 pm: I have no idea. Try both before you buy!
If the ED30 is slower in lower RPM, then it sure makes up for it in the dash to the redline...
I'd be quite happy for a car to be slow in town at low rpm, and then a bit tasty everywhere else.
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: Tortaruga on February 20, 2015, 09:57:13 pm: I think this is true.

Best buy would be an R32 as they have no lag whatsoever.
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: Apowers on February 20, 2015, 10:06:37 pm: Been suggested that needs to be tuned to make it less laggy
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: Apowers on February 20, 2015, 10:07:41 pm: Considering a r32 also but the boots smaller due to 4wd system. Need to fit a pram and other crap unfortunately
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: john87 on February 20, 2015, 10:21:21 pm: Quote from: Apowers on February 20, 2015, 10:07:41 pm
Considering a r32 also but the boots smaller due to 4wd system. Need to fit a pram and other crap unfortunately

Yeah but not much smaller, maybe 2 inch less depth :wink:
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: LMc on February 20, 2015, 10:24:41 pm: The only thing the R32 has over the eddy is the sound.
Just a stage 1 eddy is different league for performance but different strokes for different folks.
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on February 20, 2015, 11:02:50 pm: Quote from: Apowers on February 20, 2015, 09:00:42 pm
Been told there noticeabley more lag on an ed 30 vs standard GTi, is this a well known thing?

No. I think your the first to discover this :signLOL:

The bigger K04 turbo has its power band higher in the Rev range than the K03 (GTI) turbo. At low revs it can be a little laggier. . .

With a 3in downpipe and an intake (with a remap) you will get almost instant throttle response. A good excuse to modify :drinking:
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: GTIEagles on February 20, 2015, 11:07:27 pm: Put it this way, if I could afford an Edition 30 I would have had one, I would definitely sacrifice a bit of low down torque for more top end power. Since having my GTI I discovered I definitely prefer to rev an engine out than to rely on torque.
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: rich83 on February 21, 2015, 09:49:15 am: Quote from: Tortaruga on February 20, 2015, 09:57:13 pm
I think this is true.

Best buy would be an R32 as they have no lag whatsoever.

They also have no power either :smiley:
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: Beej on February 21, 2015, 10:12:41 am: Quote from: cnut on February 20, 2015, 11:07:27 pm
Put it this way, if I could afford an Edition 30 I would have had one, I would definitely sacrifice a bit of low down torque for more top end power. Since having my GTI I discovered I definitely prefer to rev an engine out than to rely on torque.
I too would have bought one if funds had allowed. As to the enjoyment of revving an engine-that's why I have a bike
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: TaylorGTi on February 21, 2015, 11:11:21 am: Coming from a stage 1 gti to a standard eddy I'd agree BUT my eddy is standard and pulls so much harder to the redline! Once remapped with downpipe intake it'll be a different story :happy2:
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: garrardrj on February 21, 2015, 04:03:18 pm: When i had an ED30 i bought my son a Standard GTI both were manual gearboxes . I drove both regularly . The GTI was in my opinion a more sensible everyday car to drive with no real hesitation and power was pretty good without having to rev it too hard . The ED30 was more torquey and was a little sluggish at lower revs , as the revs built then the power didn't come with a rush as you knew it was coming but it was noticeably quicker to 60 - 100 keeping the revs up . Had the bluefin remap on and off depending what i was doing on the ED30 , the best thing you could do for £300 (bought off another forum member) and transformed the car and the acceleration was noticeably quicker.....
Title: Re: Lag on Ed30
Post by: GTIEagles on February 21, 2015, 05:44:10 pm: Does anyone have any rolling road graphs of a completely standard GTI as well as ED30 for comparison? Would be interesting to see them overlayed against one another.