MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: TaylorGTi on February 26, 2015, 09:53:05 pm
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Sourcing parts for stage 2+ on my Pirelli and am wondering weather the s3 intercooler is an effective upgrade to support stage 2+
Cheers
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Meant to be good for 400 ponies but S3 owners have upgraded to bigger set ups, however for the price its a good upgrade.
Alloy ended is the one to go for too :happy2:
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Seen one in classfieds but under weather just to do it and go for a peron or THS
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Hey mate,after u finished doing stg2+,u will want more so it makes sense if u buy a better cooler from the start
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Plenty of stage 2+ ed30s making good power with S3 intercooler. One today made 357bhp (rtech)
unless you are chasing numbers the S3 is fine
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stage 2+ is more than enough I think..... Until I get bored :star:
Cheers
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fwiw one former ed30 owner (Sunglasses Ron) ran revo stage 2+ with the standard IC and dynoed 355bhp
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And just to clarify we are talking about the S3 intercooler with alloy end tanks not plastic. :happy2:
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What's the difference between alloy ends and plastic
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What i think some of you are forgetting is the purpose of the intercooler... i.e. to keep things cool. A decent setup will (and has made)360hp on the OE intercooler....... For one run! After that it will be far too hot and will pull back timing etc as a result. It's not just about the numbers you make but how repeatable they are.
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I think normal road use the are fine.
I have one on my Edition at 2+ @ 360 ish,I did notice some loss of power on track as the day went on at an open pit lane but thats giving it welly reaching 140/150 on one straight also I won best in my class @ Inters on the Sunday doing the quarter mile so not too shabby,it was a very hot day and you are sitting waiting in the queue for half an hour before getting your turn.
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Yeah I don't really track cars at the moment so all I'm after is a reliable intercooler that does its job! I'd rather hold back slightly on number to alround have a better driving car.
Are there different part numbers or alloy and plastic end s3 intercoolers?
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I will tell you s3 cooler is suffice but a £1 cooler which is a ths copy is even better value for money as tried and tested and mapped by Nikki r tech my black painted ths copy made 360bhp with 380 Torque need I say more!!!!
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I will tell you s3 cooler is suffice but a £1 cooler which is a ths copy is even better value for money as tried and tested and mapped by Nikki r tech my black painted ths copy made 360bhp with 380 Torque need I say more!!!!
Well yes you do need to say more as its not about power its about keeping it there for a length of time
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So basically cause I don't track a s3 cooler is effective enough for a stage 2+ to hold temps down on road...
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If you did track it'd cope so yes
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I run stage 4 with GTX3071R at 450bhp and have done for a few years with the S3, it will be fine
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I will tell you s3 cooler is suffice but a £1 cooler which is a ths copy is even better value for money as tried and tested and mapped by Nikki r tech my black painted ths copy made 360bhp with 380 Torque need I say more!!!!
Well yes you do need to say more as its not about power its about keeping it there for a length of time
I will add that whilst mapping Nikki ran the car up a number of times and no increase in temperatures so the ths copy held great cool temps
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If you don't track yours I'm not sure it's worth the outlay. It'll help you hold max power for longer by helping to prevent issues like heat soak etc but It won't give you more power, only prevent you from losing it. Spend the cash on suspension or brakes if you haven't already.
But for info, S3 cooler is fine for stage 2+. I run one at 340hp and have done numerous track days and never suffered power loss or any issues related to it.
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I'm also interested in this topic, along with the question about the main difference between plastic ends and alloy ends. I have a plastic end S3 intercooler (which I got rather cheap) so curious as to why people don't normally go for them...
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usually stronger, less likely to blow the side tanks off...doesn't happen often either way.
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Fair enough, did assume that plastic on metal never be as strong as full metal, kind of a given. On a K03 engine like mine I can't see the need for a THS or Peron one until I either dedicate the car to the track or go stage 3. Barely even justify a CAI to be honest!
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Exactly :)
that being said a CAI is what, £300, good gains of around 10bhp and makes the difference when mapped. And darth vader noise.
Who wouldn't pay £300 for that.
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Exactly :)
that being said a CAI is what, £300, good gains of around 10bhp and makes the difference when mapped. And darth vader noise.
Who wouldn't pay £300 for that.
Me... Because I'd pay half that for the RamAir CAI. If someone can prove that a £300 intake gets me dou me the gains of the RamAir then I'll admit I'm a pikie. Otherwise expensive CAI on K03 engines is a bit of a waste in my opinion.