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All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: flashp on March 04, 2015, 03:53:47 pm

Title: Superpro ball joints
Post by: flashp on March 04, 2015, 03:53:47 pm: These are an economical solution to getting -'ve camber adjustment but are they robust enough for track use?
I've no experience of them so I'd be grateful for any input from users of these.

No point in phoning retailers as they wouldn't say 'Yeah, we sell those, they're sh*t'. :signLOL:

I do track days maybe 6 or 7 times a year and need something that can stand up to this and not be problematic.

Thanks. :drinking:
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: rich83 on March 04, 2015, 03:55:30 pm: I dont see why not flash. One thing you do get with these is a tendency to very slightly (and i mean very) wander when driving in a straight-line (ie motorway)
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: xjay1337 on March 04, 2015, 04:10:59 pm: I've never noticed that above.
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: rich83 on March 04, 2015, 04:16:43 pm: Hence the reiteration of "very slight"
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: scopes on March 04, 2015, 05:05:46 pm: But surely it could be fixed with a few goes on the alignment ???

These also effect big brake kits...
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: rich83 on March 04, 2015, 05:12:40 pm: Quote from: scopes on March 04, 2015, 05:05:46 pm
But surely it could be fixed with a few goes on the alignment ???

These also effect big brake kits...

Correct... mine had to be ground down a bit.
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: flashp on March 04, 2015, 05:45:46 pm: Hmmm...my discs will be 355mm x 32 thick.
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: scopes on March 04, 2015, 05:57:47 pm: Quote from: rich83 on March 04, 2015, 05:12:40 pm
Quote from: scopes on March 04, 2015, 05:05:46 pm
But surely it could be fixed with a few goes on the alignment ???

These also effect big brake kits...

Correct... mine had to be ground down a bit.

Good idea :happy2:

I wonder could it be the fact they are adjustable, they could move slightly ? :scared:
I have thought about making some kind of shim to fit in the gap, so they deffo will not move.

Also, did you notice much difference when you fitted these, I changed lots of parts over at the same time, so i find it hard to say

Quote from: flashp on March 04, 2015, 05:45:46 pm
Hmmm...my discs will be 355mm x 32 thick.

You might just get away with it...
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: rich83 on March 04, 2015, 05:59:41 pm: They are just "bulker" than the OEM ones. The adjustment doesnt effect the adjust clearance.

You might be ok with those discs... depends on the offset.
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: flashp on March 08, 2015, 08:28:03 pm: Quote from: rich83 on March 04, 2015, 03:55:30 pm
I dont see why not flash. One thing you do get with these is a tendency to very slightly (and i mean very) wander when driving in a straight-line (ie motorway)
When you say wander do you mean tram lining?
I'd like to try understand what exactly happens to cause this as I know certain elements of the geometry (aside from camber) change. Track I believe is affected and roll centres can change for example.

Have you tracked yours with these fitted?

Not after looks, just function.
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: rich83 on March 08, 2015, 08:43:15 pm: Well the function really well. In terms of increasing grip mid corner they do that, due to the added camber. I think what I have mentioned above is me being very critical. It just doesn't feel quite as "locked in" on the motorway as I remember, but my subframe is still causing me grief so it could be that!
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: flashp on March 08, 2015, 09:26:13 pm: Thanks for that Rich, I think I'll give AKS a ring and order a set tomorrow. Sounds like they'll be OK.
By how much is yours lowered, if at all?
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: rich83 on March 08, 2015, 10:07:20 pm: 30mm
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: dan930 on March 09, 2015, 02:11:21 am: Quote from: rich83 on March 04, 2015, 05:12:40 pm
Quote from: scopes on March 04, 2015, 05:05:46 pm
But surely it could be fixed with a few goes on the alignment ???

These also effect big brake kits...

Correct... mine had to be ground down a bit.

Yes...the ball joints will hit the brake discs if u have a BBK fitted...
Best to call alex
Title: Re: Superpro ball joints
Post by: rich83 on March 17, 2015, 06:15:20 pm: Seems all back to normal.. no funny 'straying' on motorways now. Must have been all the f*cking about with the subframe! :happy2: