MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: mvb12 on March 12, 2015, 08:43:20 pm

Title: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: mvb12 on March 12, 2015, 08:43:20 pm: Whats needed to get these working on our cars if at all possible. :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: mvb12 on March 16, 2015, 07:10:11 pm: :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: TForrest94 on March 16, 2015, 10:09:45 pm: Would hill hold not need an electric hand brake instead of a hydrolic?
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: Matto on March 16, 2015, 10:28:16 pm: Quote from: TForrest94 on March 16, 2015, 10:09:45 pm
Would hill hold not need an electric hand brake instead of a hydrolic?

No. Our Caddy works van has hill hold but still a conventional hand brake. Think it is down to the newer ABS units.
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: TForrest94 on March 17, 2015, 07:49:22 am: Quote from: Matto on March 16, 2015, 10:28:16 pm
Quote from: TForrest94 on March 16, 2015, 10:09:45 pm
Would hill hold not need an electric hand brake instead of a hydrolic?

No. Our Caddy works van has hill hold but still a conventional hand brake. Think it is down to the newer ABS units.

Ahgood to know all the ones ive come across are electric, seems like it will be a long old job to get it functioning
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: john87 on March 17, 2015, 09:53:49 am: Yeah as mentioned, the system would need a 'mk6' generation ABS unit and the associated gradient/inclination sensors.
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: J400uk on March 17, 2015, 06:43:58 pm: As above hill hold is Mk6 only

Not sure on high beam assist but its likely to be a similar story, only the late Mk6s have the right stalk for it so Mk5 probably won't.
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: mvb12 on March 17, 2015, 06:45:10 pm: Quote from: john87 on March 17, 2015, 09:53:49 am
Yeah as mentioned, the system would need a 'mk6' generation ABS unit and the associated gradient/inclination sensors.

What sensors we talking about mate. Do all mk6 golfs have this hill hold function?
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: omeydz on March 17, 2015, 07:22:43 pm: Marv I thought I showed you this stuff on my car when you came over last?

RE Hill hold - need a later MK6 ABS pump. Early MK6s dont have hill hold assist.

RE Highbeam assist - Need upgraded canbus and potentially new Central electrics, Modify indicator stalk and obviously highbeam assist mirror and wiring.
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: mvb12 on March 17, 2015, 07:42:54 pm: I think you did mate :laugh:

So for hill hold we need a mk6 abs pump and a bit of vag com to enable?

Is it only the rocco that has the required mirror or does a mk6 golf have it too?

When you say modify indicator stalk what exactly you mean.....
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: omeydz on March 17, 2015, 07:58:02 pm: Yep late MK6 ABS but need bit more than VAGCOM for coding.. @Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) can chime in on the long coding details

Can get golf HBA mirror but one wasnt available at the time for me so i got Rocco one.

RE switch - the indicator stalk needs to spring back when you push it (momentary highbeam) and on MK5 it stays back which wont work for HBA.. read this:

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/298216-retrofitting-high-beam-assistent/ (http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/298216-retrofitting-high-beam-assistent/)
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: john87 on March 18, 2015, 12:42:02 pm: Quote from: mvb12 on March 17, 2015, 07:42:54 pm
I think you did mate :laugh:

So for hill hold we need a mk6 abs pump and a bit of vag com to enable?

Is it only the rocco that has the required mirror or does a mk6 golf have it too?

When you say modify indicator stalk what exactly you mean.....

The reason I mentioned the sensors is because my mk6 only held the brakes on reasonable inclines. Very minor inclines did not prompt the system to activate.. so there must be some sort of level sensor involved
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: SI-R32 on March 18, 2015, 03:15:23 pm: The abs unit has all the sensors built in they are not external, I have changed my mk60 mk5 abs to the mk60ec1 my6 unit and hill hold works perfectly
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: john87 on March 18, 2015, 09:15:55 pm: Quote from: SI-R32 on March 18, 2015, 03:15:23 pm
The abs unit has all the sensors built in they are not external, I have changed my mk60 mk5 abs to the mk60ec1 my6 unit and hill hold works perfectly

I stand corrected! :drinking: :happy2:
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: omeydz on March 18, 2015, 10:13:32 pm: In VCDS you can adjust how much assist you want. Higher the assist the the more likely to hold on lesser inclines and for longer.
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: mvb12 on March 20, 2015, 08:13:47 am: Quote from: SI-R32 on March 18, 2015, 03:15:23 pm
The abs unit has all the sensors built in they are not external, I have changed my mk60 mk5 abs to the mk60ec1 my6 unit and hill hold works perfectly

whats the part number on the ABS pump as I assume mk6 cars carry different ABS Units?
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: omeydz on March 20, 2015, 06:11:12 pm: Mine is 1K0 907 379 BE from factory
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on March 20, 2015, 09:25:47 pm: Is it possible to get the XDS system from the MK6 GTI, GTD & Rocco working on the mk5? @Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) ??

Must be lots cheaper than a proper diff, and about 75% as good :drool:

I would have thought ABS module / pump or something similar?
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: Shoduchi on March 21, 2015, 02:36:50 am: Quote from: GrayMK5GTI on March 20, 2015, 09:25:47 pm
Is it possible to get the XDS system from the MK6 GTI, GTD & Rocco working on the mk5? @Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) ??

Must be lots cheaper than a proper diff, and about 75% as good :drool:

I would have thought ABS module / pump or something similar?
I'd like to know the answer as well. :smiley:
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: Matto on March 21, 2015, 08:55:16 am: Quote from: Shoduchi on March 21, 2015, 02:36:50 am
Quote from: GrayMK5GTI on March 20, 2015, 09:25:47 pm
Is it possible to get the XDS system from the MK6 GTI, GTD & Rocco working on the mk5? @Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) ??

Must be lots cheaper than a proper diff, and about 75% as good :drool:

I would have thought ABS module / pump or something similar?
I'd like to know the answer as well. :smiley:

I came here to ask the very same question. @SI-R32 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1757)?
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: Shoduchi on May 17, 2015, 10:43:01 am: Bump!
@Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) @Si_r32 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3698)
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: SI-R32 on May 27, 2015, 02:07:11 am: have a look through this

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,82155.0.html

ignore all the parts your not interested in and just look at the info on the ABS unit, yes XDS does work and hill hold assist.

as for the high beam thing, no idea sorry
Title: Re: High Beam assist and Hill Hold
Post by: Matto on May 28, 2015, 06:44:50 pm: Quote from: SI-R32 on May 27, 2015, 02:07:11 am
have a look through this

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,82155.0.html

ignore all the parts your not interested in and just look at the info on the ABS unit, yes XDS does work and hill hold assist.

as for the high beam thing, no idea sorry

Quite involved then :sad1: