MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Poverty on November 29, 2009, 02:58:57 pm
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A little while ago, someone said that they had converted their GTI to haldex. Any more news on this?
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Ben from Shark was planning on doing this to his octy II, I know of a complete front and rear subframe / propshaft of an R32 down the side of somebodys house who's missus is giving him grief over it!!!
Ive also got some R32 rear hubs you can have if it helps - just pay postage!!!!!!
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Ben from Shark was planning on doing this to his octy II, I know of a complete front and rear subframe / propshaft of an R32 down the side of somebodys house who's missus is giving him grief over it!!!
Ive also got some R32 rear hubs you can have if it helps - just pay postage!!!!!!
lol never said I want to do it to mine, but you guessed correctly, its an option I am looking at. Just need to get some rough prices to see whether it would be worthwhile to me, or whether to just put the money towards a TT-RS instead.
Love the way the K1 looks, just the k04 isnt giving me enough power, and with more power I would like the tractability of 4wd. :happy2:
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dans 400 odd horses puts power down ok in FWD..
:P
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dans 400 odd horses puts power down ok in FWD..
:P
Yeah dans diff and other chassis mods put down the power better than my k04 did at 300hp never mind 360hp.
However I need like near 500hp dude. Speed freak :jumping:
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dans 400 odd horses puts power down ok in FWD..
:P
Yeah dans diff and other chassis mods put down the power better than my k04 did at 300hp never mind 360hp.
However I need like near 500hp dude. Speed freak :jumping:
serious :fighting:
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dans 400 odd horses puts power down ok in FWD..
:P
Yeah dans diff and other chassis mods put down the power better than my k04 did at 300hp never mind 360hp.
However I need like near 500hp dude. Speed freak :jumping:
serious :fighting:
You know how it goes, get used to the power and all that. Need more go now. 4WD Cupra would be rare and cool, big turbo TT-RS would be nie too, but would prefer to haldex the cupra, BT it, and redo the whole interior. Just need to know if to haldex the cupra makes financial sense over a tt-rs
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do you not want to try a limited slip diff and some engine mounts first,? that paired with some pilot sport cups should give you a sh*te load of traction
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Would be an awesome car mate with haldex, the tt-rs will just be another tt!
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do you not want to try a limited slip diff and some engine mounts first,? that paired with some pilot sport cups should give you a sh*te load of traction
Tried DanGB's car and it was awesome how easily it put the power to the floor, but I want to dispatch high power in all different types of weather conditions.
Plus it would be different as jules says.
Im basically at the cross roads with this car. Either take it up to a mental level of power, or get something quicker out of the box and mess with that.
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buy something else that is quicker/more powerful out of the box and be done with it.
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buy something else that is quicker/more powerful out of the box and be done with it.
Trouble is alot of the more powerful cars ive been looking at are so heavy! Whenever I try to think of what to go for next I always come back to thinking evo 8, strip it out, do a BT on that and keep the cupra as a everyday car.
Or 997 Carrera S with a charger
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4WD = weight full stop...unless u do some stripping!
Carrera S with charger? why?
Might aswell buy a GT2 or Turbo!
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do you not want to try a limited slip diff and some engine mounts first,? that paired with some pilot sport cups should give you a sh*te load of traction
Mine is having this next week. Already have R888's ready for next season too :innocent:
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I agree about the weight penalty for Haldex!
Tried lifting the the rear drive shaft and transfer box and you soon know where the weight is :scared:
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Is the floor pan on the gti the same as on the R - this could be a very interesting project, could be tempted by this !
Regards,
Gareth
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Bit of weight over the back axle wouldn't hurt in some cases and also has a benefit in that the weight is lower in the car and therefore would counter the increased weight of a big turbo and pipework that would raise the c of g.
Lower vertical c of g = less weight transfer so to get the same weight transfer you can brake later and harder without overwhelming the contact patch
You'll be needing brakes that will probably give an increase in weight over the stock S3/Cupra kit to cope with the additional capability in terms of corner arrival speed and heat generation..
500BHP is achievable but will hurt like a bitch, better to aim for 400-450 and have the reliability/traction/driveability, there are some 50 page build threads over on SCN about this and its months of a job with lots of off road time and a 5 figure budget and not always with good results.
A 4WD cupra will be a unique car and a big player on the show scene if thats where you want to go with it
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Bit of weight over the back axle wouldn't hurt in some cases and also has a benefit in that the weight is lower in the car and therefore would counter the increased weight of a big turbo and pipework that would raise the c of g.
Lower vertical c of g = less weight transfer so to get the same weight transfer you can brake later and harder without overwhelming the contact patch
You'll be needing brakes that will probably give an increase in weight over the stock S3/Cupra kit to cope with the additional capability in terms of corner arrival speed and heat generation..
500BHP is achievable but will hurt like a bitch, better to aim for 400-450 and have the reliability/traction/driveability, there are some 50 page build threads over on SCN about this and its months of a job with lots of off road time and a 5 figure budget and not always with good results.
A 4WD cupra will be a unique car and a big player on the show scene if thats where you want to go with it
450hp would be nice, 400 wouldnt satisfy me though.
Would love to get the car up to show spec, mags etc.
4WD = weight full stop...unless u do some stripping!
Carrera S with charger? why?
Might aswell buy a GT2 or Turbo!
Price. Carrera S about 35k, another 7k for the charger kit. Actually the charger kit will bump the normal 911 carrera up to the same power as a charged 911.
Obviously I have a dilema? What car is good round corners, and is quicker than a stage 2 plus k04 without costing 80-90k?
Is the floor pan on the gti the same as on the R - this could be a very interesting project, could be tempted by this !
Regards,
Gareth
The canadians have done it, they cut the boot floor and had to make it shallower, and re-run the the exhaust system. Tbh it doesnt look all that complicated, but then again, is the wheelbase for the leon and the golf 100% the same?
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Why don't you just chop yours and get a second hand S3, they seem to be going for resonable prices now. Let's say £20k for one throw £10-15k at it in mods and you will have a serious weapon without having to go through the hassle of making your Cupra 4WD. I know the Cupra would be unique but there aint many sorted BT S3's in the UK :happy2:
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Why don't you just chop yours and get a second hand S3, they seem to be going for resonable prices now. Let's say £20k for one throw £10-15k at it in mods and you will have a serious weapon without having to go through the hassle of making your Cupra 4WD. I know the Cupra would be unique but there aint many sorted BT S3's in the UK :happy2:
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Bit of weight over the back axle wouldn't hurt in some cases and also has a benefit in that the weight is lower in the car and therefore would counter the increased weight of a big turbo and pipework that would raise the c of g.
Lower vertical c of g = less weight transfer so to get the same weight transfer you can brake later and harder without overwhelming the contact patch
You'll be needing brakes that will probably give an increase in weight over the stock S3/Cupra kit to cope with the additional capability in terms of corner arrival speed and heat generation..
500BHP is achievable but will hurt like a bitch, better to aim for 400-450 and have the reliability/traction/driveability, there are some 50 page build threads over on SCN about this and its months of a job with lots of off road time and a 5 figure budget and not always with good results.
A 4WD cupra will be a unique car and a big player on the show scene if thats where you want to go with it
450hp would be nice, 400 wouldnt satisfy me though.
Would love to get the car up to show spec, mags etc.
4WD = weight full stop...unless u do some stripping!
Carrera S with charger? why?
Might aswell buy a GT2 or Turbo!
Price. Carrera S about 35k, another 7k for the charger kit. Actually the charger kit will bump the normal 911 carrera up to the same power as a charged 911.
Obviously I have a dilema? What car is good round corners, and is quicker than a stage 2 plus k04 without costing 80-90k?
Bloody hell mate, what do you do for a job to afford a 911? Arent you younger than me?
They are a bitch to run (the wheels are over £1k each) If you can afford it though good on you, go for it i say :happy2:
Quite a few cars quicker than a stage 2 plus ko4 mate that will handle well but none as new or as nice as yours
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1154304.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1342512.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1290817.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1356516.htm
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Why don't you just chop yours and get a second hand S3, they seem to be going for resonable prices now. Let's say £20k for one throw £10-15k at it in mods and you will have a serious weapon without having to go through the hassle of making your Cupra 4WD. I know the Cupra would be unique but there aint many sorted BT S3's in the UK :happy2:
Well it was between the S3 and the cupra when I was looking, but went for the k1 due to its more boy racier looks, and because of weight, and thinking that 300hp would be enough for me, but now it turns out stage 2 plus isnt enough.
I mean to convert to haldex should cost about 5k wouldnt it? At that price it would still make sense to me to keep the cupra instead of upgrading to a older S3.
Bit of weight over the back axle wouldn't hurt in some cases and also has a benefit in that the weight is lower in the car and therefore would counter the increased weight of a big turbo and pipework that would raise the c of g.
Lower vertical c of g = less weight transfer so to get the same weight transfer you can brake later and harder without overwhelming the contact patch
You'll be needing brakes that will probably give an increase in weight over the stock S3/Cupra kit to cope with the additional capability in terms of corner arrival speed and heat generation..
500BHP is achievable but will hurt like a bitch, better to aim for 400-450 and have the reliability/traction/driveability, there are some 50 page build threads over on SCN about this and its months of a job with lots of off road time and a 5 figure budget and not always with good results.
A 4WD cupra will be a unique car and a big player on the show scene if thats where you want to go with it
450hp would be nice, 400 wouldnt satisfy me though.
Would love to get the car up to show spec, mags etc.
4WD = weight full stop...unless u do some stripping!
Carrera S with charger? why?
Might aswell buy a GT2 or Turbo!
Price. Carrera S about 35k, another 7k for the charger kit. Actually the charger kit will bump the normal 911 carrera up to the same power as a charged 911.
Obviously I have a dilema? What car is good round corners, and is quicker than a stage 2 plus k04 without costing 80-90k?
Bloody hell mate, what do you do for a job to afford a 911? Arent you younger than me?
They are a bitch to run (the wheels are over £1k each) If you can afford it though good on you, go for it i say :happy2:
Quite a few cars quicker than a stage 2 plus ko4 mate that will handle well but none as new or as nice as yours
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1154304.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1342512.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1290817.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1356516.htm
Nothing special mate im just a gas engineer, I live at home, and I can considerably bolster my basic annual wage through overtime weekends etc. Thats why I need to get something that will fulfill my desires fairly quickly, before I get kicked out of the nest and have to get a mortgage.
That evo is tempting, however im always dubious about how people spend so much money modifiying a car only to then sell it about 4 months later. Makes me wonder if there is something wrong with it.
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Evo 5 or an 92 plate onwards scoob with a total rebuild from the ground up. Cheaper, quicker, lighter and mental power. But alas that will not be enough for you after a few months of getting used to it either. Are you after straight line or corner fun?
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Evo 5 or an 92 plate onwards scoob with a total rebuild from the ground up. Cheaper, quicker, lighter and mental power. But alas that will not be enough for you after a few months of getting used to it either. Are you after straight line or corner fun?
Straight line and corner.
Had the k1 out tonight and it didnt feel rapid anymore, but rather just quick. :sad1:
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Evo 5 or an 92 plate onwards scoob with a total rebuild from the ground up. Cheaper, quicker, lighter and mental power. But alas that will not be enough for you after a few months of getting used to it either. Are you after straight line or corner fun?
Straight line and corner.
Had the k1 out tonight and it didnt feel rapid anymore, but rather just quick. :sad1:
A stage 2+ car isn't rapid.. (Im driving one myself now so im not having a go) It all depends what your comparing it to.. There is always going to be something faster out there anyways..
There is an easy way to make your car faster without adding any more power!
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Evo 5 or an 92 plate onwards scoob with a total rebuild from the ground up. Cheaper, quicker, lighter and mental power. But alas that will not be enough for you after a few months of getting used to it either. Are you after straight line or corner fun?
Straight line and corner.
Had the k1 out tonight and it didnt feel rapid anymore, but rather just quick. :sad1:
A stage 2+ car isn't rapid.. (Im driving one myself now so im not having a go) It all depends what your comparing it to.. There is always going to be something faster out there anyways..
There is an easy way to make your car faster without adding any more power!
Stage 2 plus is actually getting boring now. :sad1:
Stripping isnt an option for me unless I get something else
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Stage 2 plus is actually getting boring now. :sad1:
Stripping isnt an option for me unless I get something else
Hmm.. Well do the whole car, build the engine and throw a big turbo on it.. Or stop moaning and buy something fast lol :P
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Guess its just what you get use to, the 32 still feels bloody quick to me but i think its just the 'grip and go' feeling it always gives as it doesnt feel fast once i get moving.
Is it worth spending a fortune on a porsche only to lose money and get bored with it?
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do you not want to try a limited slip diff and some engine mounts first,? that paired with some pilot sport cups should give you a sh*te load of traction
....Wise words! As bacillus says: Power is useless without traction (or words to that effect).
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Guess its just what you get use to, the 32 still feels bloody quick to me but i think its just the 'grip and go' feeling it always gives as it doesnt feel fast once i get moving.
Is it worth spending a fortune on a porsche only to lose money and get bored with it?
you have a v6 that why. they sound fast.
few years back i had a audi coupe 2.6V6, it wasnt that fast but sounded awesome instead(shame it was like tacking a yacht when cornering, lol)
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Does anyone know of any companies that would undertake this conversion for me?
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Does anyone know of any companies that would undertake this conversion for me?
Andy @ ACR that built my car could do it easily.. There are plenty of people out there that would take the job on, but I think its more a question of who do YOU trust to do the work..
So would you go built motor and big turbo at the same time?
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Does anyone know of any companies that would undertake this conversion for me?
I was giving this serious thought when I was fed up in Afghanistan with a pile of money in the bank...
Maybe next time round eh :party:
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Does anyone know of any companies that would undertake this conversion for me?
Andy @ ACR that built my car could do it easily.. There are plenty of people out there that would take the job on, but I think its more a question of who do YOU trust to do the work..
So would you go built motor and big turbo at the same time?
Would do haldex first, then save up again for the other bits.
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Does anyone know of any companies that would undertake this conversion for me?
Andy @ ACR that built my car could do it easily.. There are plenty of people out there that would take the job on, but I think its more a question of who do YOU trust to do the work..
So would you go built motor and big turbo at the same time?
Would do haldex first, then save up again for the other bits.
If it was me I would do it the other way round, at least then you can get a taste of a big power FWD car, you may even decide you dont want to go 4WD.. There a lots of other ways of gaining traction without going 4wd..
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Does anyone know of any companies that would undertake this conversion for me?
Andy @ ACR that built my car could do it easily.. There are plenty of people out there that would take the job on, but I think its more a question of who do YOU trust to do the work..
So would you go built motor and big turbo at the same time?
Would do haldex first, then save up again for the other bits.
If it was me I would do it the other way round, at least then you can get a taste of a big power FWD car, you may even decide you dont want to go 4WD.. There a lots of other ways of gaining traction without going 4wd..
Is that what your going to be doing with your ed30 by chance :signLOL:
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Does anyone know of any companies that would undertake this conversion for me?
Andy @ ACR that built my car could do it easily.. There are plenty of people out there that would take the job on, but I think its more a question of who do YOU trust to do the work..
So would you go built motor and big turbo at the same time?
Would do haldex first, then save up again for the other bits.
If it was me I would do it the other way round, at least then you can get a taste of a big power FWD car, you may even decide you dont want to go 4WD.. There a lots of other ways of gaining traction without going 4wd..
Is that what your going to be doing with your ed30 by chance :signLOL:
Yep, S3 was 4WD and it was great.. Fancy a silly power FWD car now.. Seriously man, a FWD car with a well sorted chassis, proper suspension, big sticky tyres, plate diff etc etc etc will give any 4WD car a run for its money off the line..
Drag FWD cars will get down to low 1.7 60 foot times, 4WD is around 1.6 with the same power.. But once your rolling then the FWD car will just pull and pull because of the lack of weight and transmission losses associated with the 4WD system..
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Drag FWD cars will get down to low 1.7 60 foot times, 4WD is around 1.6 with the same power.. But once your rolling then the FWD car will just pull and pull because of the lack of weight and transmission losses associated with the 4WD system..
i have always protested and tried to tell people this when they dare to take the piss out of FWD :fighting:
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Does anyone know of any companies that would undertake this conversion for me?
Andy @ ACR that built my car could do it easily.. There are plenty of people out there that would take the job on, but I think its more a question of who do YOU trust to do the work..
So would you go built motor and big turbo at the same time?
Would do haldex first, then save up again for the other bits.
If it was me I would do it the other way round, at least then you can get a taste of a big power FWD car, you may even decide you dont want to go 4WD.. There a lots of other ways of gaining traction without going 4wd..
Is that what your going to be doing with your ed30 by chance :signLOL:
Yep, S3 was 4WD and it was great.. Fancy a silly power FWD car now.. Seriously man, a FWD car with a well sorted chassis, proper suspension, big sticky tyres, plate diff etc etc etc will give any 4WD car a run for its money off the line..
Drag FWD cars will get down to low 1.7 60 foot times, 4WD is around 1.6 with the same power.. But once your rolling then the FWD car will just pull and pull because of the lack of weight and transmission losses associated with the 4WD system..
Think I will sit back and save whilst you test your theory. :happy2:
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i have always protested and tried to tell people this when they dare to take the piss out of FWD :fighting:
Unfortunately its the same people who seem to think a subscription to Evo magazine and watching Top Gear on Sky+ means they know anything about cars..
Think I will sit back and save whilst you test your theory. :happy2:
Once again, more than happy to be the test pilot.. More fun when your first anyways :wink:
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i have always protested and tried to tell people this when they dare to take the piss out of FWD :fighting:
Unfortunately its the same people who seem to think a subscription to Evo magazine and watching Top Gear on Sky+ means they know anything about cars..
Amen to that!
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Is there a 4WD Leon on the continent, I know there was one in the previous shape, the neighbours in France have one.
If I was doing this kind of project, I'd want a donor car that had it as OE - that way you can compare as you transfer kit. Otherwise you're chasing your tail forever.