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Title: best remap???
Post by: The666 on March 29, 2015, 10:02:20 pm
Hi guys, Just got myself my gti around 1 month ago and think it needs a remap. I will only be doing stage 1 as I don't think its worth going any further at this stage, I'm not thinking to spend more than £500 on a 9 year old car.
But I also need help on deciding if I should get the engine and dsg remapped or just the engine.
My research so far shows R-Tech is the most recommended but seems mostly because of the high price of revo. I would like to have R-Tech stage 1 but they are just too far from me, I live in North London.

So what would you recommend for a mk5 gti dsg k03?

R-Tech? Revo? Bluefin? Shark?
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on March 30, 2015, 11:55:19 am
R-Tech get better praise over some other tuners, not just because of the cheaper price, but because the service is more personal - its not just a quick plug in laptop, flash the map & go, you get a health check, dyno run and bespoke tuning to your exact setup / cars potential. it takes 2-3hrs to do it properly, so its great value for money. 

you also get the following included within the price:

- Traction control mapping (makes traction control useful)
- switchable maps
- Dyno print outs
- Linear throttle map (if you want it)
- Mapping using VVT and removal of ECU torque intervention - allowing smoother delivery

There really isnt anything "wrong" with Revo, Shark etc at all, theres loads of cars on here mapped by them. Just remember that if you disconnect the battery for any reason, the Revo settings are lost and the car goes back to standard-ish. You need to return to your local revo installer or buy and SPS switch (£150 IIRC) to reinstate the settings.

As you can probably appreciate you arent the first person to ask this question, so read all the reviews and make a decison for yourself, looking at what is important for you (location, price, extras etc)

We all have our favourite tuners on here so the next guy will probably say APR or Revo have done him well. . . .

My advise is - Whatever tuner you go to, make sure its a well reviewed tuner discussed on the forum, dont be tempted by a local place offering £150 remaps - it always ends in tears  :happy2:
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: cooljimy84 on March 30, 2015, 12:29:44 pm
Just got mine MK5 GOLF GTI AXX K03 remapped by R-Tech. Love it !

Even after the 3 hour drive there and 3 hours back, it was still cheaper than REVO.
Even got to have a little nap on the sofa! and a chat to Nikki about how he does it all (being an IT geek myself)

As above have a look through the last rolling road, and the R-tech VS other maps.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,93698.msg938458.html#msg938458 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,93698.msg938458.html#msg938458)
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on March 30, 2015, 01:08:25 pm
Just called R-Tech apparently the remap guy (Ben) is off for the day. Gonna call back tomorrow hope I can get a booking before the weekend. I am thinking to get custom remap both engine and dsg any idea on how much that will cost?

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and a chat to Nikki about how he does it all (being an IT geek myself)
I've always wondered how comes some remaps are better than others, Like they say on this forum that Revo is more aggressive than R-Tech but R-Tech delivers a smoother ride is it not just code that can be replicated?


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AXX K03
How do I find out which one mine is?

How many posts need to get manually approved by the mod before my posts are auto approved?
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: beetie on March 30, 2015, 01:13:19 pm
Rtech isn't that bad a drive from north London. Might do it in around 2 hours. M1 j20, M69 j2?, and your pretty much there
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on March 30, 2015, 01:20:09 pm
Rtech isn't that bad a drive from north London. Might do it in around 2 hours. M1 j20, M69 j2?, and your pretty much there

Yup, Already decided to go with R-Tech. Just need to find a time slot that wont get me stuck in traffic on my way back so I can test out the newly added power  :driver:
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on March 30, 2015, 05:34:39 pm
Niki can do aggressive if you want aggressive. . .

Map is totally bespoke, I asked for linear delivery. James (former member on here) asked for a brutal map which spun the wheels in 4th gear at 30mph  :signLOL:
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on March 30, 2015, 06:31:48 pm
Niki can do aggressive if you want aggressive. . .

Map is totally bespoke, I asked for linear delivery. James (former member on here) asked for a brutal map which spun the wheels in 4th gear at 30mph  :signLOL:

Are you happy with your linear map or now want something more aggressive?
Which one gives the most performance from a 0-60 linear or aggressive?

I've always had astras in the past so fuel was never a worry for me, but now is starting to be a issue with how much the gti burns. Though still I would rather have max performance from a stage 1 than try make it a economical car. I top up £40 Vpower and it says 220miles on the dash but only lasts for around 100miles before its giving me the warning at 30-35 that's normal though right with this being the first turbo car I've owned I cant stop flooring it  :laugh:
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on March 30, 2015, 07:38:23 pm
I went linear to aid traction. It's still VERY fast on the road, it's just doesn't dump a load of boost like my mates Revo mapped Leon Cupra. Feels very OEM like in delivery, as if the car had come out of the factory with this map  :drool:

I don't know how linear you can get with a K03, as that turbo needs a decent spool to get good results, I think most people just ask for max power  :signLOL:
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on March 30, 2015, 07:59:12 pm
thanks for all that info think I'm gonna go for a more aggressive remap from R-Tech and maybe a dsg stage 1 remap too if they recommend it.
Looks like you're selling your ed30 just out of curiosity whats the next car gonna be?
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: cooljimy84 on March 30, 2015, 09:39:30 pm
They also do switchable maps, so u can have a nice stock feeling car, but turn it off and on to a different mode, harsh.

Nikki is in to coding his own type of maps (custom), so he can make it sing a tune if you want.... (don't quote me on that as the ECU only has so much memory)
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on March 30, 2015, 10:21:01 pm
They also do switchable maps, so u can have a nice stock feeling car, but turn it off and on to a different mode, harsh.

Nikki is in to coding his own type of maps (custom), so he can make it sing a tune if you want.... (don't quote me on that as the ECU only has so much memory)

OK now this sounds good  :grin: so I can have 3 maps stored and can switch with a flick of a button ? I can have stock, economical and sports map presets? Please tell me that's what you meant cause that will definitely be worth a lil extra. 
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on March 31, 2015, 01:11:45 am
Also if anyone can tell me what cooljimy84 meant by
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AXX
is that the variant? where do I find mine is there good and bad ones that can be tuned better?
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: cooljimy84 on March 31, 2015, 10:49:45 am
AXX is my engine code. Should be on the block, or under the carpet in the boot, next to the spare wheel.

Drop them (r-tech) an email, but i've got 5 maps on mine 5 being all out, for my mods, and 1 being nice a gentle.
You can't switch while driving (with R-Tech, tho do correct me someone) with mine you go stage 2 ignition. Then press and hold the break and press the accelerator to switch maps, the Rev counter than shows which map you have changed to.

Not sure how the different maps affect the MPG, as your right foot is the main affect to that....
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on March 31, 2015, 12:16:45 pm
so yesterday when I called R-Tech was told to call back today, Today when I called now I'm told to call back tomorrow since Ben has decided to get off today I cannot book in. Guess I'm just gonna try one of the others.
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on March 31, 2015, 12:20:15 pm
They are only a small unit, so with one being off it causes havoc.

Years ago, they couldn't answer the phone when the Dyno was running (80% of the time). Be patient and try again tomorrow. That little guy will likely be back  :signLOL:

To answer your other question - I'm having a 7R  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on March 31, 2015, 12:37:55 pm
well I don't suppose he will be able to fit me in for tomorrow. Would of liked it to be done before Friday cause that's when I will be travelling to Amsterdam  :laugh: called Shark and Revo both said I can take it in tomorrow. But if R-tech asks me to bring it in tomorrow will go for that otherwise just get it done at Revo.
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: cooljimy84 on March 31, 2015, 01:56:16 pm
Slim to no chance at this time of year with R-Tech. They were saying they are full for the next few weeks.

Your best bet is to email them, as it's takes a minute to email back when they have a free second. They might even have a cancelled slot they can squeeze you into.

Personally i waited till they could fit me in, rather than getting another map on it.
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on March 31, 2015, 02:13:24 pm
Slim to no chance at this time of year with R-Tech. They were saying they are full for the next few weeks.

Your best bet is to email them, as it's takes a minute to email back when they have a free second. They might even have a cancelled slot they can squeeze you into.

Personally i waited till they could fit me in, rather than getting another map on it.

OK I have just sent them a email. How long did you have to wait few weeks sounds like a lot.
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: cooljimy84 on March 31, 2015, 06:51:12 pm
I sent the email on the 17th March, and they managed to fit me in (i think from a cancel) 26th, but it was a rebook, as i had booked before Christmas but had a coolant leak a few days before and couldn't get it fixed till after my remap date.
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on April 01, 2015, 11:57:24 am
So just spoke to Ben and he booked me in for 16th April didn't want to wait too long but after the reviews I think it's going to be worth the wait. Thanks guys!
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: Dan_FR on April 01, 2015, 12:36:49 pm
More than worth the wait.

If my car hadn't already had Revo software on it when i bought it, it would have been mapped by Niki long ago. It probably will be at some point within the next 12 months when i have the spare cash/time to sack the Revo off and get the car up to them
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on April 21, 2015, 05:46:57 pm
So guys it's now been 5 days since I got the remap at R Tech and I've covered 500 miles in the 5 days cant get enough  :laugh: first day when I got it remapped I could tell a huge difference so much quicker more power quicker response, However yesterday something very weird happened and it just got a whole lot more aggressive it just feels like someone took it to stage 2 while I was in bed and it's just gone crazy  :scared: but love it even more now.

On the day of stage 1 my readouts were:
stock bhp: 206.8bhp @ 5519rpm
stage1 bhp: 244.6bhp @ 5833rpm
stock torque: 224.23 @ 2848rpm
stage1 torque: 326.52 @ 3113rpm

Next step for me is a pre cat delete anyone know a garage in London that can do this for me?
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: cooljimy84 on April 21, 2015, 06:46:00 pm
Any garage that has a understanding of cars could do it. Tho that said u might want to show them what needs to be smashed out...
Mine fell out when they were changing a violent pipe to the turbo, so it was off already for clearance.
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on April 21, 2015, 06:55:26 pm
Any garage that has a understanding of cars could do it. Tho that said u might want to show them what needs to be smashed out...
Mine fell out when they were changing a violent pipe to the turbo, so it was off already for clearance.

I've called a few places that are local in London and they all say we wont remove it. What do I do?
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: KieranED30 on April 21, 2015, 07:46:55 pm
Do it yourself  :happy2:
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on April 21, 2015, 11:54:01 pm
Do it yourself  :happy2:

lol ye mate if I had any idea of how to do it you think I would spend money? if you know how to I can pay some :) or anyone else on the forum that is in London and has spare time ?
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: cooljimy84 on April 22, 2015, 08:30:13 am
Hmmm.
My place did hesitate a bit to do it. When i turned up i spoke to the guy working on my car, showed him the pre cat and told him that it's not required for UK MOT tests. I even said to him give me the pipe once it is off and i'll do it! at that point he agreed to do it.

I'm afraid i don't have to tools to do this, thankfully i worked in a garage for 10 years so i can drop a few names and they tend to bend... LOL
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: KieranED30 on April 22, 2015, 04:01:31 pm
It's quite easy to do get the car in the air via ramp or jacks then undo the 4 turbo bolts I found the top one to be done best from top and the rest underneath then undo both lambda sensors precat and normal cat then undo the bracket stopping the exhaust from coming down then gently manoeuvre it out place it on the floor then let the smashing begin then reverse all previous steps  :happy2:
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on April 23, 2015, 03:44:27 am
It's quite easy to do get the car in the air via ramp or jacks then undo the 4 turbo bolts I found the top one to be done best from top and the rest underneath then undo both lambda sensors precat and normal cat then undo the bracket stopping the exhaust from coming down then gently manoeuvre it out place it on the floor then let the smashing begin then reverse all previous steps  :happy2:

Easy for you yes mate :) not for me

Hmmm.
My place did hesitate a bit to do it. When i turned up i spoke to the guy working on my car, showed him the pre cat and told him that it's not required for UK MOT tests. I even said to him give me the pipe once it is off and i'll do it! at that point he agreed to do it.

I'm afraid i don't have to tools to do this, thankfully i worked in a garage for 10 years so i can drop a few names and they tend to bend... LOL

Yes if you can please inbox me the garage names or just reply here. Thanks
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: cooljimy84 on April 23, 2015, 12:18:23 pm
I used Epsom all class, as i'm in Epsom for work.
Used to work at Oakhill Garage in Ashtead.
Also Tutts of Dorking are quite good, but not sure how they would feel about smashing out a pre-cat......
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: The666 on April 23, 2015, 04:20:34 pm
I used Epsom all class, as i'm in Epsom for work.
Used to work at Oakhill Garage in Ashtead.
Also Tutts of Dorking are quite good, but not sure how they would feel about smashing out a pre-cat......

Thanks for the info mate but really they are all quite far from me just gonna have to call a few other places see what happens.
Title: Re: best remap???
Post by: cooljimy84 on April 23, 2015, 04:53:51 pm
Or you could buy a second hand one, smash it out your self and then ask a garage to replace your current one.... make sure they don't bin the one coming off the car and then sell that.
Even better if you can find one already smashed out.....

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,95640.msg952436.html#msg952436 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,95640.msg952436.html#msg952436)

@rob.
Hmmm won't tag him, i suspect that the dot is messing with the forum.
(commission please  :signLOL: )