MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: VWellsy on November 30, 2009, 09:48:45 pm

Title: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: VWellsy on November 30, 2009, 09:48:45 pm
So I've had the car a couple of weeks now, and sorted a few minor gremlins out.... Monza II's are in for the diamond cut refurb next week (fantastic local bloke) So I guess it's time to think about some performance mods!!!  :grin:

Been to a company in Poole called Kar Technic for a quote:

Re-map (in house i guess)
Milltek Cat-Back
Forge Boost Valve
Pipercross Filter

All the above for just under £1k.

Then started to look round the web and BLUEFIN caught my attention, think I kinda like the idea of being in control of the mapping via the handset, and can reset if I ever had the need without going into the garage.

So my question is - what do you guys think, as a set of mods?

Kar Technic are local for me so any snags and I can go round there to sort it out (and they did seem a helpful bunch).
Or is it worth the travel for something better?
Bluefin?... Anygood or a gimmick?
Pipercross filter... should I? - or do I go straight for an Induction kit?

For info i'm into subtle mods (OEM with a kick) - so no big bore booming exhaust. and don't think i'm interested in stage 2 etc, even at a later date (famous last words) :wink: But I do want some bang for my buck!!! :grin:

All advice / opinions gratefully recieved as to what to spend my money on.

I know this kind of topic has been discussed loads on the forum so apologies for the repetition, and for the amount of questions I've posed with this post.... :notworthy:

Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 30, 2009, 09:52:07 pm
ed 30 or gti
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Greeners on November 30, 2009, 09:52:44 pm
Bluefin + Miltek TB Exhaust and a decent air filter saw me hit 300+ horses!

I'm now running a few more mods and have always been very impressed with my Bluefin!  :happy2:
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: VWellsy on November 30, 2009, 09:53:45 pm
Sorry GTI...
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Hedge on November 30, 2009, 09:54:27 pm
Yes this is a Bluefin friendly site with a fair few users.  :wink:

I have no affiliation but JKM in Portsmouth are currently doing them for £390 with £30 worth of vouchers which will buy you a panel filter.
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/bluefinshop.htm

They are also doing free postage on anything else you may desire.
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 30, 2009, 09:56:51 pm
dont go bluefin with a GTI mate. its pants. the ed 30 has good results with bluefin. i now have seen 5 cars all with same issues(including my own using bluefin) issues were when going past stage 1 though. i  thought the stage 1 was ok.

Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: VWellsy on November 30, 2009, 09:59:29 pm
Thanks Hedge, thats a good bit of info!

On a slightly different line, what's your link with the Vulcan (on your banner) Not as I'm a spotter or anything!! :grin:
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Hedge on November 30, 2009, 10:02:04 pm
Thanks Hedge, thats a good bit of info!

On a slightly different line, what's your link with the Vulcan (on your banner) Not as I'm a spotter or anything!! :grin:

Spotter or not its just I'm a member of the Vulcan to the Sky trust.

 :smiley:
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: VWellsy on November 30, 2009, 10:02:23 pm
Thanks vRSy, Any more info on the probs with bluefin for a GTi, and what map would you recommend - if any other?
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: VWellsy on November 30, 2009, 10:05:57 pm
Nice one Hedge, I only asked as I worked around the airshow circuit for a few years... Great Cause (if you can call it that). Nuff said  :happy2:
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Hedge on November 30, 2009, 10:06:39 pm
From personal experience I would actually recommend Revo on the K03 cars. However when you weigh up price versus gains the Bluefin will still make a strong case for itself.

I'm not sure of the problems Sy refers to but there are 1000's of Bluefin handsets out there.
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 30, 2009, 10:07:57 pm
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9088.0
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5134.0
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4289.msg83398#msg83398

id 100% reccomend the map i have, massively suprised at the improvment over what i had before considering they should have been equivalent to each other performance wise. worth every penny.

my recomendation is to stay with a Vag specialist who wil have more experience and knowledge on the engine. that leaves REVO, APR and sharkperformance, feel free to add more guys
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 30, 2009, 10:10:25 pm
I'm not sure of the problems Sy refers to but there are 1000's of Bluefin handsets out there.

it only seems to be the k03 they have the issue with. i know of a few who had issues, and others who believe they'res is behaving similar.  and it seems to be only @stage 2 onwards it happens. 2 guys on here plus me and a few on briskoda....

stage 1 was very good though, no issues
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: VWellsy on November 30, 2009, 10:11:16 pm
Thanks vRSy, PM received and will check out the links. :happy2:
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Lyons on November 30, 2009, 10:14:22 pm
Ignoring costs, which is better between the basic bluefin and revo for the GTi?
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 30, 2009, 10:16:15 pm
Ignoring costs, which is better between the basic bluefin and revo for the GTi?
revo IMO
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Hedge on November 30, 2009, 10:22:26 pm
I found this somewhere. I know this is from an Edition 30 however I think it shows that Bluefin should be taken seriously.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FCar%2FGolf%2FBluefinSt3edited.jpg&hash=98718a048807779f95940bd1ac0d618040fd8852)
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Greeners on November 30, 2009, 10:25:45 pm
I ran 324 on a DD roller just after I went ST2.  :happy2:
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: B3n on December 01, 2009, 12:16:17 pm
Dont forget that REVO are throwing in a controller FOC for remaps done In Dec :happy2:

Im getting mine done tomorrow cant wait :jumpmove:
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: B3n on December 01, 2009, 12:19:06 pm
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9316.0 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9316.0)
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: cossy on December 01, 2009, 12:30:17 pm
dont go bluefin with a GTI mate. its pants. the ed 30 has good results with bluefin. i now have seen 5 cars all with same issues(including my own using bluefin) issues were when going past stage 1 though. i  thought the stage 1 was ok.



I have had bluefin on both GTI & ED30.

No problems with either!

Dont get tangled up in the BHP numbers game! a lower BHP can be better, its how its delivered etc.





Would recommend without question.
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: 182_blue on December 01, 2009, 05:57:33 pm
i have Bluefin on my ed30 and it runs fine  :happy2:
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Beddie on December 01, 2009, 06:10:38 pm
i have Bluefin on my ed30 and it runs fine  :happy2:
Same here, couldnt be happier  :happy2:
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: MitchGTI on December 01, 2009, 09:06:26 pm
Ive had blufin stage 1+2 and ive had no problems up untill now where my car only ran 170bhp on the rollers saturday! But apart from that ive been happy my issues are gettin sorted monday so ile let you know if i stilllike blufin by then! lol
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Greeners on December 02, 2009, 11:22:44 am
Any update on your probs Mitch?
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: MitchGTI on December 02, 2009, 11:31:42 am
Hey matey no update as of yet! From my vag com results it shows a fueling issue tho im off down to jkm on monday so hopefully she should be running a nicer bhp figure by then! Ile keep u posted
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 02, 2009, 11:35:07 am
Hey matey no update as of yet! From my vag com results it shows a fueling issue tho im off down to jkm on monday so hopefully she should be running a nicer bhp figure by then! Ile keep u posted

post up your logs mate.

I have to seperate sets of logs of my car with bluefin if you need them to compare possibly
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Greeners on December 02, 2009, 01:29:20 pm
Hey matey no update as of yet! From my vag com results it shows a fueling issue tho im off down to jkm on monday so hopefully she should be running a nicer bhp figure by then! Ile keep u posted


Ah yes my bad  :ashamed:

I didn't read the date you had posted saying it was being looked at on Monday!  :ashamed:
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: SO8 on December 02, 2009, 05:54:44 pm
I had Bluefin on my Edition 30 ... and loved it.  The car ran so much better - a really well sorted map.

I have sold the car now but FWIW would recommend Superchips highly and am sure will be using them again ....
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: MitchGTI on December 07, 2009, 03:53:59 pm
A little update! Car is running sweet as! Ide recomend blufin allday long! My problem was my DV had split in half! Now shes running a dream! Dont no how i lived with it for so long! The fuel issue i had was down to running the fuel abit low a couple of times!
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Phil Mcavity on December 07, 2009, 03:59:14 pm
Lol good news mitch, i said to the chaps at Surrey RR if it was your Dump Valve , and they said it wasnt!!

Jim at Jkm is bang on and Best Bloke to sort any problems.

Safe journey home, weather is quite bad.
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 07, 2009, 04:51:34 pm
Guy from briskoda put his bluefin stage 2 vRS on JKMs rollers this weekend and made 251bhp and peaked at 270Ibft and leveled out at 250bhp till about 5200rpm. hes going to post the graph up later.

He's not to sure about his new stage 2+ map tthoguh as it only made 0.1bhp more(with no adaption time) however  he thinks that it could be the wrong map loaded on the car. Ill post the map up if hes happy with it once he scans it.

He does think it has adapted some more though, and feels abit more pokey now.

My old DV did the same. the top bit fell off completely when i took it off, which i wasnt expecting. I was expecting a little tair. New D revision is much ,more solid though.
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: MitchGTI on December 07, 2009, 07:53:42 pm
The questin is now phil! When is the next rr meet! Lol
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Phil Mcavity on December 07, 2009, 10:35:47 pm
The questin is now phil! When is the next rr meet! Lol
indeed, i think a spring RR day down at jkm would be cool :happy2:
Title: Re: To bluefin?, or not to bluefin?, what was the question!?!
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 08, 2009, 11:03:47 pm
here you go mitch

fresh from JKMs rollers
stage 2 bluefin, piper TBE, BSH true seal intake, autotech HPFP

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbriskoda.net%2Fforums%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcore%26amp%3Bmodule%3Dattach%26amp%3Bsection%3Dattach%26amp%3Battach_rel_module%3Dpost%26amp%3Battach_id%3D19308&hash=1da7f753cdd7daf8551ca9a54fe1725f148f0246)
Stage 2+ bluefin(ran straight after installation)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbriskoda.net%2Fforums%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcore%26amp%3Bmodule%3Dattach%26amp%3Bsection%3Dattach%26amp%3Battach_rel_module%3Dpost%26amp%3Battach_id%3D19309&hash=d4a5fbf309e5b5ee012b112722c8b6ba867ac007)

timmy is going to be along in a second as well