Post by: Pesky jones on April 08, 2015, 04:15:28 pm
Doesn't sound amazing for the engine - I know that when your driving normally and you come to a stop for a brief moment and you just brake to stop the engine pulling forward (well I do anyway - hopefully everyone does lol longer stops I go into neutral), but to rev it up to 2000rpm in sports mode with the brake on seems like it might be damaging?
Also, how do I know if mine has it?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on April 08, 2015, 05:59:55 pm
The gearbox is designed to do it, it tells you how to use it in the manual :happy2:
Post by: AndyBrown on April 08, 2015, 06:10:34 pm
Post by: Pesky jones on April 08, 2015, 07:23:48 pm
Post by: wheatobear on April 08, 2015, 07:46:23 pm
Post by: jamie on April 08, 2015, 08:19:00 pm
Post by: RetroRaz on April 08, 2015, 08:24:31 pm
Post by: AndyBrown on April 08, 2015, 08:30:04 pm
Does it work on a tdi dsg?
Only one way to find out.
Post by: Phil_H on April 08, 2015, 09:25:25 pm
Not tried it on my '55 as I was under the impression it was as above?
Post by: usmangti on April 08, 2015, 10:07:20 pm
Post by: akbarirfan on April 09, 2015, 11:51:57 am
Post by: robmcclel on April 09, 2015, 11:59:49 am
Post by: Pesky jones on May 12, 2015, 01:32:33 pm
Post by: dazza on May 12, 2015, 01:47:56 pm
Probably a good thing :evilgrin:
Post by: GTi-Andy on May 12, 2015, 01:52:11 pm
Post by: Sug on May 12, 2015, 06:52:52 pm
Post by: Saj on May 12, 2015, 07:19:13 pm
Post by: Phil_H on May 12, 2015, 07:49:54 pm
Also confirmed...lack of grip :) (Avon's)
Would be much better if they came with a LSD as standard!
Post by: dazza on May 12, 2015, 08:22:29 pm
Post by: Phil_H on May 12, 2015, 09:44:27 pm
Yeah mine went to about 2800rpm....but to be honest I reckon holding it at about 2400ish is better, and then when you release the brake get ready to work the throttle, otherwise you'll be leaving a fair bit of rubber down :)
Post by: Pesky jones on May 12, 2015, 10:28:19 pm
Does it give you a quicker 0-60 then?
Post by: Redemption on May 12, 2015, 10:28:57 pm
So if you have launch control it wont let you rev over 3000 with your foot on the brake? Can't see anything in my manual but i have no idea what launch control would be in Spanish. And car has to be up to temp?
Control de Lanzamiento. :smiley:
Post by: dazza on May 12, 2015, 10:39:38 pm
Its not in the manual. :sad1:
Control de Lanzamiento. :smiley:
Currently my car gets to about 75deg when i've fitted the new stat i will give it a go.
Post by: Pesky jones on May 14, 2015, 12:53:22 am
Post by: Pesky jones on May 14, 2015, 12:54:39 am
Post by: bigeyd on May 14, 2015, 06:15:21 am
Still confused by how to tell if you DONT have it though.The car will not pull
I had launch control yet traction was an issue :grin:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvrsexy%2FBig_Ed%2F10360211_10203755806391225_591127460436696166_n_zps3d30cc44.jpg&hash=3c0e037900a8cb97e8dfe620af236d139d6ce3b7)
Post by: Pesky jones on May 14, 2015, 07:53:27 am
So you do start moving, just without any pull? Surely there would be some pull at 3000 revs in sport mode?Still confused by how to tell if you DONT have it though.The car will not pull
I had launch control yet traction was an issue :grin:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvrsexy%2FBig_Ed%2F10360211_10203755806391225_591127460436696166_n_zps3d30cc44.jpg&hash=3c0e037900a8cb97e8dfe620af236d139d6ce3b7)
Post by: ROH ECHT on May 14, 2015, 07:54:26 am
Still confused by how to tell if you DONT have it though.(1)When the motor is at operating temps....(2)put it into the 'S' or Tiptronic position...(3)hold the brake pedal down while depressing the throttle to raise the revs. If it doesn't reach 2800rpm while still holding the brake pedal down...you do not have Launch Control activated. A dealer can do it for you...mine wasn't active and the dealer turned it on at no charge for me.
When you let off of the brake pedal...it will engage the clutch and launch. Before this the clutch remains disengaged and it is just like having a manual tranny with the clutch pedal depressed.
Post by: Pesky jones on May 14, 2015, 07:55:50 am
Good news for @dazza (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10457)Still confused by how to tell if you DONT have it though.(1)When the motor is at operating temps....(2)put it into the 'S' or Tiptronic position...(3)hold the brake pedal down while depressing the throttle to raise the revs. If it doesn't reach 2800rpm while still holding the brake pedal down...you do not have Launch Control activated. A dealer can do it for you...mine wasn't active and the dealer turned it on at no charge for me.
Post by: ROH ECHT on May 14, 2015, 08:00:17 am
You get a sense of its operation from my 1/4 mile vid:
Post by: Paradox1 on May 14, 2015, 11:35:53 am
Post by: K9 on May 14, 2015, 12:13:53 pm
Post by: JP on May 14, 2015, 02:25:23 pm
Post by: Pesky jones on May 14, 2015, 02:42:14 pm
Post by: usmangti on May 14, 2015, 03:06:24 pm
Post by: K9 on May 14, 2015, 04:08:13 pm
is the launch feature programmable via vcds?my guess is that it isn't. need to be done inside the ECU if i'm correct and tuners can activate it. Correct me if i'm wrong
Post by: Rukz on May 14, 2015, 04:29:14 pm
Good bit of fun that launch control stuff :happy2:
Ps. Just keep both hands on the wheel :laugh:
Post by: ROH ECHT on May 14, 2015, 09:31:29 pm
Post by: usmangti on May 14, 2015, 09:38:58 pm
Post by: Jesta on May 15, 2015, 10:38:18 pm
this is a pretty good link :grin: :
Post by: LukeV_Dnb on May 16, 2015, 07:54:31 am
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on May 16, 2015, 06:19:22 pm
For anyone worried about "wearing out the gearbox", @Hurdy (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=53) has done over 2000 launches with his Golf R - lots of those with roughly twice the power it came out of the factory with - his gearbox hasn't broken (although the torque is killing his clutch packs in 5th gear) :laugh:
Post by: bigeyd on May 16, 2015, 08:14:46 pm
Tried this in a MK7 R DSG I test drove. IMMENSE :drool:Prepare for the 'mine broke' post
For anyone worried about "wearing out the gearbox", @Hurdy (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=53) has done over 2000 launches with his Golf R - lots of those with roughly twice the power it came out of the factory with - his gearbox hasn't broken (although the torque is killing his clutch packs in 5th gear) :laugh:
Post by: Jesta on May 23, 2015, 10:57:43 am
Suppose it comes down to maintenece as much as anything also.
Post by: Orc on May 23, 2015, 11:03:13 am
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on May 23, 2015, 08:35:44 pm
My car just trys to pull away at around 1200rpm
If it's doing that, then you ain't doing it right :laugh:
Post by: ROH ECHT on May 24, 2015, 05:35:02 am
I've had my '07 for 8.5 yrs...with 340bhp and 363lb*ft for 6 yrs of that...and made many launches each year with the clutch pack still holding up.
Post by: Hurdy on May 24, 2015, 12:06:52 pm
My MKV ED30 ended up with a 0-60mph in 4.4 on nitrous. :innocent:
Post by: bigeyd on May 24, 2015, 09:07:05 pm
5krpm launch control in my MK6R. :evilgrin:Thats just cheating :grin:
My MKV ED30 ended up with a 0-60mph in 4.4 on nitrous. :innocent:
Post by: usmangti on May 26, 2015, 01:12:19 pm
My car just trys to pull away at around 1200rpm
If it's doing that, then you ain't doing it right :laugh:
Good news is my car does have launch control. Tried it last night, great fun. However, when I try to activate it first it feels like it wants to pull away as above but if i release the accelerator then press it again it works properly. I tried this a few times and every time it was like this. Are you all experiencing this?
Post by: dazza on May 26, 2015, 04:35:20 pm
ESP off.
In manual
It wont rev above 2600/2700
Do i have launch control?
Post by: AndyBrown on May 26, 2015, 04:55:19 pm
Still :confused: by this.
ESP off.
In manual
It wont rev above 2600/2700
Do i have launch control?
Yes. It will stay at that and when you lift your foot off the break the car will stay still but the earth will spin in the other direction.
Post by: dazza on May 26, 2015, 04:56:50 pm
Great so if i didn't have LC it would let me rev higher than this??Still :confused: by this.
ESP off.
In manual
It wont rev above 2600/2700
Do i have launch control?
Yes. It will stay at that and when you lift your foot off the break the car will stay still but the earth will spin in the other direction.
Post by: AndyBrown on May 26, 2015, 04:58:43 pm
Post by: dazza on May 26, 2015, 05:01:04 pm
It could be limited to 2600 and not have LC.
Post by: AndyBrown on May 26, 2015, 05:21:02 pm
OK seen some vids where it goes to 2800 or 3000.
It could be limited to 2600 and not have LC.
It can be mapped to be higher. Mine sits about 2,500 I think.
Post by: usmangti on May 26, 2015, 05:22:19 pm
Post by: dazza on May 26, 2015, 05:29:00 pm
This may be a safety feature. Surly if i release the brake at 2600 something fun will happen. But is the LC? Isn't LC supposed to help you get power down not just spin the wheels??
Post by: AndyBrown on May 26, 2015, 05:31:29 pm
I've read some posts where DSG will not rev above 2600 in P N etc.
This may be a safety feature. Surly if i release the brake at 2600 something fun will happen. But is the LC? Isn't LC supposed to help you get power down not just spin the wheels??
If it didn't have LC and you tried would the car not try to move and you'd feel it?
Post by: dazza on May 26, 2015, 05:36:11 pm
Post by: dazza on May 26, 2015, 05:42:00 pm
If i don't have LC i can still release the brake at 2600rpm but i doubt its good for the gearbox.
Post by: usmangti on May 26, 2015, 07:01:29 pm
Post by: dazza on May 26, 2015, 07:06:30 pm
@dazza (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10457) so are you saying there are two possibilities here? I thought revving at 2.5k with esp off etc is the LC? In park and neutral you can Rev the engine but in D/S or manual mode it won't Rev freely anyway.I have no idea mate. TBH i think it should rev more than 2600 when you have LC. Hence i think i don't have it.
Post by: HughOR on September 13, 2015, 08:41:11 pm
Post by: Pesky jones on September 13, 2015, 10:30:14 pm
When using launch control on mine, when I let off the brake, there is a slight delay before anything happens, any idea what's causing this? It sits at just under 3k
Same!
Post by: petesimcock on September 14, 2015, 09:54:32 am
Post by: Vagperformance on September 14, 2015, 01:29:27 pm
Post by: HughOR on September 14, 2015, 11:45:53 pm
Post by: dan930 on September 15, 2015, 12:42:14 am
I'm going to look into getting my gearbox mapped alright... Don't know much about it though
Dsg remap will give you faster shifts,raise the Redline a bit & higher revs for LC
Post by: HughOR on September 15, 2015, 10:06:58 am
I'm going to look into getting my gearbox mapped alright... Don't know much about it though
Dsg remap will give you faster shifts,raise the Redline a bit & higher revs for LC
Thanks. Will it do anything for the delay I have when I take my foot off the brake pedal when using LC??
Post by: dan930 on September 15, 2015, 11:40:09 am
I'm going to look into getting my gearbox mapped alright... Don't know much about it though
Dsg remap will give you faster shifts,raise the Redline a bit & higher revs for LC
Thanks. Will it do anything for the delay I have when I take my foot off the brake pedal when using LC??
What delay?power should be instant when u let off the brake
Post by: dazza on September 15, 2015, 12:04:49 pm
What delay?power should be instant when u let off the brake
I think some people with older cars are trying to launch when they don't have launch control.
Post by: john87 on September 15, 2015, 12:07:41 pm
so if you don't have it, you're just gonna burn out your clutch if you attempt it.. or so it would seem!
Post by: Pesky jones on September 15, 2015, 01:49:09 pm
mine revs to just under 3000 and there is no horrible clutch noise or smell, 05 plate
Post by: dronners on September 15, 2015, 02:13:27 pm
I have a slight delay when I let off the brake, but then it seems like the power comes. I'm not sure if I would get this power if I just went from no revs to flat out (obviously not flat out to the point where the wheels just spin) however...my gearbox also has a momentary delay from removing your foot off the brake whilst it engages the clutch say like less than a second but defiantly noticeable i think thats normal its not gonna be 100% instant
mine revs to just under 3000 and there is no horrible clutch noise or smell, 05 plate
Post by: Morgen on September 16, 2015, 04:03:14 pm
My car is also slightly jerky in first when setting off but smooth in every other gear and reverse. Does this sound like an issue to anybody?
Post by: Jarre on September 17, 2015, 03:29:04 pm
I also get the slight delay.. But I can definitely tell a difference when launching! Sits at 3k for me :smiley:
My car is also slightly jerky in first when setting off but smooth in every other gear and reverse. Does this sound like an issue to anybody?
When launching or with normal driving? Isn't jerky when setting off one of the first signs of the mechatronics unit going?
Post by: AndyBrown on September 23, 2015, 12:35:35 pm
I also get the slight delay.. But I can definitely tell a difference when launching! Sits at 3k for me :smiley:
My car is also slightly jerky in first when setting off but smooth in every other gear and reverse. Does this sound like an issue to anybody?
Could be youre mechatronic unit that you know, find someone with vcds to rest the box see if that helps
Post by: Morgen on September 23, 2015, 12:36:30 pm
Post by: Pesky jones on September 23, 2015, 01:24:18 pm
It only does it on a cold start - so pretty much in the morning each day. Reverse works fine though and I've heard that can be affected.
I've also heard DSG reset can help it - although im not sure what exactly a dsg reset is!
Post by: Morgen on September 23, 2015, 04:49:52 pm
If it's no better after that I'll just have a wee cry instead
Post by: Pesky jones on September 23, 2015, 04:54:01 pm
Post by: Morgen on September 24, 2015, 02:08:14 pm
Post by: Pesky jones on September 25, 2015, 03:44:46 pm
I've just seen from another post that a good test for a failing mechatronics unit is:
With the engine running, go straight from neutral to drive and see if it sets off without any hesitation or a distinctive knocking.
Same from park to drive.
I’ll try mine later but I don’t seem to remember mine doing this, hopefully yours doesn’t either. Maybe we just need this “DSG reset” I’ve heard about.
Post by: Scoobykiller on September 27, 2015, 11:07:13 pm
Post by: HughOR on September 30, 2015, 06:58:38 am
Tried this on my 07 today. Revs would just sit on 1500 and its like its not even revving. Let go of brake and nothing. Lol
You're not activating launch control so... Check out video in post #22 on this thread
Post by: th3_f15t on October 04, 2015, 02:22:23 pm
Tried in manual, it just revved to 1200RPM then took about a second to engage and go. In S mode I can freely rev until I release the brake and it still takes about a second to engage and launch away. With a 4motion system its really quite tame under full load, but I definitely need a remap and active launch control for my DSG 'box now.
Off to the tuners I go...
Post by: Kai96 on August 10, 2016, 06:25:24 pm
Post by: Shoduchi on August 10, 2016, 07:25:12 pm
Post by: slix on August 10, 2016, 08:12:58 pm
Sounds good though.
Post by: Kai96 on August 10, 2016, 11:10:53 pm
Down. I had the DSG mapped before even trying to use the LC... :signLOL:
LCD pointless on a front wheel drive car as you have to turn traction control off to use it = loads of wheel spin.
How much did your dsg map cost I'm thinking about taking my car to r-tech soon but I'd rather update the brakes and stuff first or will I be okay with standard brakes on a stage 1 map ?
I guess it is kind of pointless but I feel like I've got to try it at least once lol
Sounds good though.