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All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: JUNNYAK47 on April 19, 2015, 08:53:18 pm

Title: Clutch for Stage 1+ edition 30??
Post by: JUNNYAK47 on April 19, 2015, 08:53:18 pm
Hi guys,
Im needing a new clutch for a stage 1+ edition 30. Iv been told that a stock clutch would handle the power, however also been told that an uprated clutch would be required. Im at 400lb ft and 330bhp. Experiencing lots of clutch slip however the car has done 75000miles and i dont think clutch has been changed before.  Which route should I head down? stock, something like this: http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_2.0_2007/p/car-parts/car-transmission/clutch-and-associated-parts/clutch-kit/?641442390&1&d57b569e90e17a15e96dde257a502a002275a23e&000069

or uprated: http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golfmk5/helix-clutch-kit-single-mass-flywheel-options-volkswagen-mk5-golf-2-0t-gti
Title: Re: Clutch for Stage 1+ edition 30??
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on April 19, 2015, 09:02:44 pm
400lb ft needs an uprated clutch. Get a Helix clutch from AKS tuning  :happy2:

That's a lot of torque from only 330bhp  :surprised: normally you need stage 2+ mods to get 400lbft
Title: Re: Clutch for Stage 1+ edition 30??
Post by: JUNNYAK47 on April 19, 2015, 09:09:14 pm
SO is 400lb ft good at stage 1?   Iv got an ITG maxogen intake, cat back milltek, apr hpfp (stock one blew up on dyno) and apr remap. all done at awesome a couple of weeks ago.   The car was running nearly 241bhp and 290lb ft stock.  I'll give AKStuning a call in the morning. 
Title: Re: Clutch for Stage 1+ edition 30??
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on April 20, 2015, 12:04:27 pm
You've got good mods there, although if you got the torque figure on Awesome's dyno thay may explain why the torque is so high - their dyno has a reputation for being pretty accurate for the BHP figure, but a bit optimistic for the torque.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Clutch for Stage 1+ edition 30??
Post by: pudding on April 20, 2015, 03:55:03 pm
Would love to see your torque curve!

Steer clear of single mass conversions.

As already said, get the Helix organic clutch + new dual mass FW.  Clutch is £500, DMF is £255 and then labour on top.  Not cheap, but there's no other option really.  Yes a standard clutch will handle it, just, for the first half of it's life, and then it will slip again.  With that much torque you'd be looking at 30-40k miles max, then it's going to need doing again.
Title: Re: Clutch for Stage 1+ edition 30??
Post by: JUNNYAK47 on April 20, 2015, 09:53:36 pm
Considering how much my clutch is slipping and the kick the car has now I would say the torque figure is very close to 400. Either way Iv ordered a helix clutch with dual mass flywheel. These costs are adding up! Heres the dyno Run:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft245%2Fjunnyak47%2Fdyno_run_001_zpslqccwvir.jpg&hash=7fa79eb29bbeaeb7b0674ab36ab73b6e577f5a15)
Title: Re: Clutch for Stage 1+ edition 30??
Post by: JUNNYAK47 on April 20, 2015, 09:56:07 pm
Might even start a build thread. Got some front s3 brakes - just need the time to get em on. Next thing is some suspension and anti-roll bars. Will be back for advice when im saved some more dough
Title: Re: Clutch for Stage 1+ edition 30??
Post by: LVS Racing on April 22, 2015, 10:59:10 am
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Title: Re: Clutch for Stage 1+ edition 30??
Post by: Callumed30 on May 17, 2015, 03:46:43 pm
You can get good smf just look into it for proven ones, at 400lbf if u have that ur dmf won't last long.
Title: Re: Clutch for Stage 1+ edition 30??
Post by: mk5-beast-91 on May 17, 2015, 03:55:59 pm
Ive got a sachs clutch and smf rated for 650nm. Feels fine and oem until i put my foot down, alot more throttle response and car pulls better to. Its a little loud and a slight rattle type sound on start up but once the revs drop after a few seconds the sound goes and feels normal.