MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Hurdy on December 03, 2009, 04:09:27 pm
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The car is looking a little sorry for itself at the moment :sad1:
Took it in for a few more mods and sort of got carried away :ashamed: :evilgrin:
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A quick game of spot my turbo....which of these is my turbo?
1. Brand new.....
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2. A little black....
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3. A bit brown....
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Is the brown one running lean and the black one running rich?
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Hmm nice ! please get me a close up pic of the brake fluid res and is that the master cylinder? i think i need to replace mine soon !
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Hmm nice ! please get me a close up pic of the brake fluid res and is that the master cylinder? i think i need to replace mine soon !
I'll see what I can do for you :happy2:
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nice one :) and what the hell made you want to get the engine out?
unless your doing a whole bottom end build etc i cant justify it lol but fair play to you! if you got the know how and the space and tools, why not ! :congrats:
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nice one :) and what the hell made you want to get the engine out?
unless your doing a whole bottom end build etc i cant justify it lol but fair play to you! if you got the know how and the space and tools, why not ! :congrats:
Quaife going in for the DSG is one of many reasons the engine and 'box is out. :innocent:
Wish it was me who had room to do this, but it is at my local specialist 3 miles down the road. :smiley:
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Engine bay cleaning to the extreme?
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FINALLY!!! :congrats: :grin:
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I thought brown was just right?... Going off the old spark plug pics on the back of Haynes Manual.
I smell more power....
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Engine bay cleaning to the extreme?
Bulkhead Bath john!!!.Get the Bucket n spunge out :wink:
Good luck with your new mods :happy2:
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porting the engine?
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porting the engine?
FINALLY!!! :congrats: :grin:
Big turbo :party: :popcornsoda:
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porting the engine?
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I thought brown was just right?... Going off the old spark plug pics on the back of Haynes Manual.
I smell more power....
My K04 turbo has had a health check and is in perfect working order, a bit brown, but normal. The sooty one is running too rich and the new one has done 2k miles without a remap.
More useable power to the wheels Mike :happy2:
More power.......we'll see :smiley:
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now the engines out you could get one of these fitted.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9648.msg148952#new
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Brown is good, possibly running a little hot to be that brown. But then thats the TFSi running lean for you.
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now the engines out you could get one of these fitted.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9648.msg148952#new
I'd get one of those, but the neighbours would complain about all the female ducks gathered around it! :signLOL:
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Perfect chance for a proper engine to bolt your turbo onto
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2007-VW-GOLF-R32-AUDI-TT-3-2-V6-250-BHP-ENGINE-BUB_W0QQitemZ130344088460QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item1e591cf38c#ht_721wt_958
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That duck blow off valve is awesome :signLOL:
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very nice John :happy2:
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porting the engine?
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How did I know you would quote me :grin:
Ported cylinder head, lets k04 cars run to about 380hp.
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porting the engine?
:confused:
How did I know you would quote me :grin:
Ported cylinder head, lets k04 cars run to about 380hp.
Ha, only because I wanted to know what you meant.. Didn't know that someone had done a head on a K04 car? K04 running 380 (true) hp would be impressive to see for sure! :smiley:
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be some large outlay for a port and polish i bet though
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Not too bag, especially if the head is off already.
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be some large outlay for a port and polish i bet though
800-900 Drive in drive out.
with the head already off, minus about 200 quid.
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With the head off already it's only man hours, so a lot less than 700.
I remember about 16 years ago when I burnt a valve out on my .......Metro GTI!! Haha, and I had the head ported and flowed at the same time. Must have made all of 3 bhp difference to the little k series! Oh the memories.
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be some large outlay for a port and polish i bet though
800-900 Drive in drive out.
with the head already off, minus about 200 quid.
Thats like £100 per hour, little bit on the expensive side.. When is yours getting done?
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what are the incease you could be looking at, and what is it that they actually do
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be some large outlay for a port and polish i bet though
Waste of time going mad with the polishing.
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what are the incease you could be looking at, and what is it that they actually do
Enlarge the ports (these are always smaller than they could be due to manufacturing tolerances) and literally smooth out any blemishes and imperfections in the casting to help improve flow through the head. I know of someone who got an ST170 Focus up to around 220 with head work, cams and custom management but it had naff all torque. Until he fitted a blower!
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be some large outlay for a port and polish i bet though
800-900 Drive in drive out.
with the head already off, minus about 200 quid.
no more power mods from me for a while. Doing a bit of interior and exterior spraying next. Then need to decide if I'm staying fwd or not, or if I'm gonna sell up for something else. If I stay fwd I will then do diff and clutch next
animal, I have been told due to the fact that turbo push air less turbulence Long the way is very beneficial. Bsh sure do agree aswell
Thats like £100 per hour, little bit on the expensive side.. When is yours getting done?
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be some large outlay for a port and polish i bet though
800-900 Drive in drive out.
with the head already off, minus about 200 quid.
no more power mods from me for a while. Doing a bit of interior and exterior spraying next. Then need to decide if I'm staying fwd or not, or if I'm gonna sell up for something else. If I stay fwd I will then do diff and clutch next
animal, I have been told due to the fact that turbo push air less turbulence Long the way is very beneficial. Bsh sure do agree aswell
Thats like £100 per hour, little bit on the expensive side.. When is yours getting done?
Fair enough, it seems I have been mis-informed on this having just made a phone call to check for myself - you live and learn! :ashamed: But with regards to polishing, the laws of physics dictate that going to town on this really isn't worth while. Smoothing things off - yes, but not so that you can see your face in it.
And you'd need your mapping tweaked to take advantage of the improved flow.
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We did the head on the S3 at the same time as all the other work, so its hard to say what difference it actually made..
I have never heard of anyone doing 'testing' on this though, certainly not to the point at which you could put a number to it..
The K04 will flow what it can flow, the engine is not the restriction with that turbo, so gaining power at the top end with a K04 seems very unlikely.. With a larger turbo, yeah you most probably will find gains, but there going to be minimal.. Maybes 15hp tops on a GT30 running 30psi..
Also, bare in mind, thats all at the top, you will loose a certain amount under the curve as a trade off..
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Two second on Google came up with this:
In simple terms if a ported cylinder head gives 20% extra power on a N/A engine it will also give 20% extra power on a turbo'd engine. Maybe even more once the heat drop is taken into account. However, the bhp amount of the power gain will be much higher on the turbo engine because the base power is higher. If you take a 150 bhp N/A engine that extra 20% will add 30 bhp but if the engine is turbocharged to 15 psi boost and produces 300 bhp on the standard head then the 20% extra power from the ported head becomes 60 bhp.
How true this is, remains to be seen. This is certainly something I will be reading into further! You are right though Jonny, it's more a case of finding the bottle neck within the system and if this isn't the head as you elude to, then it's a lot of money for little return. Some engines certainly seem to benefit more from porting than others. The 2.0 Duratec used in Caterhams responds extremely well to head work. I suppose with turbo'd engines there are other things you can do to improve things before shelling out on head work.
Jonny, what did you have done to the S3 head? Was it properly bench flowed or did you just have the ports enlarged?
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Engine out for someone who knows what they are doing is fine but still quite a shocking pic when you see it with no front end more or less.
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Two second on Google came up with this:
In simple terms if a ported cylinder head gives 20% extra power on a N/A engine it will also give 20% extra power on a turbo'd engine. Maybe even more once the heat drop is taken into account. However, the bhp amount of the power gain will be much higher on the turbo engine because the base power is higher. If you take a 150 bhp N/A engine that extra 20% will add 30 bhp but if the engine is turbocharged to 15 psi boost and produces 300 bhp on the standard head then the 20% extra power from the ported head becomes 60 bhp.
How true this is, remains to be seen. This is certainly something I will be reading into further! You are right though Jonny, it's more a case of finding the bottle neck within the system and if this isn't the head as you elude to, then it's a lot of money for little return. Some engines certainly seem to benefit more from porting than others. The 2.0 Duratec used in Caterhams responds extremely well to head work. I suppose with turbo'd engines there are other things you can do to improve things before shelling out on head work.
Jonny, what did you have done to the S3 head? Was it properly bench flowed or did you just have the ports enlarged?
Haha, I have never seen such a generalizing claim as that! If we could all gain 60bhp on an engine just because its turbo charged dont you think the manufacturer would do it? Absolute balls.. That statement means nothing..
We just literally flowed them, so smoothed out the inlet and exhaust ports etc.. Which is just about all you can do on this head due to the water gallerys being so close..
Im sure some people make it up as they go along.. :grin:
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Backdraft motorsport do porting on their k04 ktm x bow and reckon up to 380hp onstage 2 plus.
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Backdraft motorsport do porting on their k04 ktm x bow and reckon up to 380hp onstage 2 plus.
Some stage 2 plus cars have dyno'd over 400hp.. Think that says it all..
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Looking forward to hear your views on this when it is done John :happy2: :smiley:
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Backdraft motorsport do porting on their k04 ktm x bow and reckon up to 380hp onstage 2 plus.
Some stage 2 plus cars have dyno'd over 400hp.. Think that says it all..
ye but backdraft peg their ko4 stage 2 plus at 360hp. near 20hp improvment on their rollers is a good indication of gains.
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ye but backdraft peg their ko4 stage 2 plus at 360hp. near 20hp improvment on their rollers is a good indication of gains.
If you can prove to me that on a K04 back to back you gain 20hp top end with just a port and polish I'll pay for you to get it done on yours..
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ye but backdraft peg their ko4 stage 2 plus at 360hp. near 20hp improvment on their rollers is a good indication of gains.
If you can prove to me that on a K04 back to back you gain 20hp top end with just a port and polish I'll pay for you to get it done on yours..
:congrats: :pomppomp: :pomppomp: :congrats:
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Had my car on the rollers today after a port and polish and it made another 22bhp :driver:
Only kidding.......it is still in bits :signLOL:
PS...who said it was having headwork done anyway? :confused:
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ye but backdraft peg their ko4 stage 2 plus at 360hp. near 20hp improvment on their rollers is a good indication of gains.
If you can prove to me that on a K04 back to back you gain 20hp top end with just a port and polish I'll pay for you to get it done on yours..
email backdraft and ask them, im only passing on what they have quoted
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Well, finally the gearbox is back in one piece.
Steve at Statllers has been great at letting me nosey at the car at each step of the process and has made me feel confident in how things are being done.
Getting part numbers etc has been a task on it's own as no-one seems to want to share information and VW will not release part numbers for any of the DSG.
Separating the main gear from the OEM open diff meant taking it to a nearby precision engineering firm to remove the rivets and they did a superb job too.
Steve was at work till 8.30pm tonight, putting the DSG box back together, so top marks from me :happy2: :notworthy:
Let's hope his wife is still talking to him :scared:
Next stop is the engine back in with the VF engine and transmission mounts in place. :jumping:
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Remind me next time we meet not to get in your car with you. It was mental already before you added a few more ponies and now a
hair piece quiff. :scared: :P
How comes you havn't plumped for lighter seats yet John. :happy2:
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email backdraft and ask them, im only passing on what they have quoted
I had a word with Alex a few days ago, and he confirmed what I thought.. He said they saw 5hp at the top, and a little more punch in the mid range on the road, but nothing noticeable on the dyno.. Of course, as I said, with a big turbo it would be worth doing..
Well, finally the gearbox is back in one piece.
Steve at Statllers has been great at letting me nosey at the car at each step of the process and has made me feel confident in how things are being done.
Getting part numbers etc has been a task on it's own as no-one seems to want to share information and VW will not release part numbers for any of the DSG.
Separating the main gear from the OEM open diff meant taking it to a nearby precision engineering firm to remove the rivets and they did a superb job too.
Steve was at work till 8.30pm tonight, putting the DSG box back together, so top marks from me :happy2: :notworthy:
Let's hope his wife is still talking to him :scared:
Next stop is the engine back in with the VF engine and transmission mounts in place. :jumping:
Sounds good John, so just diff and mounts? How come engine out then? :wink:
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How comes you havn't plumped for lighter seats yet John. :happy2:
Don't worry, they are on my list :innocent:
Sounds good John, so just diff and mounts? How come engine out then? :wink:
Mainly just the diff and mounts, but no small GT3076 sized turbo for me :signLOL:
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Mainly just the diff and mounts, but no small GT3076 sized turbo for me :signLOL:
Ehemmm... What are you upto? :grin:
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Mainly just the diff and mounts, but no small GT3076 sized turbo for me :signLOL:
Ehemmm... What are you upto? :grin:
Nothing! :driver:
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Mainly just the diff and mounts, but no small GT3076 sized turbo for me :signLOL:
Ehemmm... What are you upto? :grin:
Nothing! :driver:
Whatever your upto, hurry up! I need someone to play with next time we go to Pod :pomppomp:
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Mainly just the diff and mounts, but no small GT3076 sized turbo for me :signLOL:
Ehemmm... What are you upto? :grin:
Nothing! :driver:
Whatever your upto, hurry up! I need someone to play with next time we go to Pod :pomppomp:
I'll be there. :happy2:
As long as I don't blow something up first :laugh:
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I'll be there. :happy2:
As long as I don't blow something up first :laugh:
Don't be soft! Ok mate, get on it! :smiley:
Mine will be done before Christmas :wink:
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Can't wait to see the results Hurdy. :popcornsoda:
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Mainly just the diff and mounts, but no small GT3076 sized turbo for me :signLOL:
GT35??? :notworthy:
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Mainly just the diff and mounts, but no small GT3076 sized turbo for me :signLOL:
GT35??? :notworthy:
Spool at 5500rpm.. Hmm.. No fun! :confused: I want to go 35R with billet wheel in the future, once the fueling is available, rev it to 9k and get spool at 5k.. 700hp FTW!
Once the fueling is sorted out then its going to be possible to make some seriously high powered FSI cars!! Getting up into the 1000hp level is possible with the hardware that is out there already.. Really not too far away from the 2.0T FSI being tuned to that level!! Can't wait..
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This is what I dont get with the 2.0TFSI, why has no one properly sorted out a aftermarket part for the fuelling.
This whole internals and apr pump thing is just crap.
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Uprated in-tank pump, uprated rail system, twin injectors, uprated top end with supertech valves, springs and retainers and uprated gasket, will see a good increase potential with the right turbo, but it is the HPFP limitations that would worry me with higher outputs over 600bhp.
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This is what I dont get with the 2.0TFSI, why has no one properly sorted out a aftermarket part for the fuelling.
This whole internals and apr pump thing is just crap.
You do come out with some stuff.. :grin:
I dont think its really 'crap' at the end of the day, the uprated HPFP combined with RS4 injectors can max out the low pressure fuel system, so whats crap?? There is no problem with the high pressure side, its the low pressure that is holding things back at the moment..
You can easily 'sort it out' but you need to pay to play when it comes to tuning DI motors.. 99% of people out there aren't prepared to do it, hence very low demand for development parts..
If there is a market then the parts will be produced very quickly, but at the end of the day the engineers out there will only throw money at it if they see a return in their investments..
Uprated in-tank pump, uprated rail system, twin injectors, uprated top end with supertech valves, springs and retainers and uprated gasket, will see a good increase potential with the right turbo, but it is the HPFP limitations that would worry me with higher outputs over 600bhp.
The easiest solution at the moment would be to supplement the DI with conventional injectors, so there would be no more load on the HPFP than there is now, infact, you would be able to get away with running stock high pressure fuel, and run 1000cc injectors in the inlet manifold.. That would support over 1000hp
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It will all take time - like Jonnyc said when the market becomes big enough. There wasnt much about (without paying through the nose for it) when the 1.8T came out - now you can get lots of various upgrades for it. The 2.0T will follow I'm sure, I've noticed recently more and more becoming available
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It will all take time - like Jonnyc said when the market becomes big enough. There wasnt much about (without paying through the nose for it) when the 1.8T came out - now you can get lots of various upgrades for it. The 2.0T will follow I'm sure, I've noticed recently more and more becoming available
This time next year there will be stuff fairly readily available, for not too bad a price.. There will be fueling solutions out there in a couple of months, but its going to be god money to start with..
Like you say, same with anything! :smiley:
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Johnny your like a mother in law, pickin up on little things but then actually missing the point completely lol. The fueling is crap ie the hpfp as the whole internals and apr pump affair is just not as reliable as I wouldlike it to be, yes many haven't failed, but then alot have, and will they actually stNd the test of time who knows? I just wish someone would develop a solution from the ground up instead of just modyifying a flawed component which still leaves it liable to failure. No doubt you will co
e up with something else as you do seem to enjoy swinging your handbag around :grin:
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Johnny your like a mother in law, pickin up on little things but then actually missing the point completely lol. The fueling is crap ie the hpfp as the whole internals and apr pump affair is just not as reliable as I wouldlike it to be, yes many haven't failed, but then alot have, and will they actually stNd the test of time who knows? I just wish someone would develop a solution from the ground up instead of just modyifying a flawed component which still leaves it liable to failure. No doubt you will co
e up with something else as you do seem to enjoy swinging your handbag around :grin:
What do you expect when you say something like that?
Anyways I really don't think that's the case.. It's more to do with you not liking the fact that someone may possibly have more knowledge than you on your chosen subject..
As with all my posts I'm only trying to either bring new info to light or put things straight.. The difference is that all of my knowledge on this subject is based on my own personal experience, yours seems to come from reading it off the net.. For me, that says it all..
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All hail jonny, no one has a big turbo but him cocker. It's funny mate you seem to have a chip on your shoulder. You just seem to like to take certain things out of context. Maybe I should start analysing every post that you make, it's easily done. It's amusing how the same guy who flip flops constantly about whether 4wd or fwd is quicker and likes to think he knows more than apr, and constantly derides apr as a company just because you have a bit of money to throw at your car with a bt kit. There are plenty of bt guys out there who have been doing it long before you and actually do the work themselves instead of writing cheques, and they all manage to post on the internet without an attitude, or going around as if they are superior to everyone else. You say you have personal experience, well so do I. I have internals, and therefore I have just as much right to give my opinion on it beig rubbish or not as you. Anyway you really do live up to your name, cock indeed.
P.s apologies to the bad grammar and spelling, I'm still trying to figure out how to use the iPhone properly.
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All hail jonny, no one has a big turbo but him cocker. It's funny mate you seem to have a chip on your shoulder. You just seem to like to take certain things out of context. Maybe I should start analysing every post that you make, it's easily done. It's amusing how the same guy who flip flops constantly about whether 4wd or fwd is quicker and likes to think he knows more than apr, and constantly derides apr as a company just because you have a bit of money to throw at your car with a bt kit. There are plenty of bt guys out there who have been doing it long before you and actually do the work themselves instead of writing cheques, and they all manage to post on the internet without an attitude, or going around as if they are superior to everyone else. You say you have personal experience, well so do I. I have internals, and therefore I have just as much right to give my opinion on it beig rubbish or not as you. Anyway you really do live up to your name, cock indeed.
P.s apologies to the bad grammar and spelling, I'm still trying to figure out how to use the iPhone properly.
Poverty, just 'man up' and take it on the chin like an adult. Agree to disagree without resorting to childish name calling - irrespective of who is right and wrong, there is no need for that.
To quote your sig, life is too short to waste time arguing over bloody engines as well!
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I dont really know how this turned to handbags. :grin:
Poverty Jonny just has a very different personality to you. You are always quite negative about problems with your car. Were Jonny is just looking to overcome problems and fix them. Whether he is in a position to be able to do this, or not is irrelevant, its about what attitude we all have to dealing with problems.
There is nothing wrong with how you look at life either to be honest, its just different, so it would help you if you recognize the differences between you 2 and stop being so defeatist. :rolleye:
Just my 2 penith, as you were. (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftomashandmilly%2FDaft_stuff%2Ffunnypenguinji5.gif&hash=12f6f18c66a79a51865e5fc7b83d1ba1d3808c7b)
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WORD! :congrats:
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All hail jonny, no one has a big turbo but him cocker. It's funny mate you seem to have a chip on your shoulder. You just seem to like to take certain things out of context. Maybe I should start analysing every post that you make, it's easily done. It's amusing how the same guy who flip flops constantly about whether 4wd or fwd is quicker and likes to think he knows more than apr, and constantly derides apr as a company just because you have a bit of money to throw at your car with a bt kit. There are plenty of bt guys out there who have been doing it long before you and actually do the work themselves instead of writing cheques, and they all manage to post on the internet without an attitude, or going around as if they are superior to everyone else. You say you have personal experience, well so do I. I have internals, and therefore I have just as much right to give my opinion on it beig rubbish or not as you. Anyway you really do live up to your name, cock indeed.
P.s apologies to the bad grammar and spelling, I'm still trying to figure out how to use the iPhone properly.
Thought you may reply like that.. :congrats: You just sounded like a school boy.. Your a 'cock' hehehehehe.. Grow up!
Seriously you have no idea, I wont go to the trouble of sitting here explaining exactly how much work I did on my car personally, but its not how you would like to presume.. Sorry
What exactly have I taken out of context? Porting a head on a FSI running a K04 will make 20hp? Or the fact that the HPFP's are crap..?
I have nothing against APR (dont know why you felt the need to bring this up) If you check out any of the American forums, you will notice that APR get a really hard time from LOTS of different members.. And its not the fact that I think I know more than them, when have I ever claimed that?
And yes, your right, you do have the right for an opinion on the fuel pump, so im presuming that you have had countless problems and failures based on your comments?
I think its pretty obvious that your the one with the chip on your shoulder :happy2:
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TC is right and let's not spoil Hurdy's thread with the handbags, even if it's slightly entertaining.
Better the entertainment provided by Master Hurdy's attempts to go even faster!
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TC is right and let's not spoil Hurdy's thread with the handbags, even if it's slightly entertaining.
Better the entertainment provided by Master Hurdy's attempts to go even faster!
Come on Robin at least let him throw a couple more playground insults first?? :popcornsoda:
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Haha I was thinking myself that your comments remind me of being back in school and the way in which you communicate. I have seen your posts on the American sites, personally I think it leaves alot to be desired. I won't bang on about the details, you will know all about it yourself and I'm not the first member here to have picked up on it either.
Anyway I won't say anymore about it, don't want to ruin hurdys thread and I need to go back to fixing things
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TC is right and let's not spoil Hurdy's thread with the handbags, even if it's slightly entertaining.
Better the entertainment provided by Master Hurdy's attempts to go even faster!
Come on Robin at least let him throw a couple more playground insults first?? :popcornsoda:
.... :signLOL: Yeah, I know, it's always entertaining when someone throws their toys out the pram if we're honest about it.
:happy2: 8) :happy2:
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Haha I was thinking myself that your comments remind me of being back in school and the way in which you communicate. I have seen your posts on the American sites, personally I think it leaves alot to be desired. I won't bang on about the details, you will know all about it yourself and I'm not the first member here to have picked up on it either.
Oh yeah, a balanced argument vs. name calling.. Hmm... I wander?
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Guys, I think your replies, Poverty, are somewhat out of order, but if you both continue with the handbags then the Mods will step in.
Just have some consideration for OP Hurdy.
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:popcornsoda: This is like being at school, oh sorry, I forgot, I am :happy2: Anyway, let's get Hurdy's thread back on track.
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:popcornsoda: This is like being at school, oh sorry, I forgot, I am :happy2: Anyway, let's get Hurdy's thread back on track.
x2. if there are differences, take them to PM please.
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we all have different opions on things-thats what makes modding cars excellent,as we can choose from a mass of differenf tuning companys
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@RR
less writing in other posts and more writing in your twintake review. still waiting here :wink: :wink: :drinking: :signLOL:
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The car should be ready to collect tomorrow, but I'm at work all weekend, so I'll probably collect it on Monday :xmaspresent:
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I thought the playground arguments only occur in R32 threads :ashamed: :signLOL:
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Got my car back this afternoon and sh!t me it is brilliant :evilgrin:
Damp conditions....pah! Quaife FTMFW :driver:
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^^^^
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I knew you'd appreciate the Quaife, John, but was just a bit concerned you might anticipate too much and then be disappointed. It's subtle but very effective, yes?
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Very subtle Robin, but you know it is silently doing it's business. :happy2: