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Title: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: Pesky jones on April 26, 2015, 09:05:52 pm
Is it normal for the engine or engine cover to rock when you rev it?
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: mk5-beast-91 on April 26, 2015, 09:15:47 pm
engine mounts sound warn out. youll get some movement as its for comfort but excess is down to warn out mounts.
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: K9 on April 26, 2015, 09:21:27 pm
engine mounts sound warn out. youll get some movement as its for comfort but excess is down to warn out mounts.
@mk5-beast-91 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6140) do you have the part nr. for the engine bushes? as i got 2 worn out  :scared:
Edit: found it! :happy2:
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: mk5-beast-91 on April 26, 2015, 09:28:58 pm
1K0 199 262 M (right engine mount)
1K0 199 555 Q (left gearbox mount)
1K0 199 867 A (rear subframe bush)

Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: Pesky jones on April 26, 2015, 10:48:02 pm
So what does work out engine mounts entail? I take it you can't do it yourself...
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: Pesky jones on April 26, 2015, 10:54:00 pm
I also should mention that the engine cover is only secured at the front, the two back cover mounts have perished. I've ordered some new ones already.
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: mk5-beast-91 on April 26, 2015, 10:58:39 pm
not sure what the engine mounts cost as ive uprated to vibratechnic ones. there an easy fix tho. done mine on the driveway with some axle stands. took about an hour in total to do. really easy job and only need basic tools.
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: Pesky jones on April 26, 2015, 11:11:32 pm
Is it just axle stands and basic tools then? No specialised tools?
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: mk5-beast-91 on April 26, 2015, 11:22:42 pm
if i remember correctly its only 10mm, 13mm, 16mm and 18mm deep sockets. and t20 or t25 torq driver. and torque wrench to. and a trolley jack to support engine from underneath while swapping the mounts.
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: Pesky jones on April 26, 2015, 11:31:03 pm
Haha so not basic tools.

I've got the rest apart from torque wrench and trolley jack. Do I really need a torque wrench? Definitely don't have a trolley jack. Might have to leave this one... Perhaps it's not excessive movements. It rocks forwards to the front of the car by about an inch or two. Should I post a video?
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: Pesky jones on April 27, 2015, 08:28:41 am
I could just get it done by a garage I guess. Any idea on how much you think it should be? Cheers
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: Pesky jones on April 27, 2015, 10:33:15 am
Is this a serious issue with bad consequences btw?
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on April 27, 2015, 12:44:28 pm
Is this a serious issue with bad consequences btw?

Engine could drop out if mounts fail  :surprised:

Few guys have had this happen when cambelt replaced, but garage have re-used engine mount stretch bolts. . . Moral of the story is - don't re-use stretch bolts.

Soft mounts also affect the cars handling as the weight of the engine is thrown around the engine bay.
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: Pesky jones on April 27, 2015, 01:59:16 pm
I've spoken to someone and they say an inch or two of movement forward isn't too bad. It's when its really rocking three or four inches that's a problem.
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: mk5-beast-91 on April 27, 2015, 05:34:09 pm
2 inches sounds alot to me. id get them changed for piece of mind.
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: Chris92 on April 27, 2015, 06:26:00 pm
Haha so not basic tools.

I've got the rest apart from torque wrench and trolley jack. Do I really need a torque wrench? Definitely don't have a trolley jack. Might have to leave this one... Perhaps it's not excessive movements. It rocks forwards to the front of the car by about an inch or two. Should I post a video?

Others on here will disagree but down the years when I've had my engine mounts off for whatever job such as timing belts etc I've never ever torqued the mounts up, I wouldn't worry just make sure they are tight, get some new bolts while your at it
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: mk5-beast-91 on April 27, 2015, 07:10:16 pm
i torque everything on ghe car but only coz ivd got the tools. otherwise i wouldnt. just do up nice and tight.
Title: Re: engine / engine cover rock
Post by: Pesky jones on April 28, 2015, 12:08:40 pm
I've double checked and its about an inch roughly - don't think its too bad - I will probably get the powerflex and dogbone upgrade at some point.

For future reference - could someone point me in the right direction for these two parts?