MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Janner_Sy on December 05, 2009, 10:24:12 am
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lets see who has what remap. I think REVO is the predominant map on this forum, but could be interesting to see whos challenging.
let me know if your map is not on there and ill add it
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Revo for me :happy2:
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I am REVO and agree that REVO seems to be the dominant SW in the UK for 2.0 TFSIs probably.
For me after an incredible amount of research it came down to a choice of REVO or APR. I decided to go for which ever company was offering the best deal at the time and managed to get 20% off my REVO remap via a group buy :smiley:
Needless to say I am delighted with it and I am sure I would have been happy with APR as well.
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Revooooooooo :pomppomp:
Been using them since 2002.
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i reckon bluefin will be second
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Add Celtic Tuning to the list, theres a couple on here with that I think...
I'm Revo!
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Revo for me and very happy with it, but I've used APR a couple of times and been more than happy with that as well :happy2:
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Got REVO on my derv chuffed to bits with it :jumping:
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warrenty ends this month, i reckon revo could be on the cards for me. if i can get a good price anyway :happy2:
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I bought my ED30 second hand, convinced it is mapped, its whey quicker than my last two cars with simular BHP
(Easily wheels spin in 5th in the wet, although front tyres need replacing) - yes i know if someone told me this i would think "yes of course it does mate" :stupid:
I obviously need to get it on the rollers to confirm.
My question is....would it be possible to tell from the BHP/Torque figures what re-map it has ?
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I bought my ED30 second hand, convinced it is mapped, its whey quicker than my last two cars with simular BHP
(Easily wheels spin in 5th in the wet, although front tyres need replacing) - yes i know if someone told me this i would think "yes of course it does mate" :stupid:
I obviously need to get it on the rollers to confirm.
My question is....would it be possible to tell from the BHP/Torque figures what re-map it has ?
No but if you can adjust with select plus switch that might be a clue :happy2:
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Thanks CARRG
would the select switch be on the cruise control ?
i got MFSW and Highline but no cruise
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:pomppomp: :pomppomp: REVO :pomppomp: :pomppomp:
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Thanks CARRG
would the select switch be on the cruise control ?
i got MFSW and Highline but no cruise
Select switch http://www.revotechnik.com/products/sps.aspx (http://www.revotechnik.com/products/sps.aspx)
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Got REVO on my derv chuffed to bits with it :jumping:
:congrats: :congrats: So your pleased. Did you get a before and after dyno? Transforms the car doesn't it.:)
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Thanks CARRG
would the select switch be on the cruise control ?
i got MFSW and Highline but no cruise
Apr for me, possible change to REVO or GIAC in the new year (Not untill Ive seen what the cars doing from Logs / RR's with Apr)
Apr use Cruise. Can be retro fitted for around £199....
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Revo is to the UK as what APR is in the US.
Revo have all these cars running their software yet are unable to give advive on why some stage 2 plus cars from 2007 to 2009 models have the flat spot at 5200rpm :confused:
First they say change the DV, then they say its the valves springs that are weaker on 08+ models, but then once they are proven to be wrong as there are 2007 cars with that fault they just run off.
More people should run GIAC imo.
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Thanks CARRG
would the select switch be on the cruise control ?
i got MFSW and Highline but no cruise
Apr for me, possible change to REVO or GIAC in the new year (Not untill Ive seen what the cars doing from Logs / RR's with Apr)
Apr use Cruise. Can be retro fitted for around £199....
Why are you considering the change? Is it because you don't feel you can make the most of your HW mods with the APR map?
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^^^ He just gets bored easily :signLOL:
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Got REVO on my derv chuffed to bits with it :jumping:
:congrats: :congrats: So your pleased. Did you get a before and after dyno? Transforms the car doesn't it.:)
Yeah im chuffed to bits the seems alot smoother really surprises me how quick it now is.
Had the before and after runs
Before remap 162Bhp
After remap 191bhp :party:
So not bad for what is meant to be a 140
Not sure how acurate his dyno is though
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Don't look at the peak figures too much, its better to look at the difference between standard and remapped :happy2:
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Ah ok.
Nice result but bit out to start then! Thought yours was 170 std :ashamed:
Mine went through all the stages on those rollers so had good comparison.
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Nah 140 mate
Also gave a 40.2lbft increase in torque just fighting off the demons at the moment who are trying to convince me to get a Miltek TBE:evilgrin: Not that its going to give any power increase but apparently it makes it feel alot more free reving and look alot nicer.
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APR Stage 2+ on Pirelli GTI (supporting mods of downpipe, APR fuel pump and intercooler).
It is vicious if you open the taps, yet perfectly placid when you need to drive Miss Daisy.
Had Bluefin stage 1 before that, and no problems at all with that tune.
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Revo is to the UK as what APR is in the US.
Revo have all these cars running their software yet are unable to give advive on why some stage 2 plus cars from 2007 to 2009 models have the flat spot at 5200rpm :confused:
First they say change the DV, then they say its the valves springs that are weaker on 08+ models, but then once they are proven to be wrong as there are 2007 cars with that fault they just run off.
More people should run GIAC imo.
If you're that sure its REVO's fault then why don't u change to one of the other maps out there and see if it gives the same prob?
If it doesn't THEN you can have a go at REVO, and stick with that alternative map provider and be happy. I'm sure Regal/GIAC/APR would love to take care of you.
But at the moment your constant moaning about REVO not helping you is getting quite boring IMO!
/Rant over.
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Custom code stage 2 on the eos :smiley:
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Revo is to the UK as what APR is in the US.
Revo have all these cars running their software yet are unable to give advive on why some stage 2 plus cars from 2007 to 2009 models have the flat spot at 5200rpm :confused:
First they say change the DV, then they say its the valves springs that are weaker on 08+ models, but then once they are proven to be wrong as there are 2007 cars with that fault they just run off.
More people should run GIAC imo.
If you're that sure its REVO's fault then why don't u change to one of the other maps out there and see if it gives the same prob?
If it doesn't THEN you can have a go at REVO, and stick with that alternative map provider and be happy. I'm sure Regal/GIAC/APR would love to take care of you.
But at the moment your constant moaning about REVO not helping you is getting quite boring IMO!
/Rant over.
who said I blame revo?
Their aftercare is rubbish though. :grin:
One would think that it would be in revo's interest to have an idea why a quarter of the stage 2 plus cars I know of have all got this flat spot so we can get it sorted, instead of apparently not caring.
They claimed it was the valve springs on 08 plus cars, but cars from even early 07 have the same issue which thereotically rules that out, and now they are just silent on the issue which isnt helpful.
Plus it isnt much of a case of me boring you, but there will be members who havent got a map, who might be interested to know that they might go on to suffer this same flat spot, instead of it coming as a surprise to them as it did me. I have sung revos praise big time in the past, and now they have got to take the bad with the good.
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sorry mate but you're making it quite clear that you think REVO are the cause of this "flat spot" and that they're "hiding" something from the public.
sounds like you should be on VWVortex rather than a uk forum really!
just read the thread on SCN and one of the cars with a similar prob has a CC map. Now THAT i say is an interesting bit of info.
Also you sound like you're absolutely minted on the £££ front so no idea why you've still got a Seat when you're thinking of getting an Audi R8!!!
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sorry mate but you're making it quite clear that you think REVO are the cause of this "flat spot" and that they're "hiding" something from the public.
sounds like you should be on VWVortex rather than a uk forum really!
just read the thread on SCN and one of the cars with a similar prob has a CC map. Now THAT i say is an interesting bit of info.
we never hid the fact that there were other maps from other companies with the same flat spot. Its just the fact that first revo biffed us off saying to check the DV when they were fully aware of the 5200rpm flat spot, then after some more discussion they said change the valve springs. Now we have come to stage where we could very well rule out the valve springs being a issue so what next?
Obviously there is a common factor between these odd 10 stage 2 plus revo cars to have all the exact same issue, with cars ranging from 07 to 09 with varying mileage and if I was revo would want to know more about to advise customers. Its just simple good customer care, instead of not replying to emails etc.
Its funny how quickly people on here snipe about APR big time, but then as soon as I make some liberal comments about revo people get their backs up. If you had one of the cars with the flat spot you would want to know more also, so you could go about getting it fixed, and then share it with the other affected cars so they could get theirs sorted also
Im not saying its revos fault, but there is obviously something slightly different to the affected cars to those that arent.
So no im not blaming revo at all, but they could be more helpful :booty:
So because I can afford something more upmarket I shouldnt be driving a SEAT? :stupid:
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Anybody using Jabbasport software on the forum?
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it actually bemuses the hell out of me how a potential R8 owner would be driving a Seat at the mo anyway but hey ho life is full of surprises!!! tis certainly one impressive form of upgrade so go for it if you can I'd say. :happy2:
Well i think if you've done all the h/w chekcs you can think of that can cause the flat spot, and there's nowt left but the s/w, then logic would say try some different s/w then!
seems logical to me. If its causing u that much of an issue that u need to air it everyday, then rather than getting annoyed over i'd resolve it. eg change cars, change maps, revert it to its previous state when it didn't have a prob, whatever. If something doesn't do what I want it to do to a satisfactory level, I'd simply get something else that hopefully does.
Actually I'm not defending Revo at all. Revo can defend themselves. They've already stated their position - its not S/W related.
Maybe you need to do something along the lines of what JKM did for Illyun, which was to disect his engine checking loads of bits. There's a long old thread on here about it somewhere.
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Anybody using Jabbasport software on the forum?
don't think so. Spoke to Jams H before he left JS that they were looking for guinea pigs to develop their 2.0T FSI map with. But not heard much about it since then and it was a long while ago now.
You thinking of using them or already with them?
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it actually bemuses the hell out of me how a potential R8 owner would be driving a Seat at the mo anyway but hey ho life is full of surprises!!! tis certainly one impressive form of upgrade so go for it if you can I'd say. :happy2:
Well i think if you've done all the h/w chekcs you can think of that can cause the flat spot, and there's nowt left but the s/w, then logic would say try some different s/w then!
seems logical to me. If its causing u that much of an issue that u need to air it everyday, then rather than getting annoyed over i'd resolve it. eg change cars, change maps, revert it to its previous state when it didn't have a prob, whatever. If something doesn't do what I want it to do to a satisfactory level, I'd simply get something else that hopefully does.
Actually I'm not defending Revo at all. Revo can defend themselves. They've already stated their position - its not S/W related.
Maybe you need to do something along the lines of what JKM did for Illyun, which was to disect his engine checking loads of bits. There's a long old thread on here about it somewhere.
Well the way im going about is that Im going to give it till may to try and sort the car by dropping it off to JKM or APS at some point. If its not sorted by then, I will be 21 at which point I can insure group 20 cars at more reasonable premiums seeing as im a Londoner. The k1 is costing me £3400 as it is, and was only ever meant as a stop gap car, but I have fallen head over heels for it and am struggling to think of what to replace it with that will be suitable for the things I get up to.
Have read Illyun thread and he wasnt too impressed with revo either, BUT, in that instance I could see revos position as that was clearly a hardware fault. But with 10 stage 2 plus cars with all the same issue, it most likely is a hardware fault, but due to the amount of affected cars it is in their interest to try and figure out why its happening to keep customers happy and threads like this off the internet.
RE: Jabbasport.
There is a cupra over on SCN who is using them and their map is very good, just as quick as a revo car stage 1.
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you forget tho, Revo are MAPPERS, not h/w technical specialist. That's when you need people like AmD / APS / JKM and their dedicated know how of the 2.0T FSI motor to quickly distinguish which bit of H/W would most like to cause that a misfire.
£3400 a year to insure the K1 :surprised: you done a quote on the R8 then? I thought i was getting ripped off paying £1600 for a brand new STI at 25. Audi R8 at 21 years of age....fair play is all i can say.
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Anybody using Jabbasport software on the forum?
don't think so. Spoke to Jams H before he left JS that they were looking for guinea pigs to develop their 2.0T FSI map with. But not heard much about it since then and it was a long while ago now.
You thinking of using them or already with them?
I am fairly local to Jabbasport and use them for servicing ect, but I've not heard much about their TFSI maps on here.
I had an Ibiza Cupra 1.8T running one of their maps and never had any problems so thinking about using them again for my Octy TFSI.
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Poverty,
Thanks for that, will have a look on SCN
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you forget tho, Revo are MAPPERS, not h/w technical specialist. That's when you need people like AmD / APS / JKM and their dedicated know how of the 2.0T FSI motor to quickly distinguish which bit of H/W would most like to cause that a misfire.
£3400 a year to insure the K1 :surprised: you done a quote on the R8 then? I thought i was getting ripped off paying £1600 for a brand new STI at 25. Audi R8 at 21 years of age....fair play is all i can say.
I can appreciate that revo are mappers, but they are selling software that is potentially not compatable with every 2.0TFSI out there. I mean whats the chnaces of all the stage 2 plus cars having a hardware failure? If my car was the only one affected, or there were only 2 or 3 cars with the issue, I wouldnt be expecting any input from revo about it at all. But when its 10+?
R8 at 21 would be 3 grand, same for Evo x fq360. New M3 and lotus exige 2100, TT-RS 1800, K1 will drop to 1200.
Poverty,
Thanks for that, will have a look on SCN
Have a look in the jabbasport section. :happy2:
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I can only vote once and I have REVO and GIAC on my car :sad1:
REVO - ECU
GIAC - DSG TCU
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GIAC, never missed a beat in 20,000 miles. Stattler are tope lads with some big power ed30's
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Anybody using Jabbasport software on the forum?
don't think so. Spoke to Jams H before he left JS that they were looking for guinea pigs to develop their 2.0T FSI map with. But not heard much about it since then and it was a long while ago now.
You thinking of using them or already with them?
I am fairly local to Jabbasport and use them for servicing ect, but I've not heard much about their TFSI maps on here.
I had an Ibiza Cupra 1.8T running one of their maps and never had any problems so thinking about using them again for my Octy TFSI.
they are well commended when it comes to the 1.8T engines, and have built some huge output engines there. they are also very experienced with the likes of water meth as well
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who else has the shark performance then????
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^^^ He just gets bored easily :signLOL:
:evilgrin: To be honest last couple of days (since ITG coincidentally ;) ) Ive been verry happy with the car :driver: :evilgrin:
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hows has the adaption come along mike.
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And where is oettinger on that list?
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its on the bottom.......................................................now :happy2:
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hows has the adaption come along mike.
Been pulling like a train :) The noise on load isnt doin much for my MPG though :(
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like i said, ites like a mpg test. if you can here it your mpg is sh*te, lol.
pulling better than the dbilias now then?
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And where is oettinger on that list?
Isn't Oettinger owned by APR.
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And where is oettinger on that list?
Isn't Oettinger owned by APR.
Yup. Hence the Oettinger map is really an APR map in disguise these days!!
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^^^ He just gets bored easily :signLOL:
:evilgrin: To be honest last couple of days (since ITG coincidentally ;) ) Ive been verry happy with the car :driver: :evilgrin:
:notworthy:
So Dbilas v ITG hows it shaping up, worth it?
Should i start saving :popcornsoda:
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^^^ He just gets bored easily :signLOL:
:evilgrin: To be honest last couple of days (since ITG coincidentally ;) ) Ive been verry happy with the car :driver: :evilgrin:
:notworthy:
So Dbilas v ITG hows it shaping up, worth it?
Should i start saving :popcornsoda:
I wish I was paitient enough to wait and do logs / RR with the Dbilas. It feels certainly as good as (maybe placeabo but butt dyno thinks better) than the Dbilas. Im hoping Mark brings his Dbilas on the 13th so we can do back to back comparisons.
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Revo for me :notworthy:
also swapped my dbilas on Friday after a trip upto itg in Coventry on Friday morning,
very pleased with the results almost feels like I have been remapped again and the sound wooosh.. Love it
andy at itg had a good look at the dbilas and said the size of the filter they use is good for up to about 250hp ... Smaller than oem filter
It also weighed in at a heafty 5kg
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Mines not there- DNA tuning :smiley:
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its on the bottom.......................................................now :happy2:
Cheers
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Revo is to the UK as what APR is in the US.
Revo have all these cars running their software yet are unable to give advive on why some stage 2 plus cars from 2007 to 2009 models have the flat spot at 5200rpm :confused:
First they say change the DV, then they say its the valves springs that are weaker on 08+ models, but then once they are proven to be wrong as there are 2007 cars with that fault they just run off.
More people should run GIAC imo.
Mr poverty. I can understand your frustration with the probs with your car, and would just like to add my observation on this matter.
Revo seem to be brushing you aside because they are confident that its not there software that is causing the problems. It was exactly the same with Illyuns probs. they knew it wasn't there fault so they did not waste to much time trying to investigate and appease a unfounded angry customer.
I would bet all the tea China that the problem lye's elsewhere, Revo would have done enough of an investigation to make sure its not them then put the subject down.
I have spent a lot of time on Mk 5 forums over the last couple of year's and i dont think i would be exaggerating in saying that there maps are pretty much bullet proof.
I hope when you finally get round to solving your problem that you put up a unreserved apology on the forums :wink:
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Poverty - have you called REVO and had a chat with them? Whenever I have had any concerns or questions Kev and Carl have both been really helpfully :happy2:
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Poverty - have you called REVO and had a chat with them? Whenever I have had any concerns or questions Kev and Carl have both been really helpfully :happy2:
No not as yet, just a few emails from me and wayne.
Will get the valve springs checked on mine, then get a specialist to look at it and go from there to be honest. Will let the specialists communicate with revo if they feel that its necessary, as im no pro on these engines.
Topcat - I hope I get to the bottom of it sooner rather than later, and I hope it will be a favourable outcome for all. I will be the first to hold up my hands if I was barking up the wrong tree and will profoundly apologise if that was the case :happy2:
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Mine has a remap by Richter which was done through Towcester Wayside VW. Does that need adding to the list
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DNA Tuning for me too! :happy2:
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APS's map for me :)
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Remapped gtis are very popular then :laugh:
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Custom-Code for me in the new year, as a agent its the best option as i can just plug it in when i want :signLOL:
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we must be due an update on this about now
added Pdtuning to the list as well now
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I went with Shark Performance via the recent group buy,
The STS equipment hasn't been delivered yet though,
If i hadn't gone with Shark i would have chosen APR. simply because i had their software on my 1.8T and it was very good.
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I've got the giac map, the stage one map felt really good although the throttle response was a bit on off which I didn't like while town driving, although since upgrading the hardware to 2+ it has become very smooth, great map highly recommend !
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Jabbasport custom map for me, pulls better now :evilgrin:.
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Jabbasport custom map for me, pulls better now :evilgrin:.
what did you have before
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Jabbasport custom map for me, pulls better now :evilgrin:.
what did you have before
The car had the standard map before Jabba mapped it.
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pdtuning on mine :smiley:
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AMD stage 2 on mine.
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Bluefin for me! :driver:
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r-tech on mine brilliant
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How much is bluefin? What gains?
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I can only choose one chip, but i have bluefin for power and revo for DSG ....
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MRC Tuning for me :happy2:
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APR StgII for me :happy2:
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Anyone els running P-Torque?
Very good gains and very good service from Will :smiley:.
I had P-Torque stage 1 and 2 on the old Ibiza and it was one of he most powerfull mk4 Ibiza's on SCN :evilgrin:
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Revo2, did have Revo1 and I also have Revo DSG for K03 - very smooooth. Great driveability, am not chasing willy-waving bhp numbers. Am not going for stage 2+.
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blackcode .....cant fault em,,,,soot chucker has been transformed ....torque to die for :P
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Revo stage 1 for me at the moment, installed by PDT, same time as they did the Autotech pump.
Went for Revo map after much reading on this forum. Some of it useful and some way beyond my field of knowledge/interest really (EGT chat for example !!) and also as I have thoughts to going stage 2/2+ eventually.
Gotta say the car feels like I've swapped it for something a lot pokier.
Even the insurance hike gets forgotten when you open the taps. A mapped Ed30 Golf is a fine cure for winter blues..
BTW Sure the technical merits of Exhaust Gas Temps are very important to the technically minded on this forum but it was way beyond me.
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R-TECH faultless car trannsformed
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PD tuning stage 2 :happy2: