MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Andy-GTI on May 11, 2015, 04:42:05 pm
Hello,

Bit of a strange one. When coming to a stop the cars revs dip to around 450 and it feels like the cars going to stall, gives a little shudder then goes to tickover point. It doesn't do this everytime and appears more when braking abit harder. Other then that car seems fine.

The cars a 56plate GTI DSG.

Any ideas what it could be?
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Llew on May 11, 2015, 07:53:14 pm
Is it the same when engine hot and cold?
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Andy-GTI on May 11, 2015, 09:04:45 pm
Yea it appears to do it when cold or fully warmed up.

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Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Llew on May 12, 2015, 03:32:31 am
Could be clogged air filter
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Andy-GTI on May 13, 2015, 06:29:45 pm
filter is clean

Any more ideas?

 :happy2:
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: john87 on May 15, 2015, 09:58:26 am
I believe a symptom of a failing PCV valve can cause poor idling, possibly this could be on its' way out?
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: rich83 on May 15, 2015, 10:02:55 am
IMO it's a sign of the old mechatronics not playing ball. Only fix is to replace the unit.
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Andy-GTI on May 15, 2015, 04:30:28 pm
IMO it's a sign of the old mechatronics not playing ball. Only fix is to replace the unit.

I've done the PCV idle check by removing oil dip stick and car went nuts as expected so Im assuming PCV is fine but ill be changing regardless.

Rich83, have you got any experience with replacement mechatronics units? costs etc? Would this issue bring up a fault code?

Appreciate the help
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Llew on May 15, 2015, 08:49:55 pm
It could be number of reasons I wouldn't jump to mechatronics so soon ,it could
 Be  maf sensor that's where I would look next
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Andy-GTI on May 15, 2015, 09:17:39 pm
I agree I wouldn't be flinging any money at mech units untill I know 100% going to go for the simpler fixes first. The cars perfectly driveable at the moment as its barely noticeable most of the time.

I'll go with the PCV,  MAF then DSG reset/oil change.

Anyone else had this issue?

Also anyone had replaced/repairs mechatronics units out of warranty?

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Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: rich83 on May 15, 2015, 09:28:04 pm
Well mine does it sometimes and my car is in perfect mechanical condition. The only thing it can be is the mecha.  Day reset will help initially but the problem will stil persist.
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Llew on May 15, 2015, 11:54:12 pm
Also check the timing
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Andy-GTI on May 16, 2015, 08:59:16 am
Also check the timing

Timing as in cam timing? Could the belt possibly jump?
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Llew on May 16, 2015, 09:18:09 am
If you have vcds use it to scan  then check values and quantities to make sure everything is in spec
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Andy-GTI on May 16, 2015, 08:45:40 pm
If you have vcds use it to scan  then check values and quantities to make sure everything is in spec

Thanks. Ill be getting full health check when I go for a DSG reset so will make sure this gets covered.

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Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: robmcclel on May 20, 2015, 01:14:22 pm
I had this problem when my diverter valve failed except mine would actually stall sometimes, maybe try changing that its probably the cheapest one to try first?
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Andy-GTI on May 20, 2015, 10:51:10 pm
I'll be changing the DV as a maintenance item so this will be getting done soon as.  but I fail to see how it could effect the idle? Isn't it to re circ boost? (Excuse my lack of knowledge)

Thanks  :happy2:
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: robmcclel on May 26, 2015, 09:03:22 am
Yes it is to recirc the boost, not got a clue how it was affecting mine, I have the forge vacuum operated one and the vac hose had broke of so it wasn't opening when it should do and for some reason this was making it stall when I came to a stop.

I'll be changing the DV as a maintenance item so this will be getting done soon as.  but I fail to see how it could effect the idle? Isn't it to re circ boost? (Excuse my lack of knowledge)

Thanks  :happy2:
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Amir32 on June 24, 2015, 11:07:39 am
Is this sorted now? What was it?
Title: Re: GTI DSG nearly stalling when braking
Post by: Andy-GTI on July 04, 2015, 11:24:03 am
Hello,

Still no further forward. It may just be me but I don't notice it doing it much and the cars done at least 1000 miles in the last week or so.

It's due a service soon which I'm going to do a DSG oil/filter change along with a reset, if the stealers have any idea how to do one lol!!!

Will update thread once done. Car drives fine so am not jumping at it as fast as maybe I should, if it's the mechatronics unit, I want to be 100% sure before throwing that kind of cash about. Doesn't seem to be a vast amount of people who like to deal with these DSG boxes locally either