Post by: garrardrj on May 14, 2015, 07:12:52 pm
So whats your real world economy like ? Your urban mpg would be interesting too .
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on May 14, 2015, 09:15:16 pm
Seems 40+mpg is achievable if you know how to drive gently :happy2:
Seems to be similar figures to the MK5 GTI which suits me
Post by: garrardrj on May 14, 2015, 09:43:44 pm
You read all over the media about Porsche Ferrari Aston Martin Jaguar and the RS4 RS6 etc doing over 20mpg whereas you will be lucky to get 15mpg , now the MK7 has half of those engines (4 cylinders instead of 8) so i would expect around 30mpg if you drive it like it is intended .
Post by: Deako on May 15, 2015, 10:06:22 pm
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on May 15, 2015, 10:13:09 pm
30mpg on a steady run. 40mpg on an uber restrictive motorway jaunt. 18-25mpg when driving.
THIS.
I'd be happy with around 30mpg average. That's what my Ed30 managed on trip 2.
I'm only really bothered about decent mpg when cruising :smiley:
As I said earlier, from plenty of reading, they seem similar on fuel to mk5 GTI. 20ish around town or when "on it"
Post by: col on May 15, 2015, 10:20:15 pm
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on May 15, 2015, 10:26:37 pm
If you're concerned about mpg when driving a golf gti, you're doing it all wrong ...
I'm concerned about it when I'm following slow traffic on a busy motorway. I don't want to pay through the nose to sit in a golf whilst driving at the same pace as the diesel repmobiles. When I go out for a blast, as long as I'm getting around 20mpg I'm happy. . .
Post by: col on May 15, 2015, 10:41:06 pm
I don't like driving on motorways full stop though tbh. I more often than not try and find more driver friendly routes. I drove to Cardiff from Manchester the other evening, the only time I spent on a motorway was half an hour on the M56. Great drive and loved every minute, cost me a relative fortune but I couldn't have cared less ...
Post by: ub7rm on May 17, 2015, 09:19:44 am
To one person 20 mpg may be perfectly acceptable for the 5k miles they do a year. To another it would be madness. To one person 30 MPG might be acceptable for the 15k miles a year they do but to another not so much. You see the point - everyone has a budget and acceptance threshold - whats wrong with asking? Pretty stupid not to IMO.
Post by: garrardrj on May 17, 2015, 11:37:37 am
Have to admit it amuses me to see comments along the lines of you shouldn't be worried about MPG driving a car like 'this' (insert various warm / hot cars in here). I think most people just want to make a purchase with their eyes open - official mpg figures are known to be unreliable.
To one person 20 mpg may be perfectly acceptable for the 5k miles they do a year. To another it would be madness. To one person 30 MPG might be acceptable for the 15k miles a year they do but to another not so much. You see the point - everyone has a budget and acceptance threshold - whats wrong with asking? Pretty stupid not to IMO.
Exactly and mainly the reason i posted as the figures quoted are unrealisitic .
From my point of view i have a limited monthly income but quite alot of cash that was my pension lump sum i took 22 months ago and haven't touched it . The £30k odd purchase price is easily met but the running costs would come out of monthly budget , which wouldn't be many miles anyway but there is a balance to be had between performance and economy as far as £'s are concerned . Generally the newer the car the better the economy of the engine for the equivalent bhp . My ED30 never saw 34mpg however i drove it , but then some will say why am i bothered as i only do about 3000 miles a year .... Reason is that i have been a saver for 35 years of my 52 , it is difficult to start spending it :rolleye:
Post by: col on May 17, 2015, 12:46:39 pm
Post by: ub7rm on May 17, 2015, 01:29:45 pm
I drive an S4 13k miles a year - whats your thoughts on that?!
I think 'decent' mpg is a relative value - but one you have to ask the question 'what MPG can I get' before we can all make our decisions based on expected mileage and how much one is prepared to spend on fuel.
Post by: col on May 17, 2015, 02:51:23 pm
I just think it's a bit like shopping in expensive stores. If you have to ask for the price, then you probably can't afford it ...
Maybe we should both live with the fact we amuse each other?
Post by: tony_danza on May 17, 2015, 07:49:25 pm
http://www.bmwblog.com/2015/04/22/bmw-1m-the-ultimatecommuter-car/
Post by: rich83 on May 17, 2015, 07:55:03 pm
Drive it. Enjoy it. There's a thinly veiled message in this great story.
http://www.bmwblog.com/2015/04/22/bmw-1m-the-ultimatecommuter-car/
I didnt read it all but i get the gist and 100% agree. If I could afford a V10 R8 or a GT4 then I would use it as a daily no problem.
My ED30 pails into car legend insignificance compared to the 1M but its done 75,000m under my ownership.
Cars are for driving. Dont worry about the MPG, just drive it and fill it back up again... and if that as much as crosses your mind as being a problem then you should get a 1.4tdi bluemotion polo. (or a push bike) :smiley:
Post by: col on May 17, 2015, 08:52:57 pm
My point about not driving 15k miles in a GTI was aimed at those who worry about their mpg. I looked at mine earlier and my average is 28. I was surprised it was even that much tbh ...
Post by: tony_danza on May 17, 2015, 09:04:45 pm
This is an interesting read, loads of porkies in the claimed vs true MPG world.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2794886/the-great-miles-gallon-car-firms-cost-hundreds-year-using-crafty-tricks-bump-fuel-economy-figures.html
Post by: ub7rm on May 17, 2015, 09:08:18 pm
My point is that its condescending to suggest that if you consider MPG then you shouldn't be driving a GTI / whatever. Once you know that and you've bought the car then indeed fill drive enjoy repeat - but you'd be foolish to not consider the cost of ownership when making the purchase decision. If you knew you would only get say (extreme) 1 mpg from a family hatchback / estate or whatever then you would maybe think twice.
I certainly researched the ownership costs of my GTI, the S3 that followed it and the S4 that followed that but I've never driven any of them with MPG as a thought - clearly they are not cars built to be the most efficient available in terms of fuel usage - but I wanted to make sure I wasn't buying a millstone round my neck first. I like having nice cars, but I certainly wouldn't sacrifice any aspect of my lifestyle to 'support' them. I guess others see things differently and accept Col's point though - different strokes for different folks.
Post by: tony_danza on May 17, 2015, 09:18:00 pm
Post by: col on May 17, 2015, 09:25:52 pm
I'm sorry if I appeared condescending ub7rm, that wasn't my intention
Post by: ub7rm on May 17, 2015, 09:33:04 pm
Post by: GTI5 on May 23, 2015, 04:47:36 pm
Mpg difference between a petrol or diesel is a small % of total ownership costs once you factor in depreciation/monthly lease payments where applicable.
Post by: Tamiyoman on June 29, 2015, 05:25:24 pm
Urban driving 30-60mph limits 23-27mpg
Dual carriageway/Motorway steady 70mph cruise 37-38mpg
Dual carriageway/Autobahn Fast cruise (90mph) 32-34mpg
Autobahn 120mph cruise 25mpg
Post by: AMV on August 08, 2015, 02:26:37 pm
Post by: john87 on August 24, 2015, 12:35:55 pm
I bought an R32 knowing it would sound good, and have plenty overtaking ability.. but I can also achieve 33-35mpg when on the motorway. We can't drive 'balls to the wind' everywhere :grin: